Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2013,11:47)I always understood “after” to be referring to Numbers 13:33 – which says the offspring of the Nephilim were STILL around – even after the flood.There are SO many questions, but like t8 said, we are obviously not meant to know it all.Even angels long to look into some of these things.  (1 Peter 1:12)Jesus,…[Read more]

….”But it is true that many who are inwardly sure about God fear to assert such feelings of certainty because of the multiplicity and cleverness of those who assemble objections and magnify difficulties about believing in God. It requires no great depth of intellect to pick flaws, ask questions, or raise objections. But it does require…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2013,11:54)Quote (Colter @ Mar. 12 2013,05:15)The OT books, which date to the Babylonian captivity period…………..Hey Colter,I thought about you today while doing my daily Bible reading.Joshua 6:25Yet Joshua spared Rahab the prostitute, her father’s family, and all who belonged to her. She lives in Israel to this v…[Read more]

It all makes more since if you consider the possibility that the Adam and Eve story is from the surviving fragments of a much older story relating to the events of two incarnate celestial beings who arrived on a previously populated earth as part of a redemption mission only to fail due to a flank attack by “the prince of this world” who was much…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,17:10)Quote (Colter @ Mar. 12 2013,02:17)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,06:41)Quote (Colter @ Mar. 12 2013,00:42)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,05:18)Quote Paul wasn't taught by Jesus, he came later. John saw Jesus as Michael after Jesus returned to heaven. 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,06:41)Quote (Colter @ Mar. 12 2013,00:42)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,05:18)Quote Paul wasn't taught by Jesus, he came later. John saw Jesus as Michael after Jesus returned to heaven. 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,8 And…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,05:20)Quote (Colter @ Mar. 11 2013,23:04)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,03:48)Quote (charity @ Mar. 11 2013,20:40)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,01:11)Quote (charity @ Mar. 10 2013,16:07)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2013,15:15)STUQuote OK, I'll have to take it that you believe in the god that appears in both the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,05:18)Quote Paul wasn't taught by Jesus, he came later. John saw Jesus as Michael after Jesus returned to heaven. 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.9 And the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,03:48)Quote (charity @ Mar. 11 2013,20:40)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,01:11)Quote (charity @ Mar. 10 2013,16:07)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2013,15:15)STUQuote OK, I'll have to take it that you believe in the god that appears in both the Jewish bible and the New Testament, but not the one that appears in the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,03:52)Quote (Colter @ Mar. 11 2013,21:53)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,01:05)Quote (Colter @ Mar. 11 2013,19:15)The spirit Son, who incarnate as the duel origin being as Jesus, is the creator of our local universe and this world.Jesus “Christ Michael” is now sovereign Lord of this world.His spirit is among us as…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 11 2013,16:06)Hi Mike and all,I would like to move on now. What I would like to look at is:  What is Jesus Now?  i.e. AFTER the resurrection. So I will start up a new thread, perhaps?Good Idea, now that Jesus is a God Jr, with all power and authority in heaven and on earth given to him, did the original God retire?Before J…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2013,01:05)Quote (Colter @ Mar. 11 2013,19:15)The spirit Son, who incarnate as the duel origin being as Jesus, is the creator of our local universe and this world.Jesus “Christ Michael” is now sovereign Lord of this world.His spirit is among us as he poured it out upon all flesh.We now have the spirit of the Father and…[Read more]

The spirit Son, who incarnate as the duel origin being as Jesus, is the creator of our local universe and this world.Jesus “Christ Michael” is now sovereign Lord of this world.His spirit is among us as he poured it out upon all flesh.We now have the spirit of the Father and the Son available to us.Caino

……and the world that a fully grown Adam and Eve incarnate on had already fallen, for the beast was already hear and working against the will of the Father. Flocks, fields, tithes to a religious order? How much work for food does a family need to do living in a garden paradice? The world was very populated by the time of A & E's arrivalGenesis,…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ Mar. 08 2013,18:20)t8If You Where present on the day they voted for Jesus who would you have to vote to death? Jesus or Barabbas?should Jesus Have been able to finish What he was sayingYesNOIs it right, That the six commandment be used as a punishment for a thief?Yesno!Jesus allowed himself to be killed.The religious authorities…[Read more]

Quote (Guncher @ Nov. 29 2012,00:18)Today I asked some fellow believers about eternal torment for unbelieversI posed a hypothetical story. A king has a subject who steals a bowl of fruit from him, so as a punishment , he has them burned with a hot iron for the rest of their livesMy friends thought that that was terrible and asked where the king…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 26 2012,23:57)Quote (Colter @ Nov. 26 2012,23:41)Some of what is being discussed here, the easy pickings of the Atheist faith, is religions failure to update itself. Petrifying the Bible into “the word of God” is the making of a false idol. The books that comprise the Bible are simply mans biased, imperfect narrative about the…[Read more]

Some of what is being discussed here, the easy pickings of the Atheist faith, is religions failure to update itself. Petrifying the Bible into “the word of God” is the making of a false idol. The books that comprise the Bible are simply mans biased, imperfect narrative about the “doings” of the “word of God”, it's not the word of God itself and…[Read more]

The phrase “in the beginning” is a poetic, philosophical concession. God had no beginning, neither did The Son or the Creator Son, Jesus. They are ancestral to, but eternal-with, God the Father.Colter

Cain met his wife in the land of Nod, amoung the “Nodites”.Adam and Eve arrived on an evolved, preveously populated earth.The “beast” had already fallen along with the world; he was already evil and knew Gods will for the pair.Death or the loss of imortality came to Adam and Eve specifically, not to the world. Death and or “translation” is natural.Colter