Gene

YOU
Berean……you changed the wording of the text again,  that’s no allowed,  I am quoting from the original king James ,  are you?
REV 1:1….”The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which “GOD” gave unto him, to shew unto “HIS” servants things which must shortly come to pass; and “He” sent and “signified” it by his “angel” (or messenger) unto “H…[Read more]

Gene

GOD GAVE THE REVELATION ….. TO JESUS….. SIGNIFIED BY HIS ANGEL…. TO HIS SERVANT JOHN…..TO SHOW UNTO HIS SERVANTS(OF THE CHURCHS)

ARE WE OK ?

YES ?
We couldn’t call 2000 years “shortly” nor at ‘Hand” could we?.
2000 YEARS !!!

Peter said

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand ye…[Read more]

Jodi

You

Jesus of Nazareth was born of the “divine power” when he was around 30 years old at the river Jordan.

Me

Show me a verse that shows this

Thank’s

Gene

You

What messenger did Jesus send to testify those thing he saw in the churches?

ME

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus…[Read more]

Gene

Answer my question from my last post and I’ll listen to you then …..

For You, WHO IS the “he” of v.1 chap.22?

Thanks you

Nothing to do with the text considered …. You are drowned in your own considerations ….
Tell me at least one thing:
Who is for you the “he” of verse 1 of chapter 22?
thank you
I’m going to bed
10:10 p.m. (in France)

What I told you proves that there are 4 main persons in what we are studying ….

Tell me what is wrong

No Gene, you have to examine the text itself; and the text does not say what you say;

Revelation 22:1 Say

And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

“me” is John  …… are you OK Gene ?

Now who is “he” ????

Well, chapter 22 follows directly from Chapter 21
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IN REVELATION 1:1

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

HERE JOHN IS NOT SHOWN AS A  MESSENGER BUT A “SERVANt” in greek : “DOULO” see below

IN CHAPTER 22   JESUS CHRIST IS SHOWN AS:

” THE LA…[Read more]

Although I have already given you all the proof, you still believe that what I wrote is wrong …
Well do what you want ….
Anyway, I know you are greatly wrong on this subject as in many others.

Gene, …. Please read #867602

Gene

In this Chapter 22, it is absolutely not
question of the Son of God being called anything else: Jesus Christ or Jesus, Lord Jesus, the Lamb, or the Alpha and the Omega. He is not called “a messenger” or “an angel”.
On the contrary, he is the one who sent his angel (v.16 , who is also the angel of God the Father v.6) You can check….

Read…[Read more]

Amen

Thank you God for giving us your own BEGOTTEN only Son from Heaven and WHO WAS MADE FLESH like us.

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
And being found in fashion as a man, he…[Read more]

Gene

You

“Jesus was the messenger, giving John the Message God gave him, John was the messenger caring that message to the Churches. Who were the servants of God the Father.  Just as Jesus and John also was.”

Me

Jesus was the messenger….

John was the Messenger….

only you here believe that…

WHAT the Bible Say?

Revelation 22:16

I…[Read more]

Gene
You are missing the point of truth ….
You say he doesn’t have an angel …
but a messenger and that it is Jesus
Well reread this verse 16 of chapter 22

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

And so we have

Revelation of…[Read more]

Hey ho Gene
Questions must be answered …. thank’s

Why then would Paul have written this: ???

Hebrews 1: 6 And again, when he brought the firstborn into the world, he said, And all the angels of God worship him.

And why the Magi from the East bowed down and worshiped the baby Jesus:?????
And when they were come into the house, they saw the…[Read more]

    Hallelujah

Jesus used his divine power not for himself (to relieve his appetite in the desert, for example) but according to the will of God and for his glory and for the good of mankind.

Gene

Why then would Paul have written this: ???

Hebrews 1: 6 And again, when he brought the firstborn into the world, he said, And all the angels of God worship him.

And why the Magi from the East bowed down and worshiped the baby Jesus:?????
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down,…[Read more]

Jésus said

I and my Father are ONE

Hebrews 1

And again, when he(God) bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.