What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh?

[GeneBalthrop]

Wakeup………Latter years or days all fall into the Last Half of God Seven thousand year plan for this present creation. and all of the Later part started after the mid time period, is the way i understand it brother. After Jesus time on this earth started all the Latter days and from then on we have been living in the last days, Just as after Wednesday we are in the latter days of the week. IMO

peace and love to you and yours…………………………………gene

[Wakeup]

Geneb.

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the ***latter years*** thou shalt come ***into the land that is brought back from the sword***, and is ***gathered out of many people***, against ***the mountains of Israel***, **which have been always waste**: **but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall
***dwell safely all of them***.
(THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED YET).

1.In the latter years.

2.The land that is brought *BACK FROM THE SWORD*.
(a land in peace).

3.Gathered out of many people. (the jews brought back)
and many gentiles converted into the kingdom.(paradise to
the flesh). The kingdom of Christ,and his saints.

4.Gog will come against this land of peace; brought back out
of many nations.(in the latter years).

5.They shall dwell safely.*This has not yet happened*.
There never was peace ever.
This will be the thousand year REST.

6.The war of gog and magog will be in the valLey of
HAMONGOG. *NOT THE VALLEY OF JEHOSAPHAT*,OR
HINOM,OR TOPHET.(GOD WILL DESTROY THEM. *NOT
CHRIST*).

7.Armageddon will be fought in the valley of HINOM.
(CHRIST WILL DESTROY THEM).

8. The war of gog and magog will be in the *latter years*.
not in the last day,which is **armageddon**.

9.The valley of *HAMONGOG* IS *NOT* THE VALLEY OF
*JEHOSAPHAT* WHICH ALSO IS HINOM.

wakeup.

[GeneBalthrop]

Wakeup…….You getting Mixed up , the last day is in the Latter years, it is the Last day of those latter years. Latter years in a time reference, means those days after the Mid point of the 7000 years plan of God.  IMO , Another point i would like to make to you is you are equating the Jews as ISRAEL, and while they are one out of thirteen tribes of Israel, they in no way represent all of Israel. When God gathers Israel from the nations it will not just be the Jews. In fact if you care to you can look in scripture and find the Kingdom of Israel at war with the Kingdom of Judah. Israel was divided into two different Nations after King Solomon.

I believe the war of Gog and Magog does not take place until at the end of the thousand year rule of Jesus and the Saints, when Satan is released for the bottomless pit and goes out to deceives the nations and brings them to battle against  Jesus and the Saints, who have withdrawn to Jerusalem , and fire comes down from heaven and destroy's  them all and it shall take seven years to depose of all the bodies.  I disagree with your view, the war of Gog and Magog is not the battle of Armageddon, i believe it is .  

There is a reason for it to take place after the Millennial  regin of Jesus and the saints, and that is , it demenstrated that even though all the world is taught about God and his word by Jesus and the Saints, and that evil is completely removed from the earth. Those people who were taught and instructed by the Saints and Jesus will turn on them as soon as Satan and his evil influence is allowed to influence them. What does all this Prove, a very simple point, and that is that unless you have the SPIRIT of GOD “IN” YOU, We cannot continue to maintain  righteous Character, even if a person was never been exposed to evil before, and were living in a completely righteous environment , they or we could not “maintain” it, without God's SPIRIT abiding or remaining in us or them , Just as it does in Jesus and the Saints, who will maintain there faith and trust in God even when the whole world turns against them. That is the whole Point that the Millennial time period proves.  It makes clear that without the SPIRIT of GOD in a Person, no one can “maintain” righteousness. Another words we must all be KEPT right by God the FATHERS SPIRIT itself.

That is why it say the LORD BLESS YOU “and” KEEP YOU IMO

peace and love to you and yours…………………………………….gene

[terraricca]

K

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T, You do not hear what I am saying but then I implied a question and provided the context to answer it.  The question written when literally put to words is “How did Jesus redeem believers with a payment that was enough when God said “no payment is ever enough”? ————–

you really are a fisher of question

it is true that the offering must be perfect and without blemish ,this no men born of men can be this is a fact;

but this sacrifice is only to cover our sins to obtain life ;but it does not give us life so to speak ,only access to the way to obtain life ,

now sins all men are guilty of sin and does not deserve life eternal ,they need someone that could protect them a the vengeance of the one (GOD)that holds the power of justice ,because it says ' the soul that sins is the soul that will die,

so God in the law he give to Israel ad already made arrangement if someone comet a crime by error or unwillingly or unintentionally God ad create the CITIES OF REFUGE TO RUN TO, AND FIND SAFETY FOR   HIS LIFE ,AFTER THE EARNING OF THE HIGH PRIEST OF HIS EXPLANATION TO THE FACTS TO SEE IF HE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO STAY IN THE CITY OR BE SEND OUT OF IT ,AND SO BE ALLOWED TO BE KILLED BY THE AVENGER OF THE BLOOD ,IF ACCEPTED HE HAS TO REMAIN IN THE CITY UNTIL THE DEAD OF THE HIGH PRIEST ,ONLY THEN HE WOULD BE CLEARED OF HIS DEBT OR SIN ,

THIS SAID ,WE NOW UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY OF REFUGE STANDS FOR THE KINGDOM  OF CHRIST IN THIS JESUS IS THE HIGH PRIEST ,AND WE HAVE TO GO TROUGH HIM AND EXPLAIN TO HIM WHY WE SHOULD NOT BE KILLED FOR OUR SINS ,AND CONFESS THEM TO HIM IN FULL HUMILITY OF HEART,SO THAT WE MAY BE ACCEPTED TO STAY UNDER HIS UMBRELLA FOR PROTECTION FROM THE AVENGER CLAIM GOD (THE SOUL THAT SINS IS THE SOUL THAT DIES )

SO IT IS TRUE THAT ONLY THE SACRIFICE DOES NOT SAFE US BUT ALSO WE HAVE TO OBEY TO THE RULES OF THE HIGH PRIEST ;THIS IS WHY CHRIST SAYS TO OBEY TO WHAT HE SAYS , AND THIS UNTIL GOD AS FINISH WITH THIS AGE WERE HE WILL REMOVE 'ALL” OUR SINS AND WILL NO LONGER REMEMBER THEM NEITHER WILL WE ,SO THE PAYMENT IS THE SACRIFICE OF CHRIST + OUR LIVE LONG DEVOTION TO HIS FATHER TROUGH HIM ,

THIS IS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT ,

[kerwin]

T,

I am not sure how you believe that answered my question.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2014,00:12)

T, I am not sure how you believe that answered my question.

K

ENOUGH + ENOUGH = ENOUGH
Christ sacrifice +deeds to stay under the umbrella of Christ = the end of this age when all his of new were God will not remember our sins

[Wakeup]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 31 2014,02:40)

Wakeup…….You getting Mixed up , the last day is in the Latter years, it is the Last day of those latter years. Latter years in a time reference, means those days after the Mid point of the 7000 years plan of God.  IMO , Another point i would like to make to you is you are equating the Jews as ISRAEL, and while they are one out of thirteen tribes of Israel, they in no way represent all of Israel. When God gathers Israel from the nations it will not just be the Jews. In fact if you care to you can look in scripture and find the Kingdom of Israel at war with the Kingdom of Judah. Israel was divided into two different Nations after King Solomon. I believe the war of Gog and Magog does not take place until at the end of the thousand year rule of Jesus and the Saints, when Satan is released for the bottomless pit and goes out to deceives the nations and brings them to battle against  Jesus and the Saints, who have withdrawn to Jerusalem , and fire comes down from heaven and destroy's  them all and it shall take seven years to depose of all the bodies.  I disagree with your view, the war of Gog and Magog is not the battle of Armageddon, i believe it is .   There is a reason for it to take place after the Millennial  regin of Jesus and the saints, and that is , it demenstrated that even though all the world is taught about God and his word by Jesus and the Saints, and that evil is completely removed from the earth. Those people who were taught and instructed by the Saints and Jesus will turn on them as soon as Satan and his evil influence is allowed to influence them. What does all this Prove, a very simple point, and that is that unless you have the SPIRIT of GOD “IN” YOU, We cannot continue to maintain  righteous Character, even if a person was never been exposed to evil before, and were living in a completely righteous environment , they or we could not “maintain” it,  without God's SPIRIT abiding or remaining in us or them , Just as it does in Jesus and the Saints, who will maintain there faith and trust in God even when the whole world turns against them. That is the whole Point that the Millennial time period proves.  It makes clear that without the SPIRIT of GOD in a Person,  no one can “maintain” righteousness. Another words we must all be KEPT right by God the FATHERS SPIRIT itself. That is why it say the LORD BLESS YOU “and” KEEP YOU IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………………………….gene

GeneB.

You obviously did not read my post,carefully.
Because that is what I have said.

1.Armageddon is at the second coming.
2.The battle of gog and magog is after the thousand years.
3.At the second coming all the jews of all generations
will be brought back by choice.
I mention jews meaning all israel of all generations.
Chosen by choice.Some will not come to that thousand
year rest if not chosen.

wakeup.

[GeneBalthrop]

Wakeup……..Scripture say after Christ's returns, he shall separated the nations, as a Sheppard separates the sheep from the goats, and this separation could cause a great rift between the nations, and there could come a war out of all that. But that is Just speculation IMO. Tell me Wakeup who do you think Gog and Magog is. What nations are they? in your opinion.

peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 31 2014,02:43)

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2014,00:12) T, I am not sure how you believe that answered my question. K ENOUGH           + ENOUGH                                                         = ENOUGH Christ sacrifice   +deeds to stay under the umbrella of Christ = the end of this age when all his of new were God will not remember our sins

T,

Doesn't that disagree with the words of Psalms 49:8 that say ” no payment is ever enough”?

If it does not disagree then tell me why?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2014,01:34)

Wakeup……..Scripture say after Christ's returns, he shall separated the nations, as a Sheppard separates the sheep from the goats, and this separation could cause a great rift between the nations, and there could come a war out of all that. But that is Just speculation IMO. Tell me Wakeup who do you think Gog and Magog is. What nations are they?  in your opinion. peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene

GeneB.

Matthew 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

Matthew 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

This will happen in the second resurrection.
All nations of **all generations** will be brought back in the flesh for the great judgment. They will be judged by the BOOKS.

THE FIRST RESURRECTION ARE OF THE SAINTS IN CHRIST.

THE NATIONS OF TUBAL AND MESHECH ARE THE GENTILES
THAT HAVE MULTIPLIED DURING THE THOUSAND YEARS.
THEY ARE THEM THAT STILL REFUSE TO COME TO CHRIST.
BECAUSE OF THE FALLEN ANGELS TEMPTATIONS.
THESE ARE NOT WORTHY TO BE IN THE KINGDOM.
THEY WILL ALSO BE JUDGED BY THE BOOKS.

BUT SATAN WAS IN PRISON,DURING THE THOUSAND YEARS.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2014,21:14)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 31 2014,02:43) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2014,00:12) T, I am not sure how you believe that answered my question. K ENOUGH           + ENOUGH                                                         = ENOUGH Christ sacrifice   +deeds to stay under the umbrella of Christ = the end of this age when all his of new were God will not remember our sins T, Doesn't that disagree with the words of Psalms 49:8  that say ” no payment is ever enough”? If it does not disagree then tell me why?

k

no, it does not ,because the one who claim the price for redemption is also the one that give mercy to us

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2014,04:59)

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2014,21:14) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 31 2014,02:43) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2014,00:12) T, I am not sure how you believe that answered my question. K ENOUGH           + ENOUGH                                                         = ENOUGH Christ sacrifice   +deeds to stay under the umbrella of Christ = the end of this age when all his of new were God will not remember our sins T, Doesn't that disagree with the words of Psalms 49:8  that say ” no payment is ever enough”? If it does not disagree then tell me why? k no, it does not ,because the one who claim the price for redemption is also the one that give mercy to us

T,

Are you saying God changes his mind as he would be the one accepting the cost and he said “no payment is enough”. Remember to look at the context of those words.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 01 2014,08:15)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2014,04:59) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2014,21:14) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 31 2014,02:43) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2014,00:12) T, I am not sure how you believe that answered my question. K ENOUGH           + ENOUGH                                                         = ENOUGH Christ sacrifice   +deeds to stay under the umbrella of Christ = the end of this age when all his of new were God will not remember our sins T, Doesn't that disagree with the words of Psalms 49:8  that say ” no payment is ever enough”? If it does not disagree then tell me why? k no, it does not ,because the one who claim the price for redemption is also the one that give mercy to us T, Are you saying God changes his mind as he would be the one accepting the cost and he said “no payment is enough”.  Remember to look at the context of those words.

k

yes ;he is in tittle to do so ;if it pleases him ,just as it was pleasing him at one point to save NINIVE with Jonas preaching, and for us all gentiles ,and also with Noah at the flood ,remember God's love is great and his mercy is also great all those things are so that the sinners we are change and love him and so be saved ,all the mercy that God gives us is that so it is possible for us to see our clear conscience and not feel guilty of them but stop doing them for the sake of his love ,

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2014,02:28)

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 01 2014,08:15) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2014,04:59) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2014,21:14) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 31 2014,02:43) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2014,00:12) T, I am not sure how you believe that answered my question. K ENOUGH           + ENOUGH                                                         = ENOUGH Christ sacrifice   +deeds to stay under the umbrella of Christ = the end of this age when all his of new were God will not remember our sins T, Doesn't that disagree with the words of Psalms 49:8  that say ” no payment is ever enough”? If it does not disagree then tell me why? k no, it does not ,because the one who claim the price for redemption is also the one that give mercy to us T, Are you saying God changes his mind as he would be the one accepting the cost and he said “no payment is enough”.  Remember to look at the context of those words. k yes ;he is in tittle to do so ;if it pleases him ,just as it was pleasing him at one point to save NINIVE with Jonas preaching, and for us all gentiles ,and also with Noah at the flood ,remember God's love is great and his mercy is also great all those things are so that the sinners we are change and love him and so be saved ,all the mercy that God gives us is that so it is possible for us to see our clear conscience and not feel guilty of them but stop doing them for the sake of his love ,

T,

There is evidence in Scripture that make it appear that God changes his mind but I believe he was talking about money in Psalms 49 as previous to it God says “..those who trust in their wealth..” and afterwards it states ” and “..leaving their wealth to others”.

Never the lets go with the idea God changed his mind. If he changed his mind that “no payment is ever enough” then he also can change his mind that “No one can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for them-…”

[terraricca]

k

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Ps 49:1 Hear this, all you peoples; listen, all who live in this world, Ps 49:2 both low and high, rich and poor alike: Ps 49:3 My mouth will speak words of wisdom; the utterance from my heart will give understanding. Ps 49:4 I will turn my ear to a proverb; with the harp I will expound my riddle: Ps 49:5 Why should I fear when evil days come, when wicked deceivers surround me— Ps 49:6 those who trust in their wealth and boast of their great riches? Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for him— Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly, no payment is ever enough— Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever and not see decay.

i believe this Psalm  is addressed to the WORLD OF MEN ,and point out the fact that their exist difference between the rich and the poor ,BUT IT SAYS THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW RICH IS A MEN NO MONEY OR RICHES IN THIS WORLD IS OR COULD BE ENOUGH TO PAY GOD FOR HIS LIFE,(UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT EVER A MEN POSSESSIONS ARE, THEY ALL BELONG TO GOD ANYWAY ,WHY WOULD GOD ACCEPT HIS OWN WEALTH OR PAID WITH HIS OWN RICHES THE RANSOM FOR MEN  

SO THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH POSSESSION YOU OWN YOU WOULD BE LIKE HAVING NONE BEFORE GOD THAT IS ,AND YET GOD AS MERCY ON US BY SENDING HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO PAY THE PRICE NO OTHER CAN PAY FOR OUR LIFE'S

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2014,04:54)

k Quote Ps 49:1 Hear this, all you peoples; listen, all who live in this world, Ps 49:2 both low and high, rich and poor alike: Ps 49:3 My mouth will speak words of wisdom; the utterance from my heart will give understanding. Ps 49:4 I will turn my ear to a proverb; with the harp I will expound my riddle: Ps 49:5 Why should I fear when evil days come, when wicked deceivers surround me— Ps 49:6 those who trust in their wealth and boast of their great riches? Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for him— Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly, no payment is ever enough— Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever and not see decay. i believe this Psalm  is addressed to the WORLD OF MEN ,and point out the fact that their exist difference between the rich and the poor ,BUT IT SAYS THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW RICH IS A MEN NO MONEY OR RICHES IN THIS WORLD IS OR COULD BE ENOUGH TO PAY GOD FOR HIS LIFE,(UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT EVER A MEN POSSESSIONS ARE, THEY ALL BELONG TO GOD ANYWAY ,WHY WOULD GOD ACCEPT HIS OWN WEALTH OR PAID WITH HIS OWN RICHES THE RANSOM FOR MEN   SO THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH POSSESSION YOU OWN YOU WOULD BE LIKE HAVING NONE BEFORE GOD THAT IS ,AND YET GOD AS MERCY ON US BY SENDING HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO PAY THE PRICE NO OTHER CAN PAY FOR OUR LIFE'S

T,

Jesus did not pay with money.  His payment was with an act of mercy and righteousness.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 02 2014,05:00)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2014,04:54) k Quote Ps 49:1 Hear this, all you peoples; listen, all who live in this world, Ps 49:2 both low and high, rich and poor alike: Ps 49:3 My mouth will speak words of wisdom; the utterance from my heart will give understanding. Ps 49:4 I will turn my ear to a proverb; with the harp I will expound my riddle: Ps 49:5 Why should I fear when evil days come, when wicked deceivers surround me— Ps 49:6 those who trust in their wealth and boast of their great riches? Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for him— Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly, no payment is ever enough— Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever and not see decay. i believe this Psalm  is addressed to the WORLD OF MEN ,and point out the fact that their exist difference between the rich and the poor ,BUT IT SAYS THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW RICH IS A MEN NO MONEY OR RICHES IN THIS WORLD IS OR COULD BE ENOUGH TO PAY GOD FOR HIS LIFE,(UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT EVER A MEN POSSESSIONS ARE, THEY ALL BELONG TO GOD ANYWAY ,WHY WOULD GOD ACCEPT HIS OWN WEALTH OR PAID WITH HIS OWN RICHES THE RANSOM FOR MEN   SO THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH POSSESSION YOU OWN YOU WOULD BE LIKE HAVING NONE BEFORE GOD THAT IS ,AND YET GOD AS MERCY ON US BY SENDING HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO PAY THE PRICE NO OTHER CAN PAY FOR OUR LIFE'S T, Jesus did not pay with money.  His payment was with an act of mercy and righteousness.

K

A PAYMENT IS A PAYMENT ,IN GOODS,IN FRUITS,IN LABOR,IN MONEY,WITH A LIFE, ……………………………

AS LONG THAT THE COLLECTOR IS SATISFIED WITH THE PAYMENT THAT IS WHAT COUNTS

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2014,08:35)

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2014,01:34) Wakeup……..Scripture say after Christ's returns, he shall separated the nations, as a Sheppard separates the sheep from the goats, and this separation could cause a great rift between the nations, and there could come a war out of all that. But that is Just speculation IMO. Tell me Wakeup who do you think Gog and Magog is. What nations are they?  in your opinion. peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene GeneB. Matthew 25:32   And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:  Matthew 25:33   And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. This will happen in the second resurrection. All nations of **all generations** will be brought back in the flesh for the great judgment. They will be judged by the BOOKS. THE FIRST RESURRECTION ARE OF THE SAINTS IN CHRIST. THE NATIONS OF TUBAL AND MESHECH ARE THE GENTILES THAT HAVE MULTIPLIED DURING THE THOUSAND YEARS. THEY ARE THEM THAT STILL REFUSE TO COME TO CHRIST. BECAUSE OF THE FALLEN ANGELS TEMPTATIONS. THESE ARE NOT WORTHY TO BE IN THE KINGDOM. THEY WILL ALSO BE JUDGED BY THE BOOKS. BUT SATAN WAS IN PRISON,DURING THE THOUSAND YEARS. wakeup.

Marty………..I disagree with you one this , Jesus will separate the nation at His return to being his 1000 year reign on this earth. You have left out verse 31, which say When the Son of man shall come in his glory and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: that will take place at his return to this earth and that will also be the first resurrection of Human beings from their graves , the second resurrection comes a thousand years latter , is the way i understand it . I think you may have your time periods mixed up brother.

I also ask you, who do you think Gog and Magog is, would you please explain that.

peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2014,05:09)

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 02 2014,05:00) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2014,04:54) k Quote Ps 49:1 Hear this, all you peoples; listen, all who live in this world, Ps 49:2 both low and high, rich and poor alike: Ps 49:3 My mouth will speak words of wisdom; the utterance from my heart will give understanding. Ps 49:4 I will turn my ear to a proverb; with the harp I will expound my riddle: Ps 49:5 Why should I fear when evil days come, when wicked deceivers surround me— Ps 49:6 those who trust in their wealth and boast of their great riches? Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for him— Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly, no payment is ever enough— Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever and not see decay. i believe this Psalm  is addressed to the WORLD OF MEN ,and point out the fact that their exist difference between the rich and the poor ,BUT IT SAYS THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW RICH IS A MEN NO MONEY OR RICHES IN THIS WORLD IS OR COULD BE ENOUGH TO PAY GOD FOR HIS LIFE,(UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT EVER A MEN POSSESSIONS ARE, THEY ALL BELONG TO GOD ANYWAY ,WHY WOULD GOD ACCEPT HIS OWN WEALTH OR PAID WITH HIS OWN RICHES THE RANSOM FOR MEN   SO THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH POSSESSION YOU OWN YOU WOULD BE LIKE HAVING NONE BEFORE GOD THAT IS ,AND YET GOD AS MERCY ON US BY SENDING HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO PAY THE PRICE NO OTHER CAN PAY FOR OUR LIFE'S T, Jesus did not pay with money.  His payment was with an act of mercy and righteousness. K A PAYMENT IS A PAYMENT ,IN GOODS,IN FRUITS,IN LABOR,IN MONEY,WITH A LIFE, …………………………… AS LONG THAT THE COLLECTOR IS SATISFIED WITH THE PAYMENT THAT IS WHAT COUNTS

T,

Yes.

[kerwin]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 02 2014,06:09)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2014,08:35) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2014,01:34) Wakeup……..Scripture say after Christ's returns, he shall separated the nations, as a Sheppard separates the sheep from the goats, and this separation could cause a great rift between the nations, and there could come a war out of all that. But that is Just speculation IMO. Tell me Wakeup who do you think Gog and Magog is. What nations are they?  in your opinion. peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene GeneB. Matthew 25:32   And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:  Matthew 25:33   And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. This will happen in the second resurrection. All nations of **all generations** will be brought back in the flesh for the great judgment. They will be judged by the BOOKS. THE FIRST RESURRECTION ARE OF THE SAINTS IN CHRIST. THE NATIONS OF TUBAL AND MESHECH ARE THE GENTILES THAT HAVE MULTIPLIED DURING THE THOUSAND YEARS. THEY ARE THEM THAT STILL REFUSE TO COME TO CHRIST. BECAUSE OF THE FALLEN ANGELS TEMPTATIONS. THESE ARE NOT WORTHY TO BE IN THE KINGDOM. THEY WILL ALSO BE JUDGED BY THE BOOKS. BUT SATAN WAS IN PRISON,DURING THE THOUSAND YEARS. wakeup. Marty………..I disagree with you one this , Jesus will separate the nation at His return to being his  1000 year  reign on this earth. You have left out verse 31, which say When the Son of man shall come in his glory and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: that will take place at his return to this earth and that will also be the first resurrection of Human beings from their graves , the second resurrection comes a thousand years latter , is the way i understand it . I think you may have your time periods mixed up brother. I also ask you, who do you think Gog and Magog is, would you please explain that. peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

Gene,

When Scripture states to God a year is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a year then how long is this thousand years you speak of?

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