@berean

I agree with you.

They only see one part of the story.

@Lightenup

Danny Dabbs,

Nice presentation to prove that before refers to “time” not importance.

LU

That’s right, but they simply can’t accept it because it goes against their doctrine.
Very sad.

@genebalthrop

Danny……the word “before”, Used there, meant Jesus was “greater” in importance then Abraham was.

That’s not true.
The word “before” in John 8:58 is Strong’s Greek: 4250. πρίν (prin) — 13 Occurrences

Matthew 1:18 Adv
GRK: τῷ Ἰωσήφ πρὶν ἢ συνελθεῖν
NAS: to Joseph, before they came together
KJV: to Joseph, before they
INT: t…[Read more]

Thanks, LU

@genebalthrop

There is not a single scripture that shows any activity of him until after his birth on this earth.

Gene, you are wrong.
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.”
Before Abraham was (past tense), Jesus is (present tense). Jesus was claiming pre-existence.
Notice Jesus didn’t say, “Tr…[Read more]

@t8

I’m asking you to please hear me out.

There is a freemasonic antichristian conspiracy even in the church.
The freemasons want to destroy the church with their Y teachings.
They know that we need BOTH the Father and His Son for salvation. John 17:3!!!
So they have found ways to separate them.
For example they love to attack the only true b…[Read more]

@edj

PS Danny

Notice how I didn’t say he was lying? – as you do not like this wording

That’s fine, because maybe he is just deceived.

God bless,

Danny

@edj

Good Job Danny!

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me,
he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and
WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.” (John 14:23)

Who is the “WE” ? Simple…

1 The Spirit of God – God’s HolySpirit himself
…………….and
2 The Spirit of Christ – Spirit of the Son

“So then they that…

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@genebalthrop

Gene, No one denies the spirit of God the Father.
But Jesus himself has a spirit too – the spirit of Christ.
See Galatians 4:6!
We need BOTH. See John 14:23!

God bless,

Danny

@edj

Hi Danny,

They think:
The “spirit of Christ” is the “spirit of God” instead of the spirit of the son.
It is sad to see people stray far away from what the bible actually teaches!

Hi Ed J,
I agree with you wholeheartedly there.
Yes, Galatians 4:6 is very clear:
“Because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying…[Read more]

@Jodi

Jodi, there is no spirit of Christ without Christ.
The Spirit of Christ was in the prophets of old (1 Peter 1:11).
So again it is very clear that there is no spirit of Christ without Christ.

God bless,

Danny

@Jodi

Hi Jodi,

We read that the Spirit of Christ was in the prophets of old (1 Peter 1:11).
This proves that Christ existed at that time, prior to His human existence.

@Jodi

Hi Jodi, thanks for your reply.
Well the Bible clearly says that we have the spirit of Jesus Christ.
Not just the spirit of God the Father.
Galatians 4:6 “Because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying out, “Abba! Father!”
As a matter of fact, we have BOTH the spirit of the Father and of His Son.
John 14:…[Read more]

@genebalthrop

If Jesus Christ is just a man, why did Paul write, “I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live; yet not I, BUT CHRIST LIVES IN ME (Gal. 2:20)?”
How can a mere man live in Paul and the rest of the New Testament believers all at once without also being God?

@Jodi

If Jesus Christ is just a man, why did Paul write, “I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live; yet not I, BUT CHRIST LIVES IN ME (Gal. 2:20)?”
How can a mere man live in Paul and the rest of the New Testament believers all at once without also being God?

@Jodi

Hi Jodi, Who came in the flesh?

words or Jesus Christ?

Jesus came in the flesh and “is” still coming in the flesh today. Christ in you the hope of glory (Col 1:27).

1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;

John uses the perfect tense here in Greek,…[Read more]

@Jodi

Hi Jodi, The Word in John 1 is Jesus Christ.

“The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.” John 1:14

God bless,

Danny

@t8

Here is LU’s post to you:

@Proclaimer

Welcome back, I hope you had a nice break.

I’m pasting an unanswered post of mine to you, asked originally on January 9th or thereabouts.

Hebrews 1

O Lord,

You laid the foundations of the earth,

and the heavens are the work of Your hands.

11They will perish, but You remain;

they will all wear o…[Read more]

@genebalthrop

Gene, you always say Jesus was a man.
Well, I agree. Jesus was a man here on earth.
He was not a ghost with a human shell.
John 1:14 “The Word became flesh – man
What is your point?

God bless,

Danny

@edj

badmouthing? Hypocrite!
You called me twice a liar.
You said stop the lying!
I did not lie.
I was fair to you. I said that there are biblical scholars on both sides.
But you insisted and provoked me. Only you would know the truth.
You are not fair.