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- March 6, 2015 at 3:31 pm#790103GeneBalthropParticipant
Who does the teaching?, what say you?
peace and love to you all and yours……………gene
March 7, 2015 at 5:30 am#790159GeneBalthropParticipantTO ALL……Bretheren you have “NO” NEED of anyone teaching you ,for the SPIRIT TEACHES YOU ALL THINGS.”
WE ARE ALL TOBE TAUGHT BY GOD HIMSELF, IN FACT WE ARE ALREADY BRING TAUGHT BY HIM.
peace and love to you all and yours………………gene
March 7, 2015 at 7:50 am#790165NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Yet you say parables are fictitious and spirits are intellects.
God did not teach you those things.
Rethink your stance
March 7, 2015 at 8:44 am#790169NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Check what you teach against what is revealed.
You often err so this promise does not yet apply to you.
March 7, 2015 at 9:23 am#790177kerwinParticipantGene,
I so not see a significant difference.
March 7, 2015 at 1:38 pm#790214GeneBalthropParticipantNick…..if you are going to quote me please quote me right ok? What i said wax a parable is a “fictious illustration.”
Websters dictionary……FULL DEFINITION OF “PARABLE”: EXAMPLE specifically: a usually short “FICTIOUS” story that “ILLUSTRATES” A moral or religious principle.
Here is a good explanation for you Nick….THE PARABLE is the designated use of language purposely intended to convey a hidden and secret meaning other than contained in the words themselves.
Another words allegorical story designed to illustrate or teach some truth or moral lesson.
It comes from the GREEK WORD “parabola” meaing to compare. It is a comparions so it can not be taken literally as said. Like a metaphor it is a comparison story.
Now NICK DO YOU still think i do not know what a parable is?
peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene
March 7, 2015 at 4:12 pm#790219NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Did Websters say FICTIOUS?
And you would offer Websters to interpret what is Spiritual?
March 7, 2015 at 4:24 pm#790222kerwinParticipantGene,
Even if the parable is fictitious it does not follow that its setting is fictitious. I am surprised Webster’s stated “fictitious” as a true story can also serve as a parable.
The online Merriam-Websters does not use definition for parable.
March 8, 2015 at 2:52 am#790274GeneBalthropParticipantNick……YES WEBSTER DOES USE “FICTIOUS” A “FICTIOUS” short story TO “ILLUSTRATE” A moral principle. The prinicple it illustrates is true, but the story “itself” is not, only what it is illustrating is true.
Jesus spoke in parables to decieve the masses, because it was not given to them to know the mysteries of the kingdom of GOD, JUST THE ELECT WERE PRIVILLAGED TO BE GIVEN THAT UNDERSTANDING. Read it for youself..> LUK 8:11
peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene
March 8, 2015 at 3:17 am#790275GeneBalthropParticipantKerwin……The definition given by webster i quoted is exactly right, a parable is a “fictious” ILLUSTRATION, story to illustrate A TRUE “PRINCIPLE”. The story itself can not be taken as literial, but its equivalent can be taken as true. You have to figure out what its equivalent is though.
They are aligorical, like a metaphor, a proveb, symbolic illustrations also represent tue thing , but must be deciphered properly.
That is why i have said lucifer is not the name of Satan, because at the very inset GOD TOLD THE PROPHET to take the PROVERB ( a fictious illustration) unto the king of BABYLON. GOD was illustrating to the king what he in his heart had become like. That story had nothing to do with SATAN, BUT the kings present mind set, how his heart was so elivated ?
Anyway the bible is full of different types of language used in expressing truths, metaphors, symbolic, analogies, parables, proverbs, the spirit of truth guides us through these things, for us to get the proper understandings. IMO
peace and love to you and. ……………..gene
March 8, 2015 at 8:12 am#790294kerwinParticipantGene,
Merriam-Websters is a Webster’s dictionary and it does not say that. I provided a link to support my claim. Which Webster’s are you using?
March 8, 2015 at 8:19 am#790300NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
FICTIOUS is not found in Websters.
March 8, 2015 at 8:20 am#790301NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
So all of the bible is truth EXCEPT the parables?
March 9, 2015 at 4:26 am#790374GeneBalthropParticipantNick…. “FICTIOUS” IS TO FOUND THERE. I QUOTED IT DIRECTLY FROM WEBSTERS. BUT EVEN COMMON SENSE SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT. ESPICALLY WHAT JESUS SAID ABOUT THEM. Look i never said they do no relate or express a Truth to us, your misunderstanding me again. I have said they “the story itself” must be understood properly, it can not be taken literally, the story itself is fictious, not what it relates to if understood it properly. Surely you know this.
peace and love to you and yours. ………….gene
March 9, 2015 at 4:47 am#790375GeneBalthropParticipantNick and kerwin……A PARABLE…..FULL DEFINITION, “EXAMPLE”. “SPECIFICALLY”, a usually short “FICTIOUS” story that illustrates a moral atitude or a religious principle.
This is WORD FOR WORD COPIED FROM BING SEARCH FOR THE DEFINITION OF PARABLE.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene
March 9, 2015 at 6:45 am#790377NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
The bible of Gene certainly is different.
March 9, 2015 at 7:26 am#790379NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
I suggest you take a little more time and a little more care of scripture if you are a servant.
Your tired old dogmas do not carry any weight anymore.
March 9, 2015 at 7:29 am#790380NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
You offer that all should be taught by God but when you are shown scripture you ignore it to justify your own ideas.
Go back to basics and let yourself be taught.
March 9, 2015 at 10:11 am#790385kerwinParticipantGene,
I believe you are looking at an outdated definition as others claim the same and a Google search of the phrase pulls up the entry which does have the word fictitious in it. I am not sure why they changed it though I expect it was because of controversy. They were not saying that all parable are fictitious so is not evidence Jesus used a fictitious story to make his point.
You keep ignoring the fact that many of his hearers believed it was a real place.
March 9, 2015 at 1:14 pm#790387GeneBalthropParticipantKerwin……Yes and many of his hearers THOUGHT he was talking about a real sower sowing real seeds in a field, when they heard him give the parable of the sower, so do you believe that also?, The definition i gave of what a parable is is exactly accurate i stand by it Completely.
Jesus clearly said why he spoke to peopke in parables, why don’t you and Nick go read it for your selfs, and see if what i said is wrong. As far as words being changed over time that has happened a lot, that is what abridging dictionarys do they change meanings according to what people are thinking about a word at the time the dictionary is written, a good example, take the word FAITH, they no longer us the word “EVIDENCE”, DESPITE WHAT SCRIPTURES SAY IT MEANS.
Do you And Nick suppose a parable is the same as a “true” story, common sense should tell you they are not or they would not be called parabLes now would they?, instead of taking offense at what i said, and treating me like i ignorant of what scriptures say., why don’t you research it. Start by what Jesus himself said why he spoke in parables, you will find he did it to HIDE the truth from those not being called.
peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene
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