carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
NO, he had to grow and learn,
Luke 2:49And he said to them: How is it that you sought me? did you not know, that I must be about my father’s business?
Jodi the above is a statement by Jesus at the age of TWELVE.
Did Jesus refer to his father David’s business or toHIS FATHER GOD’S BUSINESS?
JUST TO REMIND YOU:
According to your CORRUPTED U…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
So the words “a” would be more appropriate.
Gene,
With regards to the above, as I said in the other post, I rely on the scriptures KJV. and DRB versions.
YOU: How should we see him?, as a human being, a very important human, or something else?
Now to Jesus’ UNIQUE extraordinary humanity, OUT OF THE WORLD. Despite a son of David. Well cle…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Were there giants on the Earth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
CARMEL…..Then why did GOD SAY, “look the man, “has become”, as we are to “know” Good and Evil”. WHEN HE SAID “HAS BECOME”, didn’t that mean he wasn’t that way before.
Gene,
Mozart was a genius in music, but definitely, he was ignorant of electronics.
Adam was the most SANCTIFIED creature when he was created, and no other creatures were crea…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
We do all for the sake of
THE LOVE and
THE TRUTH, JESUS. Especially for the BLIND.
Thanks for the encouragement and support.
Peace and Love in Jesus Christ.
carmel replied to the topic Were there giants on the Earth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Adam and Eve were ignorant, and all children born in the world are also born ignorant and must learn.
Jodi,
Read scripture hereunder, and then ask yourself:
Was Adam ignorant when he was created?
Was Eve ignorant when she was built?
Genesis 1:26 And he said: Let us make man
TO OUR IMAGE AND LIKENESS: and let him have DOMINION over the fishes…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Were there giants on the Earth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
TC, and ALL.
Jesus in the above was talking about God’s kingdom. He analogously mentioned Noah and Lot events simply to make us aware that ON THAT DAY when the Son of Man glorify and rule the ENTIRE world it would happen the same thing,
BUT SP…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Were there giants on the Earth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Jodi,and ALL
Jodi ,you said:
Sin doesn’t come from outside wicked rebel spirits possessing your mind, influencing your mind.
Then you brought up the scriptures hereunder,
Mark 7:20 And he said,That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, m…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Go look up Strongs H1247 and you will see how that scripture was Changed to read “the” using a definet article there, instead of the actual wording and the form of the fourth is “like” (a) son of God
Gene, Hereunder are the most common versions ofDaniel 3:25
I personally trust ONLY KJV, and DRB, and decide between them. Now in this particular…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Rev 22:16…. I Jesus have sent my angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the “root” and “offspring” of David, and the bright and morning star.
Rev.22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.
Gene,
You said: your burden of proof is to explain what or who was he before his berth on this ear…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
So you are in complete denial of what John related to, when he said that those that deny JESUS HAS CAME IN THE FLESH ARE ANTICHRIST’S, do you not deny that JESUS came into his existence of life “at the time” his berth on “this” earth” ,
JESUS HAS CAME IN THE FLESH
Gene,
Why did John EMPHATICALLY made it clear that those……..JE…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Me: “at this point the Spirit started to lead Him” would you say that when he stayed behind in the temple, at the age of 13 teen, talking with scrips and priest that He wasn’t being led of the Spirit of God to do that? or did He do this on His owe? yes or no
Anthony,
Jesus was TWELVE when He deliberately remained in the temple. Or more appropr…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
CARMEL…..So to you Jesus did not grow, in grace , and knowledge, He already was?
Gene,
As far as scripture is concerned, what you are referring to is only a reference to Jesus when He was only TWELVE.
Jesus started His mission at the age of thirty, AT THAT AGE
HE WAS PERFECT, HE STOPPED GROWING IN GRACE, AND KNOWLEDGE.
The fact that HE WAS…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
You: In order for Jesus to be the Lamb of God he had to be perfected first, of which occurred AFTER John spoke those words.
Jesus was in fact
NOT yet the Lamb of God when John CALLED Jesus the Lamb of God, he was referencing him according to who he is according to his future when he would be perfected.
Jodi, with every respect, you ar…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
YOU: This much is true, after the baptism John preached, God ANOINTED Jesus of Nazareth and by such he could be called THE ANOINTED (the Christos) Christ.
Jodi read carefully and discern the truth:
Matthew 3:14 But John stayed him, saying: I OUGHT TO BE BAPTIZED BY THEE, and COMEST THOU TO ME?
As you can read, JOHN RECOGNIZED JESUS BEFORE HE…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
In Matthew, Jesus is not called the Son of God until he is tempted in the wilderness, which was just after the Spirit descended upon him and God said “This is my beloved Son
Jodi read carefully and discern the truth:
Matthew 3:14 But John stayed him, saying: I OUGHT TO BE BAPTIZED BY THEE, and COMEST THOU TO ME?
Jodi as you can read, JO…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Jodi here are the scriptures again, which confirm that Jesus was not an ordinary man born in the same way ordinary men are born.
But allow me to add this scripture again:
John3:13 And no man hath ascended into heaven,
BUT HE THAT DESCENDED FROM HEAVEN.
The Son of man WHO IS IN HEAVEN.
Who of the ordinary men EVER BE ON EARTH AND AT THE SAME…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man was of the earth, EARTHLY, the second man, from heaven, HEAVENLY.
ME: In 1 Corinthians 15 Paul is speaking about the resurrection of the dead of which Jesus the anointed, the son of David who God had begotten with His Spirit, is the first of many brethren of.
WRONG Jodi, Paul in the above referred to
THE FIRS…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Jesus was not born some half breed human god, he was born the seed of David SET APART as the one who God would perfect and make into our source for eternal salvation.
Jodi,
Jesus is not as you said:
half breed human god.
Jesus was born FULLY GOD, IN THE HOLY GHOST, Jesus’ SOUL, THE FACT THAT JESUS BAPTIZES WITH THE HOLY GHOST.
and FULLY MAN…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God,
THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE:
Jody, Tell me, if “THE WORD” Jesus TO BE, the Son of Man TO BE, as a spirit, was
THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE: HOW ON EARTH HE DID NOT PRE-EXIST.
Now the first ever creature was Lucifer, THE BEGINNING, THE LIGHT BRINGER, THE MORNING STAR, THE…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
John 8:25 They said therefore to him: Who art thou? Jesus said to them: The beginning, who also speak unto you.
Jody, read and reflect:
THE BEGINNING, WHO ALSO SPEAK TO YOU. Tell me if “THE WORD” Jesus TO BE, the Son of Man TO BE, as a spirit, was
THE BEGINNING. HOW ON EARTH HE DID NOT PRE-EXIST.
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
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