They shall "all" be taught of, ( or is it, by) GOD

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  • #791102
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick……THAT IS HOW I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE FROM, BY YOUR ACCUSITORY SPIRIT THAT ABIDES IN YOU, IT IS “IN” YOU AND YOU EXPRESS IT EVERY TIME YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND SPEAK. That is why you are unable to see the truth jesus was saying in his words WHICH i quoted word for word.

    IF YOU SAY THE “WORDS” JESUS SAID TO US “ARE” NOT “SPIRIT” AND “ARE NOT “LIFE” THEN, YOU ARE OF THE EVIL ONE, AND THE TRUTH OF GOD DOES NOT ABIDE “IN”YOU.

    peace and love to you and yours. ………………..gene

    #791103
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick……PLEASE TELL US WHERE JESUS LAYED CLAIM TO THE WORDS HE WAS SPEAKING as comming from “HIS” spirit, AS YOU FALSELY SAY. My bible says, he said the words he spoke were “NOT” “HIS” WORDS, BUT THE WORDS OF HIM WHO SENT HIM. Seems you have misrepresent the truth again. `

    NICK, A NOVICE LIKE YOU SHOULD NOT TEACH, we are told. produce the scripures that back up your words, Your teaching your ideas and not scripturely backing them up, “O” ACCUSER OF THE BRETHERN.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………………..gene

    #791104
    kerwin
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    Gene,

    Kerwin……You frst need to understand what a soul really is, before you start to expound on it IMO.

    I have not idea how this sentence is linked to the words that follow in your post.

    #791105
    kerwin
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    Gene,

    You may not truly believe what JESUS “CLEARLY” SAID, WHEN HE SAID, THE WORDS HE WAS SPEAKING TO US “ARE” LIFE “AND” “ARE” SPIRIT.

    His words are Spiritual and obeying them leads to eternal life. They are understood to those that are guided by the Spirit of God, which is to say Spiritual, even before they obtain it in its role of Teacher. The are spoken by the One, whom is like God it true righteousness and holiness and therefore Spiritual.

    If you believe Jesus is the Anointed of God then you would know this even if it was not written in Scripture.

    #791106
    kerwin
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    Gene,

    KERWIN LOOK UP THE WORD “ARE” AND SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH, AND THEN APPLY THAT TO WHAT JESUS SAID.

    It is a form of the word “be” and in this case, like others in the Writings, it is used to describe the qualities of Jesus’ words. You are using the same definition but you are going outside of what he meant by basing your conclusions on a false premise.

    They are simple words that are self explanatory to those that are more mature in Christ. Even those that are but neonates in Christ understand then when they hear that his words are Spiritual and obeying them gives you the gift of eternal life. I think that you also know that if you can clear your head of Satan’s cobwebs.

    #791111
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    Better to be seen as a novice than found teaching your own ideas in the name of the Lord.

    #791112
    NickHassan
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    Hi,

    We need to learn from Jesus about the Spirit of Truth from the Father. Note that Jesus never speaks of another Spirit as the Spirit is one. Instead another Counsellor or Helper is spoken of.

     

    The role is that of conviction of the world about sin, righteousness and judgement.[jn16]The Helper also testifies about Jesus[jn15]. The Helper also is the Teacher that guides us into all truth[jn n16], that also reminds us of what Jesus has said.[Jn14]. We may be aware of the work of God in this way with us.

     

    Again in Mt 10 20 we are told that the Spirit of the Father will speak through us when we are brought before authorities to testify.

     

    The rest of the time we see the Spirit speaking through Jesus it is the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of the Son, the Word,  the Spirit that serves God.

     

     

     

    #791116
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    If you judge others as novices does that not mean you are boasting of your expertise?

    Is that wise?

    #791118
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    “IF YOU SAY THE “WORDS” JESUS SAID TO US “ARE” NOT “SPIRIT” AND “ARE NOT “LIFE” THEN, YOU ARE OF THE EVIL ONE, AND THE TRUTH OF GOD DOES NOT ABIDE “IN”YOU.”

    Before you accuse please show where I have said this.

    What I did say was that you had no right to twist this verse to say it applies to the words of all men.

    #791224
    GeneBalthrop
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    NICK…… DID YOU SEE THE WORDS “IF” YOU SAY”,I DID NOT SAY “YOU SAID” THAT NOW DID I, AND OUR WORDS DO APPLY TO US, JUST AS THE WORDS OF GOD APPLY TO HIM. You own words “ARE” YOUR SPIRIT AND “ARE” YOUR LIFE, THEY “ARE” WHAT IS “IN” YOU AND COME FROM YOU, THEY EXPRESS (those intellects of) THE SPIRITS WORKING IN YOU AND SPIRIT “IS” LIFE, DID NOT JESUS SAY TO US, “YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS”, THE FRUIT COMMING FROM YOUR MOUTH IS THE FRUIT OF AN ACCUSER OF THE BRETHERN, SO I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE FROM YOUR WORDS PROCEED FORTH FROM YOUR OWN HEART. EVEN AS JESUS KNOW WHO WAS THE FATHER OF THE PHARISEES, HE KNOW IT BY THEIR WORDS, BECAUSE IT CAME FROM THE SPIRITS WORKING IN THEM.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene

    #791460
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    You really should not get so upset when your teachings are tested.

    You would if they were just of you though.

    #791476
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    You want to be taught by God?

    Jer 4. 3

    “..Break up your fallow ground, and do not sow among thorns”

    Submit your rebellious mind to the Lord and repent of your own foolish notions first.

    #791483
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…..Good advice, you need to take it apply it to yourself, that would be a good start for you. I have no problem with anyone questioning what i have said, but be honest about what i have said.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene

    #791499
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    Is Abraham alive?

    #791501
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    God is the God of the living.

     

     

    #791530
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick……NO ABRAHAM IS NOT ALIVE ALL SINCE ADAM HAVE DIED AND HAVE NOT BEEN RESURECTED TO LIFE YET, BUT A TIME WILL COME WHEN THEY WILL BE RESURECTED BACK TO LIFE,

    Matt 22:29…..JESUS answered and said unto them, (this is you NICK) ” you do error, not knowing the scriptures, nor the Power of God. 30,FOR IN THE “RESURECTION” THEY NEITHER marry or aregiven in marrage, but are as the angels of GOD in heaven. 31, BUT AS TOUCHING THE “RESURECTION” OF THE “DEAD” ( NOW REMEMBER HE IS TALKING ABOUT TBE “RESURECTION OF THE “DEAD”, Have you not read that which was spoken unto you by GOD SAYING, 32,I am the GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, AN THE GOD OF JACOB? GOD IS NOT THE GOD OF THE DEAD, BUT THE LIVING ( SHOULD READ BUT THOSE “TO” LIVE). LOOK UP THE MEANING OF THE WORD USED THERE NICK.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……………….gene

    #791539
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Yes you do call him a liar then.

    You do not know the meaning of LIVING

    #791541
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    I suppose Nathan was dead when he spoke with the medium?

    #791542
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Were Elijah and Moses dead when they spoke with the Master on the mountain?

    #791543
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    It seems we need to consult you and your intellects about scripture if your role is so elevated.

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