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Hi GB,
There will indeed be CHANGE.
“We shall all be CHANGED” 1 cor 15 31
The first man is from the earth-earthy. The second man is from heaven.
Which will you be like – in your dreams??
Nick,
Hi KW,
Is 65-66 is about the remnant of the jewish people who will be thought accursed if they do not live to 100.
That is not written in Scripture so where did you get it from?
Mark 9:43-44Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 44 where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mark 9:45-46Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 46 where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mark 9:47-48Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48 where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Nick. ….Change of our bodies means, changed from mortal to imortal, not a different body, but our flesh bodies will be changed from able to die to not being able to die. Just as Paul said, “this mortal must put on imortality”, the only thing mortal about us is our bodies, any simpleton should be able to figure that out.
We can’t say this mortal spirit must put on imortality now can we because the spirit is not what dies, and is not what is raised from the grave, the only thing raised is our”MORTAL” (dead ) BODIES. HERE IS ANOTHER REPEAT FOR YOU, TO IGNOR AGAIN, “for we hope for the resurection, which will witness the “redemption” of OUR (presently existing) BODIES”. How do you redeemed anything that is done away with, why raise it up again if it is not needed. Why not try to answer some our scriptural concerns for a change, what was the “IT” THAT IS BURIED IN WEAKNESS, AND RAISED POWER, WHY WAS JESUS RAISED WITH HIS FLESH AND BONE BODY? It was not just to prove he was alive he could have done that just as easily with anykind of body that looked like him, why a body that came back to life from the grave, and why did he say he was not a spirit because spirits DO NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONE BODIES AS HE DID. Did you get what he said Nick.
The Gnostic’s believed Jesus was disguised as a flesh man but was really a spirit or phantom of some kind, it appears you also do. GOD AND JESUS PLAYING TRICKS ON EVERONE ABOUT THE TRUE RESURECTION, RIGHT?
YOUR SELF MADE IDEAS THAT WE BECAME SPIRIT BODIES or HAVE SPIRIT BODIES OF SOME KIND IS A FALSE TEACHING, NOT ONE SCRIPTURE SAYS THAY. Being buried a natural body and bring raised a spritual body, only changes what is sustaining and regenerating that exact same body that died and was buried and was raised by the SPIRIT of GOD, THAT ABIDES IN IT. IT WILL BEING BACK TO LIFE OUR “DEAD” or MORTAL BODIES FROM THE GRAVE.
Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene
Hi GB,
You seem to very knowledgable on a subject about which scripture is relatively silent.
When do you get this KNOWLEDGE?
Is your confidence rather presumption?
Nick,
Isaiah 65:17-20Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth:
and the former shall not be remembered,
nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create:
for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing,
and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem,
and joy in my people:
and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her,
nor the voice of crying.
20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days,
nor an old man that hath not filled his days:
for the child shall die an hundred years old;
but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.That passage also sounds like its speaking of the world to come by the context but it does not sound like it by its literally meaning. If we take it literally then a time will come when the righteous live linger and sinners do not. As far as I know the time Isaiah calls “there” could be the current time as sinners seldom reach one hundred years old and the the righteous seem a rare as hens teeth.
I was thinking the what many Christians call the 1000 years but I do not think there is any death or dying then as it is after the first resurrection.
I do not know how it relates to Isaiah 66:24 or Jesus’ three quotes from it in Mark.
I do know that if there is sinners that alive then Isaiah 65:20 occurs first for Isaiah 66:24 states ”
And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me”Here is a passage that gives the idea that the wicked will dwell outside the gates of Jerusalem.
Revelation 22:14-15Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Nick……only silent to a mind that does not see like yours, it is scriptural ly clear to those who do see.
Your obvious equal to answer this only proves, WHAT IS THE “IT” PAUL WAS TALKING ABOUT. Tell us Nick does the word MAN mean someone who does not have a human body of flesh. Are angel called men or human beings.
What is man that thou visit him, you have made him “A LITTLE” LOWER THE THE ANGELS, THOUGHTS HAS CROWNED HIM (mankind) WITH GLORY AND HONOR, THOUGHTS HAS PUTTING “ALL” THINGS UNDER “HIS” (mankinds feet) IN THAT HE SAYS “ALL” THINGS , THERE IS “NOTHING” THAT IS NOT U DER HIS (MANKINDS) FEET.
HOW CLEARLY HOW SIMPLE GOD HAS PLACE “ALL” THINGS UNDER MAN FEET, BOTH IN HEAVEN AND EARTH, BUT WE DO NOT “YET”SEE “ALL THINGS” UNDER HIS (mankinds) FEET,BUT WHAT DO WE SEE ,MN WE SEE JESUS MADE A “LITTLE” LOWER THEN THE ANGELS (JUST LIKE US) FOR THE “TASTING” OF DEATH, “NOW” CROWNED WITH GLORY AND HONOR AND “ALL” THINGS UNDER HIS FEET. JESUS IS STILL A SON OF MAN. HE IS NOT AN ANGEL OR ANY OTHER CREATION OF ANY KIND. HE IS STILL A FLESH AND BONE “MAN” FROM HUMAN ROOTS, NOTHING HAS CHANGED SENSE HIS RESURECTION BACK TO LIFE FROM THE GRAVE.
NO SCRIPTURE SAYS HE WAS CHANGED AFTER HIS RESURECTION TO SOME OTHER FORM OF CREATION, JUST YOUR OWN ASSUMPTION DRAWN FROM WHAT YOU BELIEVE SCRIPTURE SAYS, BUT NOT ONE SINGLE PROOF TEXT OF ANY BODY CHANGED TALKING PLACE.YOUR THE ONE WHO HAS NO SCRIPTURE PROOF BACKING YOU UP, ME AND KERWIN BOTH HAVE PRESENTED SO MANY SCRIPTURES ANYONE WITH GOD’S SPIRIT OF TRUTH SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND.
IT IS INTERESTING HOW YOU CAN JUST THROW OUT THOSE SCRIPTURES WE POST AS IF THEY DO NOT EVEN EXISTS IN YOUR BIBLE AND GO ON WITH YOU OWN PERSONAL ASSUMED RENDITIONS OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO SAY.
Peace and love to you and yours……………gene
Hi GB,
You may boast of superior knowledge but is that wise behaviour?
Faith is more useful than presumption
Nick…….who is boasting, here not me, in fact it is you who is doing the boasting by all you insulting remarks, and ignoring scriptures we have posted to you over and over, they seem to just go right over you head and then you just come back, with words like , “faith is more useful then persumption”
All you decending commits are put downs, all the while by using those put down words, your trying to give off the impression you know better then others who disagree with you, by your half wit derogatory commits. You ignore scriptures we post, and then begin to accuse us with demeaning words, as if you somehow know better. But your persumptions do not even come close to all the scriptural truths and posts we have presented to support our views, AND WE ARE NOT BRAGE GOD ABOUT IT EITHER, and so failling to get your way by scriptures you start you personal character attacks. Hardly a true Christians way of fellowship. Dialogue is good between brothers who respect each other, and their point of views, even if they disagree with your own. You have every right to disagree with our views, just as we have every right to disagree with your own point of views. No need to go beyond that Nick. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
Hi GB,
You seem to say it is your way or the highway and take offence when your way is shown to be not of the light
Why is this?
Nick…..you might entertain your self your self grandiose words of self enlightment, but the are far from the truth of God and scriptures.
Nick here is something for you written by someone otber then me….> bible-truths.com/23 minutes in hell.html <… now read what he has said and see how that fits your doctrines you believe in.
Kerwin and EDJ, T8, JOURNEY, WAKEUP, CARMEL, TERRICCA, MIKE, ALL WHO ARE ON THIS SITE I ENVITE YOU TO READ THIS completely, and come back here a tell me what you think, this man views these things the exact way i do about “freewill’ , “eternal hell fire”, Gods power and purpose to save “ALL” humanity backed by scripture after scripture, this research paper is excellent in translational accuracy.
Let see who is guided by the spirit of “truth” here or not.
It is a very indepth scriptural study of some very inportant topices we have had descussed on here for a long time.
peace and love to you and yours………………..gene
bible-truths,com/23 minutes in hell.html
Kerwin ….I would like you to especially read this brother. And that goes to everyone else here to.
peace and love to you to you all………………gene
Hi GB,
Finding others who agree with your wayward views would not help your relationship with the Master.
his words should be paramountNick…….just do me this one favor and read it OK, IT’S not my words, but if you find fault with it, then let me know. Many thingihave said here over the years are brought out in it, i did not know that untill i read it the other day, so please do me this one favor brother. You will not be disipointed i assure you.
Peace and love to you and yours. …………gene.
Gene
Kerwin and EDJ, T8, JOURNEY, WAKEUP, CARMEL, TERRICCA, MIKE, ALL WHO ARE ON THIS SITE I ENVITE YOU TO READ THIS completely, and come back here a tell me what you think, this man views these things the exact way i do about “freewill’ , “eternal hell fire”, Gods power and purpose to save “ALL” humanity backed by scripture after scripture, this research paper is excellent in translational accuracy.
Let see who is guided by the spirit of “truth” here or not.
It is a very indepth scriptural study of some very inportant topices we have had descussed on here for a long time.
peace and love to you and yours………………..gene
in my opinion you really believe we are ignorant and stupid on this site ,and none can read neiter the scriptures and have not study freewill at all ‘
5 years you are telling us what make no sens to us at the least to me , you talk about others how good they are but we here all believe in scriptures and so lay the foundation their of ; you just can not accept the truth of the freewill of choice that God as given to you and all of us ,
i went and see that forum but but those discussion occur here but you seem not to accept it
the question that seems to be heading me is why is it you cannot explain it to us that you have to send us to someone else ?
i am already tired of telling you the same thing over and over again and you still don’t get it ;
it seems your message would be “shut up and accept what you say ” cannot do that my freewill does not allow me to do it
Nick…..whats wrong, are you afraid you might see something that completely destroy’s you false asumptions, and it is backed up with scipture after scriptures, are you so fearful you won’t even really read it, because it might destory your house you have built on a sand foundation which you believe is true? Whats wrong with Reading it?, doesn’t your bible say “the fearful and unbelieving will have their part in the lake of fire”.
peace and love to you and yours………………gene
Kerwin…….it has nothing to do with this subjet, but it certainly does with some very important subjects we have we are talking about here expecially about “the so-called “freewill”, and also hell and the lake of fire mentioned here often times. Just give it a read and please let me know what you think. I am sure you at least will read it with an open mind and give it an honest evaluation. I personally agree with the article so please do it for me OK.
peace and love to you and yours……………..gene
Nick….who ever said i follow them, why do you continue to lie about me here. I just said the writer of that artical is right, and even if i agree with the writer that obviously means i don’t agree with both of them. You are falsely accusing me, that is not healthy according to the Bible you say you believe in.
peace and love to you and yours……………….gene
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