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Nick………tell me what does this mean to you. Paul said “IT” (OUR PRESENT BODIES) ARE BURIED IN WEAKNESS, “it” (our present bodies are raised in power, “IT” (OUR PRESENT BODIESL) ARE BURIED in dishonor “IT” (OUR PRESENT BODIES ) ARE RAISED IN GLORY AND HONOR, “IT” (our present bodies) is sown a natural body, “IT” (our present bodies) is raised a spritual body. Did you NOTICE THE “IT” THERE?, do you think that mean a different body?
HOW do you skirt around those clear scriptures. Do you think by saying we don’t know the body to be means it won’t be a physical flesh body, it is obvious we now don’t know what our empowered and glorified bodies that we now have will be like, having never experienced that regeneration yet.No scripture agree with what you are saying that it will be a completely different kind of body that would make the resurection of Jesus a hoax, and he as well as God liars, pulling a sham over all humanity. No what jesus was raised with is what he has forever, just as he said, “I was dead and am now alive for evermore”.
You have misconstrued everything PAUL WAS SAYING even about the seed that was sown, the seed that is sown is a dead body, which comes to life again in a regenerated body exactly like it came from in the beginning except it is spiritually kept alive forever.
Peace and love to you and yours……………….gene
Nick…….fact is you are the one who doesn’t understand it, and you are denying also it brother not Kerwin . IMO
peace and l I very to you and yours…………….gene
Nick……..I try to make scripture agree with me?, just read what I quoted Paul saying and use common English sense, and if I am wrong then show it. What is the “IT” PAUL IS TALKING ABOUT. Don’t try to play a shell game with me Nick, just see if you can answer that simple questions for a change. I know you will deny it because it completely goes against you own opinions and idea, about what the text says. Let’s be clear for a change , does the text say what I say it says or not. If not then prove it, Is is just that simple. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………..gene
Nick……stick with what I posted first and the we will again talk about your deversions. Again, what did Paul mean by the word “IT”, WAS IT OUR PRESENT BODIES HE WAS TALKING ABOUT OR NOT, lets Skip the shell game switch, let’s deal with this one question first, IF YOU CAN, OK.
Peace and love to you and yours…………….gene
Nick,
Hi KW,
You think it is NORMAL for people to awake healthy after a couple of days being dead?Your examples do not support such things.
It is not normal but it does happen. There are “scientific” explanations that may account for those rare occurrences but I still view them as miracles. Somewhere around a week is the most I have heard and even then her body remained warm to the touch. Some cases are due to what appears to be hibernation is humans.
Nick…….quite playing games and answer the question ask you, who was the “IT” PAUL was talking about. Why keep evading the question. Was the word “IT” REFERENCING our present bodies or not? YES OR NO
peace and love to you and yours……………….gene
Nick,
The truth is of God if it is used righteously. This present conversation began with you using something that was determined by science and that is that it appears colder the higher you go. Science, when used properly, is a device to teach us about God’s creation. I have no objection to learn about God’s creation including how the air appears colder as it thins at higher levels of elevation. I do object to science that is based on the principles of the sinful nature of man as it is not properly used. I also object when a person’s teachings from Scripture are based on the principles of the sinful nature of man. In both case you may have the correct data but you are getting a story that falls short of the glory of God.
Hi KW,
Man has a sinful nature?
Creation was very good.
The whole world is under the power of the evil one.
Man knows how to be righteous?
Nick,
Sinful nature is a synonym of flesh after all the natural man is lead by the flesh.
It is not having a sinful nature that is imperfect it is giving into its desire for Jesus was tempted as we are but without sin.
The whole world is under the power of the evil one except that which is not of the world and that which is of God is not of this world.
1 John 2:16New English Translation (NET Bible)
16 because all that is in the world (the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the arrogance produced by material possessions) is not from the Father, but is from the world.
The truth come from God.
Don’t you believe creation bears witness of his glory?The gospel teaches us the only way to be righteous is to obey it and so live by faith in the one true God.
Hi KW,
A SYNONYM OF FLESH
Is this according to scripture or your own ideas?
Natural man is incapable of righteousness. Only the Spirit can lead into the light.
Nick,
A man that is lead the flesh is incapable of righteousness. They are doomed to fall short of the glory of God.
Only those who choose to walk according to the Spirit will obtain righteousness which is why those that hunger and thirst for righteousness are filled by adhering to the gospel.
The nature of this world is of the evil one which is why John pointed out that those things that are not of God are of the world in 1 John 2:16. The flesh is of the nature of this world and that is sinful as shown by the words “the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the arrogance produced by material possessions”.
The natural man is evil because he is of the world but the man who is not evil is so because he is a son of God. Never the less both are human beings.
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