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Not cool Aid. It's the real thing.
Kool-aid consists of 2 quarts of water, kool-aid mix, and 1 cup of sugar. 1 cup of sugar is 196 grams. 2 quarts of water is 64 fluid ounces. That means that Kool-aid has about 3 grams of sugar per ounce.
An eight ounce can of Coca-cola has about 27 grams of sugar. Which works out to about 3.4 grams of sugar per ounce.
Kool-aid is usually made from real (cane) sugar not corn syrup, and doesn't contain any caffeine.
Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 14 2009,16:36) Quote (t8 @ Sep. 14 2009,16:08) Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 11 2009,05:21) Don't you find it fascinating that all of you little sects disagree with each other wildly BUT YOU ALL AGREE ON ONE THING….YOU CAN'T STAND THE REAL CHURCH.
Actually, the reality is that I do not want to be gullible by accepting a Church that is not the body of Christ.I think we all know deep down that we will know them by their fruits.
The fruit of the RCC is not good. Unless history is wrong, the RCC has a very bad historical record and the fact that some apologies have been made in recent times is an acknowledgement of these bad things by the RCC.
A good tree bears good fruit CA. This is what Jesus taught us.
Is it not better to see the true Church rather than be blinded by the one that shares the same name as the beast if came from?
Your crazy claim is distressing. Not that you are making it. But that you actually believe it.The truth is that the Church has consistently produced the saintliest of men in every generation. From Saint Polycarp of Smyrna who was martyred to Saint Maximilian Kobe who gave his life in the prison of Auschwitz the Church stands apart from the rest as a shining beacon of faith, hope and love.
If the Church hasn't just produced good fruit, but the best.
Don't you find it fascinating that inspite of all of your claims to the contrary, the Church still holds the highest standards of Holiness and Moral purity of any faith on planet earth?
How wrong can you get. Ancient History will tell you the fruit of the Catholic Church, and it is not good.
The first Christians did not keep the trinity. Nowhere in the Bible can you find it. There are several Scriptures however that prove it wrong. Even today you hear bad things that the Priests have done hear in America. Or do you not listen to the news. Many Priests have sexually abused young man.
You call that good fruits?
Scrioptures that prove the trinity wrong are:”
Deut. 4:35
Deut. 6:4
1 Corinth. 8:4
Ephesians 4:6
John 14:28
These and others prove how wrong it is.
Math. 15:9 ” But in vain do they worship me, teaching for the doctrine commandmewnts of men.”
Come out of Her, my People Rev. tells you to do.
We did and have always been thankful to God for it. How about you?
Peace and Love IreneQuote (georg @ Sep. 20 2009,20:13) Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 14 2009,16:36) Quote (t8 @ Sep. 14 2009,16:08) Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 11 2009,05:21) Don't you find it fascinating that all of you little sects disagree with each other wildly BUT YOU ALL AGREE ON ONE THING….YOU CAN'T STAND THE REAL CHURCH.
Actually, the reality is that I do not want to be gullible by accepting a Church that is not the body of Christ.I think we all know deep down that we will know them by their fruits.
The fruit of the RCC is not good. Unless history is wrong, the RCC has a very bad historical record and the fact that some apologies have been made in recent times is an acknowledgement of these bad things by the RCC.
A good tree bears good fruit CA. This is what Jesus taught us.
Is it not better to see the true Church rather than be blinded by the one that shares the same name as the beast if came from?
Your crazy claim is distressing. Not that you are making it. But that you actually believe it.The truth is that the Church has consistently produced the saintliest of men in every generation. From Saint Polycarp of Smyrna who was martyred to Saint Maximilian Kobe who gave his life in the prison of Auschwitz the Church stands apart from the rest as a shining beacon of faith, hope and love.
If the Church hasn't just produced good fruit, but the best.
Don't you find it fascinating that inspite of all of your claims to the contrary, the Church still holds the highest standards of Holiness and Moral purity of any faith on planet earth?
How wrong can you get. Ancient History will tell you the fruit of the Catholic Church, and it is not good.
The first Christians did not keep the trinity. Nowhere in the Bible can you find it. There are several Scriptures however that prove it wrong. Even today you hear bad things that the Priests have done hear in America. Or do you not listen to the news. Many Priests have sexually abused young man.
You call that good fruits?
Scriptures that prove the trinity wrong are:”
Deut. 4:35
Deut. 6:4
1 Corinth. 8:4
Ephesians 4:6
John 14:28
These and others prove how wrong it is.
Math. 15:9 ” But in vain do they worship me, teaching for the doctrine commandmewnts of men.”
Come out of Her, my People Rev. tells you to do.
We did and have always been thankful to God for it. How about you?
Peace and Love Irene
Georg,
The scriptures you gave do not prove the trinity wrong.Deut. 4:35: It says that the Lord Himself is ELOHIM which is plural. Example: Elohim said “Let US make man in OUR image.”
Deut. 6:4: It says that Elohim (plural) is one Lord. It does NOT say one God. Example: God and Christ are called “one Lord” in the new testament.
1 Corinth. 8:4: Read through to verse 6 which says ALL THINGS ARE THROUGH BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON.
Ephesians 4:6: It says that the Father is above all. But Paul said that Christ is “BEFORE ALL” which means the same thing. He said also that Jesus is “ALL IN ALL” (Colossians 1:17 & 3:11)
John 14:28: The Father WAS greater than Him when He was in the flesh. Jesus has since returned to the glory He had with His Father since the world began. You are twisting the scriptures.
thinker
Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 20 2009,14:15) wolf, blessed be, boy. comparing the kingdom to prayer………….
kol tuv
Actually comparing angelic prayer to human prayer…What??
wdkoltuvm (What does “kol tuv” mean?)
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 10 2009,15:03) Yes the trinity doctrine is ancient.
As ancient as Babylon & Egypt.
Also, the Queen of Heaven and child date back to Babylon.
It is also interesting to note that the Babylonians believed the following:
- The Queen of Heaven (mother of God)
- A Trinity
- Eternal torment after this life, i.e., not death but life in pain forever.
All 3 are foundational teachings of the RCC.
“Nimrod and his mother (Semiramis) became the chief entities of worship as a Madonna and child. This belief and practice spread to Egypt, where the names of the gods were Isis and Osiris. The son Osiris was born December 25.
In Asia it was Cybele and Deonius. In Rome they were called Fortuna and Jupiter. Throughout the world we still find the remnants of mother and child worship to this day.
It is no surprise that this same system still exists at the end of the age. It is called “Mystery Babylon” (Rev 17:5).
Shockingly, it is disguised as Christianity and is still practiced in the celebration of Christmas.”
–The Bible as History
by Werner Keller
t8 I just love the way you have brought out the truth. Just like Mr. Armstrong used to do. Oh, yes. No it was not a cult. We belonged to that Church for 10 years and learned to read the Bible there. After Mr. Armstriong died however, soon after the Church went back to believing in the trinity doctrine, and we left and never belonged to another Church. Only to visit with our Son in the Baptist Church. And for a while we went to Bible Study there. I do miss the fellowship.
That is why I like this site. And thank you for all.
Peace and Love Irenesyncretism
Syncretism is the process by which elements of one religion are assimilated into another religion resulting in a change in the fundamental tenets or nature of those religions. It is the union of two or more opposite beliefs, so that the synthesized form is a new thing. It is not always a total fusion, but may be a combination of separate segments that remain identifiable compartments. Originally a political term, “syncretism” was used to describe the joining together of rival Greek forces on the Isle of Crete in opposition to a common enemy.
The NT was born in a melee as rulers sought to blend cultures through syncretistic monotheism, all forms of the same God. All the gods of Egypt, Persia, and Babylon became Greek. The influence of Mani spread from Africa to China. Esoteric knowledge vied with unique, historical revelation. Rome harbored all cults and mystery religions. Antioch, Ephesus, and Corinth each boasted syncretistic gods seeking to absorb the church. NT confrontations include Simon Magus, the Jerusalem Council, the Epistle to the Colossians, combating Jewish thought mixed with early Gnosticism, and the rebuke of the church at Pergamum. Against these forces the church developed its creeds, canon, and celebrations. The Christmas celebration date was set over against the festival of the birth of the sun god, Sol Invictus, in protest against a major attempt to create a syncretistic imperial religion.
Visser't Hooft discusses the many syncretistic pressures of the NT times exerted by Judaism, Gnosticism, emperor worship, and the mystery cults. It is helpful to study the books of Hebrews, 1 John, and the Revelation from the perspective of defending against syncretism. The NT canon and the recognized creed became the church's two greatest weapons against the growth and transmission of syncretism. Church history is filled with the struggle against syncretism from political, social, religious, and economic sources.
S R Imbach
Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 21 2009,12:39) kol tuv/hebrew = 'all the best to you'
Thanks! May God bring you to truth as well.Quote (t8 @ Sep. 20 2009,19:01) Not cool Aid. It's the real thing. Kool-aid consists of 2 quarts of water, kool-aid mix, and 1 cup of sugar. 1 cup of sugar is 196 grams. 2 quarts of water is 64 fluid ounces. That means that Kool-aid has about 3 grams of sugar per ounce.
An eight ounce can of Coca-cola has about 27 grams of sugar. Which works out to about 3.4 grams of sugar per ounce.
Kool-aid is usually made from real (cane) sugar not corn syrup, and doesn't contain any caffeine.
You should knowQuote (georg @ Sep. 21 2009,12:38) t8 I just love the way you have brought out the truth. Just like Mr. Armstrong used to do. Oh, yes. No it was not a cult. We belonged to that Church for 10 years and learned to read the Bible there. After Mr. Armstriong died however, soon after the Church went back to believing in the trinity doctrine, and we left and never belonged to another Church. Only to visit with our Son in the Baptist Church. And for a while we went to Bible Study there. I do miss the fellowship.
That is why I like this site. And thank you for all.
Peace and Love Irene
Armstrong? O my goodness, not THAT guy.Well, the last time I checked the Moonies are still holding servies…
Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 21 2009,12:48) syncretism Syncretism is the process by which elements of one religion are assimilated into another religion resulting in a change in the fundamental tenets or nature of those religions. It is the union of two or more opposite beliefs, so that the synthesized form is a new thing. It is not always a total fusion, but may be a combination of separate segments that remain identifiable compartments. Originally a political term, “syncretism” was used to describe the joining together of rival Greek forces on the Isle of Crete in opposition to a common enemy.
The NT was born in a melee as rulers sought to blend cultures through syncretistic monotheism, all forms of the same God. All the gods of Egypt, Persia, and Babylon became Greek. The influence of Mani spread from Africa to China. Esoteric knowledge vied with unique, historical revelation. Rome harbored all cults and mystery religions. Antioch, Ephesus, and Corinth each boasted syncretistic gods seeking to absorb the church. NT confrontations include Simon Magus, the Jerusalem Council, the Epistle to the Colossians, combating Jewish thought mixed with early Gnosticism, and the rebuke of the church at Pergamum. Against these forces the church developed its creeds, canon, and celebrations. The Christmas celebration date was set over against the festival of the birth of the sun god, Sol Invictus, in protest against a major attempt to create a syncretistic imperial religion.
Visser't Hooft discusses the many syncretistic pressures of the NT times exerted by Judaism, Gnosticism, emperor worship, and the mystery cults. It is helpful to study the books of Hebrews, 1 John, and the Revelation from the perspective of defending against syncretism. The NT canon and the recognized creed became the church's two greatest weapons against the growth and transmission of syncretism. Church history is filled with the struggle against syncretism from political, social, religious, and economic sources.
S R Imbach
A modern day example of syncretism with Catholic beliefs could be found in modern day Haiti: vodoo. The only thing is that what is produced in the end is NOT Catholicism, but demon worship and posession. Something entirely opposed to the faith.To say that syncretism is possible to the extent that it could take over and control the visible Church that Jesus started is quite a statement. It would make Jesus a liar when He said that the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church. The Church is indefectible by definition and design.
Hi CA,
Another one is the church of Constantine-catholicism.
The sons of God are not bound by the gates of Hades.
Catholicism does not produce sons for God but for itselfQuote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 18 2009,13:53) Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2009,13:44) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 18 2009,04:29) Quote (Gene @ Sep. 18 2009,04:00) CA…..Your poison will not work on those who are lead by the Spirit of GOD, they don't follow a papa, they follow the SON of the LIVING GOD, and give glory to who He gave all The Glory to, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. Your teachings of traditions and rituals and Chantings mean nothing Here, You can invoke them but they mean nothing to Us who are lead by the SPIRIT of the “ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD”. That is who we follow not some self proclaimed father called papa. WE know the sound of ONLY ONE SHEPPARD, and he is not a papa of a false triune religion. IMO gene
Gene,
You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord?thinker
LORD or Lord.It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord.
And yet the oldest Greek manuscripts were miniscules (lower case). So I guess we didn't get that type of clarification from the NT. I guess you'll have to ask the Church that God used to pen Scripture to get your answer.
CA……..Wrong the oldest Greek manuscripts were (ALL) written in (UPPER) CASE, Lower case did not start until 700 AD some say 900 AD. But beyond a doubt the originals were all written in upper case letters. So oops there goes another false trinitarian teaching. And guess what i did not have to ask any Church for that information Just looked it up on the Net, anyone can find it, its common knowledge available to anyone. You don't have to follow papa or his “church” to get that info. IMOgene
CA said:
Quote It would make Jesus a liar when He said that the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church. The Church is indefectible by definition and design. This is why the enemy has not been able to displace Christ from His throne. He said, “I will build MY Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.”
Christ said that we are His own Church. This makes Him an usurper according to the logic of many here. Trinitarianism is here to stay despite the puny and insignificant revolt of many here.
thinker
Hi TT,
The pope is not your lord.
The church of Jesus is founded on the rock of truth.
Catholicism sinks by the weight of her own substituted lord and false teachings.thinker said to Gene:
Quote Gene,
You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord?t8 replied:
Quote LORD or Lord. It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord.
But it was Jesus who made Himself servant (Philippians 2). Get my point?
thinker
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