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Hi KW,
When the light fills us we will be like Jesus on the mountain.
Such lights are to shine out in the world.Kerwin…….remember what Paul said beother, 20th 3:2……”and that we may be delivered from “UNREASONABLE” and wicked men: for all men have not the faith.”
Kerwin it is not wrong to use your God given mind guided by his spirit to reason with us and others brother. Remember what it says ” I saw the Lord decending from mount Paron with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment in the earth and to “convience” ALL THE UNGODLY, of there UNGODLY deeds, which they have ungodly committed”.
Now how do you convince anyone without reasoning with them?. Many scriptures shows God reasoning with mankind engaged in reasoning dialogs, Remember the saying iron sharpens iron. We are all in a process of growing in grace and knowledge. Jesus told us to knock, ask, and seek, if God did not want use to reason with each hot her , he would never have give people a high priest, we would not be called to be a kingdom of Priests, if God did not want us to use reason in representing him. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
mikeboll64 wrote:God, who is spirit, has MANY sons who are also spirit. We usually call them “angels”. God caused His firstborn of those spirit sons to be made in the likeness of a human being, and born as flesh from the womb of a human woman.
Hi Mike,
Scripture DOES NOT SAY that Jesus was an Angel.
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Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODkerwin wrote:Yes, as [the Word] became flesh first through Jesus and then in those that believe in his name.
Hi Kerwin,
Yes, that is what the bible teaches.
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Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODAs long as as you are making God’s word into his son I see no distance gained.
My word is not someone else, my word is not my son, my word is ME.Ed, there never will be any distance gained until you come to understand that Jesus isn’t called “the Word” because he is, or was, a literal word spoken by God. He is called “the Word of God” because he is God’s main spokesman.
Just like the King of Abyssinia had a spokesman called Kal Hatze – which means “The Word of the King”.
So this discussion has NOTHING to do with any LITERAL word God ever spoke, thought, or whatever. And the sooner you come to know WHY Jesus has as one of his titles “The Word of God”, the better you’ll be able to understand what the scriptures really teach.
Hi Mike,
FALSE! It is religion that calls Jesus the word of God. And you believe THEIR message.
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODAre you suggesting that the term “only begotten” refers to a special preexistent state.
There is no evidence to suggest that is what the term means at all; unless you have some,
do you? Why can’t it instead simply mean that Jesus had no human biological father?In Hebrews Isaac is referred to as Abraham’s only begotten son. (ref. Heb 11:17)
Yet we know, Abraham also had a son named Ismael, who by the way
was the FIRSTBORN. So the term only begotten CANNOT mean firstborOnly begotten of the Father means only born of the Father. Which makes sense when you consider that the head of man is Christ, and the head of Christ is God. He came from God while creation came from God through the Word.
T8,
Jesus was the only born of the Father at his physical birth.
Why are you trying to apply its meaning to a per-existant state?___________
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Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODEDj……..Good point why do people try to tie Jesus’ berth on this earth to a preexisting Jesus.
Peace and love to you and yours……………..gene
Hi,
The first priority after the resurrection is to be taken up to meet the Lord in the air.
it can be chilly up there. If we stay in our weak natural bodies will we be clothed?
What of the married in Christ who are ONE FLESH?
Nick……you forget all things are possible with God, so don’t count out us having physical flesh bodies, that can become very powerful and live even without oxygen or with oxygen, gravity will not limit them either just as it did not limit Jesus and Peter from walking on water, nor Elijah the prophet from going up into the sky in a whirlwind, nor limiting Samson from bring down a Hugh stone temple. You seem to desire to limit God the Father and what he can and already has done with these flesh bodies of our. Once our bodies are spiritually activated there is no limit what can take place with them.
You assume Jesus was morphed into a different body, but you have not one scripture that says that, when the deciples saw Jesus ascending into heaven he had a physical body, the same body he arose with from the grave with, to speculate that is not true is disagreeing with clear scriptures, not one mention of some kind of change taking place. As relating to his body in revelations being glorified, that does not change anything, even Moses’s face could not be looked on, when he desended from the mountain being in the presents of God.
You are right on a lot of things Nick, but I sincerely believe you are wrong on this one brother.
Peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
Hi GB,
So now you make more assumptions all based on your previous assumption that we remain flesh?
Elijah was dressed.NICK……..The assumptions are on your part, I and Kerwin showed you scriptures that back up what we said, but you have not produced one scripture that says Jesus was “morphed” into a different body then what he was raised with. You belifs makes God himself a liar, he certainly showed there is a physical resurection of flesh for the “WHOLE HOUSE” OF ISRAEL. GOD ALSO SAID ADAM AND EVE COULD HAVE LIVE FOREVER JUST AS HE CREATED THEM, WITH FLESH BODIES. Why due you ignore those scriptures as if they do not exist, then accuse me of assumptions, but at least our assumptions are scripture backed and spiritually decerned.
Your assumptions only reflect your imaginations of what you want. We have scriptural proof and have listed them but you simply are refusing to except them, some are even from the very mouth of God himself. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene
Nick…….You say Elijah was dressed, please post scripture that says that or is that just another of your assumptions. We’re after truth here Nick, not your or mine personal unscriptual assumptions as to what scripture say without producing scripture support. I and Kerwin have give you s ritual support, why deny them as if they do not exist?
peace and love to you and yours……………gene
Nick,
it can be chilly up there. If we stay in our weak natural bodies will we be clothed?
Don’t you believe in of God who through Jesus created a multitude of fish and bread from just a few samples?
I assure you God has the “technology” to insulate even those yet in their mortal bodies from even the cold that liquifies hydrogen.
Hi KW,
So now you do believe in miracles,
IF they fit with your dogmas?
Make sure you take your toenail cutters with you.
Hi GB,
Scripture says we do not know what we will be like.
But you scoff at scripture saying we do- just look in the mirror.Nick,
I believe in miracles but I do not choose to say that Jesus’ body not knowing corruption in its burial place during the short time Jesus was dead was an event that was outside what occurs normally. You on the other hand choose to believe what you were taught by men because your knowledge of what is normal is limited in that particularity. That you believe what they said when you lacked knowledge is perhaps understandable but that continue to hold to it when knowledge is presented to you that shows the claim is false is questionable.
That is not what we speaking of. I am addressing your point which showed a lack of faith in the power of God. Scripture claims Jonah was in the belly of a fish for few days and there are those that say a man could not live without air for that long. I can speculate on how God kept him alive in that dark abode but whatever way chose to do so he did it for it is testified in Scripture. Embrace faith in the power of God in your discussions.
Hi KW,
You think it is NORMAL for people to awake healthy after a couple of days being dead?Your examples do not support such things.
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