Rev. 13:8 And all the dwell upon the earth adored him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb, which was slain from the beginning of the world.

Jodi, read and reflect:

WHICH WAS SLAIN FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD. Tell me if “THE WORD” Jesus TO BE, the Son of Man TO BE, as a spirit,

was slain like a lamb from the…[Read more]

1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

BY WHOM ALSO HE MADE THE WORLD.

Jody

Tell me If God made the world by “THE WORD” Jesus TO BE, the Son of Man TO <…[Read more]

You: learn to see Jesus as a fellow human being, as a son of man from the loins of,  (King DAVID) JUST AS HE SAID HE WAS.

There’s no doubt that you believe that Jesus was A SON OF MAN.

Now scriptures are more than clear that Jesus is also THE SON OF GOD.

John1:34 And I saw, and I gave testimony, that this is the Son of God.

Luke1:35 And…[Read more]

Carmel…….You need to make a word study on the word “before”  in scriptures it can have nothing to do with a persons date of berth.

Gene,

John was born BEFORE JESUS!

The word “BEFORE ” HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A PERSON BIRTH

in John 1:30  This is he, of whom I said: After me there cometh a man, who is preferred before me: because he was before me…[Read more]

You: 10 And: THOU IN THE BEGINNING, O LORD, DIDST FOUND THE EARTH; AND THE WORKS OF THY HANDS ARE THE HEAVENS.

This is speaking of YHWH, as obvious because we have another passages that tells us that YHWH gives the works of His hands over to the Son of Man

Jodi  the above scriptures are not declaring that God  gave His work of His hand over t…[Read more]

Carmel Jesus said himself referring to words given in the OT, that MEN are called gods, go read Psalm 82, Isaiah 61, and John 10 and then get back to me about how it is that Jesus is being called a god by Paul in Hebrews.

psalm 82
A psalm for Asaph.
1  God hath stood in the congregation of gods: and being in the midst of them he judgeth go…[Read more]

You: Jesus was sent as you say, so by saying Jesus was sent are you speaking of Jesus, the Son of Man being sent as he said after having the Spirit upon him and being anointed as Luke 4 says? Or are you changing it?

John1:33 And I knew him not;

BUT HE WHO SENT ME  to baptize with water, said to me: He upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit…[Read more]

Hebrews 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time:

Sit on my right hand, until

I MAKE THY ENEMIES THY FOOTSTOOLS.

Jodi, WHO IS THE SERVANT IN THE ABOVE?

Peace and love in Jesus Christ

1 “Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations.

Hebrews 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time:

Sit on my right hand, until

I MAKE THY ENEMIES THY FOOTSTOOLS.

Jodi, WHO IS THE SERVANT IN THE ABOVE?

Peace and love in Jesus Chri…[Read more]

Hebrews 5:9 And BEING MADE perfect, he BECAME the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

John4:34 Jesus saith to them: My meat is to do the will of him that sent me,

THAT I MAY PERFECT HIS WORK.

Jodi,

What is the difference between the above scriptures?

Jesus being made perfect in Hebrews 5:9 ( declaration by Paul)…[Read more]

Jodi you said: This passage is PROOF that Jesus didn’t pre-exist as the Creator of heaven and earth.

Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved justice, and hated iniquity: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above t…[Read more]

God created every thing through the channel of an act, for his purpose,

IN the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

From the above is quite clear that there was a BEGINNING ENTITY. This beginning entity was definitely the first ever creature ever created. According to the above verse of scripture, within this…[Read more]

……He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Jody,

Reflect, In the above, God made a reference to Jesus Christ, THE WORD MADE FLESH, in the words:

AND TO YOUR SEED. Which is clear enough that Abraham SEED contained “THE WORD” Jesus to be, the Son of Man, the eternal life SOURCE, which is e…[Read more]

Philippians 2:6 Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men, and in habit found as a man.

Gene you said:

When it says he existed in the “form” of God, it should read figuratively like this, “he being, or existing with the “nature…[Read more]

Gene you said:

You preach a different JESUS, different from his brothers and sisters, different FROM the rest of humanity.

Philippians 2:Who being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Jesus in the above PREEXISTED IN THE FORM OF GOD, and also He would not be a robber to consider Himself EQUAL TO GOD.

ORDINARY HUMAN…[Read more]

YOU PREEXISTENERS move or try your best to “SEPERATE” Jesus from the rest of his brothers and sister, as his HUMAN EXISTENCE and MAKE UP IS CONCERENED, something Jesus sure did not do. You preach a different JESUS, different from his brothers and sisters, different FROM the rest of humanity . Your Jesus is not the Jesus of scripture. You eff…[Read more]

Hi carmel,

Private interpretations with no attempt to find scriptural support for your fanciful notions.

gnosticism

Nick,

All what I wrote are scripturally supported!

Just pick one verse which in your opinion is not scriptural and I will load you with scriptures!

I am waiting !

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Hi Carmel,

You say that the WORD is definitely Jesus.

Jesus was conceived and born of Mary yet you say he was in the beginning with God.

YES NICK, JESUS, IS “THE WORD”  MADE FLESH HENCE , HE HAD TO BE BORN IN FLESH NO?

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. Heb 13.8

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ, yesterday, and today; and the…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

The Holy Spirit that lived in Jesus from the Jordan spoke through him.

Nick,

Your soul is talking NOT YOU.

Your soul is the voice, and you are the word spoken

The Holy Ghost, not the Holy Spirit,  was Jesus’soul.

Luke 23:46 And Jesus crying out with a loud voice, said: Father, into thy hands I commend MY SPIRIT. And s…[Read more]

It’s all laid out clearly in scripture Carmel,

Yes for sure, and that’s what I, with the help of the Holy Spirit, hence with GOD’S WISDOM make you aware of what you cannot see with HUMAN WISDOM.

Jodi, you said:

Christ came to us not down from heaven……

Then you also produced immediately following the scripture hereunder!

John 6:I…[Read more]