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- February 12, 2012 at 4:54 am#277403davidParticipant
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,09:45) Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,08:26) Does the Bible ever say: “the holy spirit is my God,” or “holy spirit the God” or “the holy spirit my God”?
Hi David,Heb 12:5-9 My son, despise not thou the chastening of the LORD, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
6 For whom the LORD loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure
chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence:
shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
How do either of these things help your argument?February 12, 2012 at 5:09 am#277409Ed JParticipantHi David,
Is “God the Father” the father of his “HolySpirit”?
And does the bible not say that the “HolySpirit”
is the responsible party for Jesus' conception?Also note that Eph.4:4-6 spells it out pretty clearly that YHVH dwells in his children,
perhaps you are having trouble seeing this do to the muddied waters you've been taught?“God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them” (2 Cor 6:16)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgFebruary 12, 2012 at 3:33 pm#277522GeneBalthropParticipantEd j…………….indeed the word of God is GOD'S Spirit or LOGOS same thing. Jesus plainly said the WORDS I am telling you “ARE” Spirit and “ARE” Life. So the Logos, God, who is a Spirit are all one and the same thing. This is how God the FATHER is (IN) Us by his very own LOGOS the same LOGOS that was (IN) Jesus can also be (IN) US> You have that right ED J.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………gene
February 12, 2012 at 3:41 pm#277524mikeboll64BlockedGene,
Come give a response in my new thread entitled “Who said the words of John 17:5?”.
Thanks.
February 12, 2012 at 5:12 pm#277534GeneBalthropParticipantMike………..Jesus said them So what is the problem with that? He had a Predestined GLORY Given him by GOD before he ever existed or ever came into being, Just as Cyrus the King Did, and others as Jeremiah. Produce a Scripture where Jesus ever said He “PREEXISTED” Before his berth on the Earth as any kind of BEING. The Key word here is “PREEXISTED as a Sentinel BEING” not as a figment of your preexistences mind. Who try so desperately to “SEPARATE” JESUS from OUR own HUMAN Identity. You glorify Jesus not as a Son of Man but as a “MORPHED” Angel, I glorify him as a Son of MAN Created by GOD to be the Perfect HUMAN BEING and brought into existence at his berth, who was Prophesied all through Scriptures to come, I see him Just as GOD described Him and the Prophets also.Mike and Jesus saw himself as a SON OF MAN also over 70 or 80 times even when he returns he said it would be the “SON OF MAN”. But you see a MORPHED Angel retuning right?
peace and love…………………………………………………….gene
February 13, 2012 at 6:45 am#277711Ed JParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 13 2012,01:33) Ed j…………….indeed the word of God is GOD'S Spirit or LOGOS same thing. Jesus plainly said the WORDS I am telling you “ARE” Spirit and “ARE” Life. So the Logos, God, who is a Spirit are all one and the same thing. This is how God the FATHER is (IN) Us by his very own LOGOS the same LOGOS that was (IN) Jesus can also be (IN) US> You have that right ED J. peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………gene
February 13, 2012 at 8:11 am#277724Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,15:09) Hi David, Is “God the Father” the father of his “HolySpirit”?
And does the bible not say that the “HolySpirit”
is the responsible party for Jesus' conception?Also note that Eph.4:4-6 spells it out pretty clearly that YHVH dwells in his children,
perhaps you are having trouble seeing this do to the muddied waters you've been taught?“God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them” (2 Cor 6:16)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Everyone,“The Word” has birthed all believers with the “HolySpirit”.
the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14)
compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Rom.8:18)The Word of the oath, which was since the law,
maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28)1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
incorruptible, by “The Word” of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.Of his own will begat he us with “The Word” of truth,
that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18)“God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them” (2 Cor 6:16)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 28, 2012 at 1:15 am#304379Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,07:38) To All, These are the verses that PROVE “The Word” is REALLY The HolySpirit”!
Zech.4:6
Zech.12:1Matt.13:19
Mark 4:14
Mark13:11
Mark 13:19
Luke 3:2
Luke 8:11
John 12:49
John 14:24
John 17:6-8
John 17:14
Acts 4:31
Acts 10:36-38
Acts 10:44
Acts 11:15-16
Acts 13:4-5
Acts 13:47-49
Acts 17:11
Acts 20:32
Romans 9:5-6
Romans 10:17
1Cor. 12:8-9
1Cor. 14:36
2Cor. 5:19
2Cor. 6:6-7
Gal.6:6
Eph. 1:12-13
Eph. 5:26
Eph. 6:17
Phillip.2:16
1Tm.5:17-18
2Tm.2:11-15
2Tm.4:2
Hebrews 1:1-2
Hebrews 2:2-3
Hebrews 4:2-6
Hebrews 4:8-12
Hebrews 5:13-14
Hebrews 7:28
Hebrews 11:3
Hebrews 12:19
James 1:18
1Peter 1:21-23
1Peter 2:6-8
1John 2:7-10
Rev.1:2
Rev.1:9
Rev.19:11-16
Rev.20:4God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Bump for PierreJune 28, 2012 at 2:12 am#304381terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,19:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,07:38) To All, These are the verses that PROVE “The Word” is REALLY The HolySpirit”!
Zech.4:6
Zech.12:1Matt.13:19
Mark 4:14
Mark13:11
Mark 13:19
Luke 3:2
Luke 8:11
John 12:49
John 14:24
John 17:6-8
John 17:14
Acts 4:31
Acts 10:36-38
Acts 10:44
Acts 11:15-16
Acts 13:4-5
Acts 13:47-49
Acts 17:11
Acts 20:32
Romans 9:5-6
Romans 10:17
1Cor. 12:8-9
1Cor. 14:36
2Cor. 5:19
2Cor. 6:6-7
Gal.6:6
Eph. 1:12-13
Eph. 5:26
Eph. 6:17
Phillip.2:16
1Tm.5:17-18
2Tm.2:11-15
2Tm.4:2
Hebrews 1:1-2
Hebrews 2:2-3
Hebrews 4:2-6
Hebrews 4:8-12
Hebrews 5:13-14
Hebrews 7:28
Hebrews 11:3
Hebrews 12:19
James 1:18
1Peter 1:21-23
1Peter 2:6-8
1John 2:7-10
Rev.1:2
Rev.1:9
Rev.19:11-16
Rev.20:4God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Bump for Pierre
EdjAll those scriptures you quoting in there context prove that the holy spirit his NOT !THE WORD OF GOD and so CHRIST THE SON OF GOD,
The holy spirit is always attached to the power of action and the action attached to the will of God ,
For those two reasons it is impossible for the holy spirit to be any ones ,it is only a tool in Gods hands
So read your bible over again because you have mist the most important thing and that is ,the acceptance and the recognition of the coming of Christ into the world send by God his father ,became veste of flesh trough his birth from a women ,to save men by given up that flesh and blood ,before he was the first creation but after his resurrection he became the only begotten son of God his father ,and is now sitting with his father on his father throne ,this only means that he receive all powers to do his fathers will.
June 28, 2012 at 2:03 pm#304415WakeupParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 13 2012,01:33) Ed j…………….indeed the word of God is GOD'S Spirit or LOGOS same thing. Jesus plainly said the WORDS I am telling you “ARE” Spirit and “ARE” Life. So the Logos, God, who is a Spirit are all one and the same thing. This is how God the FATHER is (IN) Us by his very own LOGOS the same LOGOS that was (IN) Jesus can also be (IN) US> You have that right ED J. peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………gene
Geneb'; has not anwered my question:
What or who ia satan in job??wakeup.
July 27, 2012 at 3:41 pm#307322carmelParticipantQuote All these verses together PROVE that “The Word” is REALLY the HolySpirit”! Edj,
Since through you carnal corrupted filthy wisdom like all of us SINFULL HUMANS, you concluded that the HOLY SPIRIT is “THE WORD” of God.
Define the difference between:
THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD!!
What is the Spirit of GOD since it is a direct reference to GOD???
What is the Holy Spirit since it is NOT a direct reference to GOD???
Also: show scriptures which confirms that the HOLY SPIRIT ( who is within us) became FLESH.
Peace and love in JesusCharles
July 27, 2012 at 5:28 pm#307328terrariccaParticipantCharles
Good point ,
July 27, 2012 at 11:51 pm#307341Ed JParticipantQuote (carmel @ July 28 2012,02:41) Edj, (1)What is the Spirit of GOD since it is a direct reference to GOD???
(2)What is the Holy Spirit since it is NOT a direct reference to GOD???
Also: show scriptures which confirms that the HOLY SPIRIT ( who is within us) became FLESH.
Peace and love in JesusCharles
Hi Charles,1) God's spirit
2) God's spiritJohn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 27, 2012 at 11:51 pm#307342Ed JParticipantQuote (carmel @ July 28 2012,02:41) Quote All these verses together PROVE that “The Word” is REALLY the HolySpirit”!
Edj,you concluded that the HOLY SPIRIT is “THE WORD” of God.
Charles
Hi Charles,That's because that “IS” what the bible is teaching.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 27, 2012 at 11:52 pm#307343Ed JParticipantQuote (carmel @ July 28 2012,02:41) Edj, Define the difference between:
THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD!!Charles
Hi Charles,No difference.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 28, 2012 at 12:05 am#307349WakeupParticipantQuote (carmel @ July 28 2012,02:41) Quote All these verses together PROVE that “The Word” is REALLY the HolySpirit”! Edj,
Since through you carnal corrupted filthy wisdom like all of us SINFULL HUMANS, you concluded that the HOLY SPIRIT is “THE WORD” of God.
Define the difference between:
THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD!!
What is the Spirit of GOD since it is a direct reference to GOD???
What is the Holy Spirit since it is NOT a direct reference to GOD???
Also: show scriptures which confirms that the HOLY SPIRIT ( who is within us) became FLESH.
Peace and love in JesusCharles
carmel.The holy spirit is IN THE WORD.
Like the sugar is IN the coffee.
The spirit of truth is in the word.
John16:7—16.
The comforter= the holy spirit= the spirit of truth.When you are given the spirit of truth,you will know the truth.
Just like the apostles were given the spirit of truth at pantecost; and they began to preach the truth; wich they could not understand jesus parables before.They could not understand what Jesus was talking about,untill Jesus send them the spirit of truth.(the comforter).
The holy spirit is always about giving us the truth
Without the spirit of truth we can never find the truth.The spirit of truth will glorify Jesus. John16:14.and he will receive of Jesus,and the spirit of truth will glorify him.
wakeup.
July 28, 2012 at 12:27 am#307353terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,17:52) Quote (carmel @ July 28 2012,02:41) Edj, Define the difference between:
THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD!!Charles
Hi Charles,No difference.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyou do it again,telling stories and two different things one thing ,
it is your mind that does that NOT SCRIPTURES
July 28, 2012 at 12:54 am#307357WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,11:27) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,17:52) Quote (carmel @ July 28 2012,02:41) Edj, Define the difference between:
THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD!!Charles
Hi Charles,No difference.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyou do it again,telling stories and two different things one thing ,
it is your mind that does that NOT SCRIPTURES
Terra.Can we just discus scriptures with out wasting time in accusing each other?
wakeup.
July 28, 2012 at 12:57 am#307358Ed JParticipantHi Pierre,
“Ye shall receive power, after that the HolySpirit is come upon you” (Acts 1:8)
“ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?” (1 Cor 3:16)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 28, 2012 at 6:17 am#307392carmelParticipantQuote No difference Edj,
HUMBLY SPEAKING,AND FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS:
YOU ARE WRONG:
THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!
Reflect:
John;4:36 And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together. 37And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth.
TWO NOT ONE : ONE SOWS,AND ONE REAPS
1 John 5:6 This is he that came by WATER AND BLOOD, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
NOTICE:
The Father, THE WORD and the HOLY GHOST.
ARE YOU STILL IN DOUBT?? THE WORD IS NOT THE HOLY GHOST!!!
TWO ELEMENTS: WATER AND BLOOD
NOTICE THE EMPHASIS:
NOT BY WATER ONLY, BUT BY WATER AND BLOOD.
What since you are so sure that there's no difference between these two spiritual elements, and in the same time scriptures are telling us that they are
TWO DIFFERENT ELEMENTS???
What are these TWO DIFFERENT ELEMENTS???
What do they represent???
NOW:
the spirit of God is a complex one, since it is a direct reference to GOD. It is not one entity. it is a compound ONE since again it is referring to GOD DIRECTLY.
The Holy Spirit is not compound but a single entity, and thst's why it is not a direct reference to God!!
IT IS ONLY A PARTICULAR ELEMENT OF GOD.IN FACT IT HAS A NAME,OR A TITLE.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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