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Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 16 2009,19:33) Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 16 2009,13:29) wolf, my answer would be empty to you, as your answers will be for me. for you are one that claims to have the spirit but cannot listen to it, your church can only do this, they think you have been given an unsound mind.
is the reason you went into her arms is due to you could not be the created man Yahweh wanted you to be?
what emptiness you would have without your church, how dead you would feel without your church.
oh what would you do wolf, if you only had scriptures to read and no one telling you what they meant.
Jezebel,Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, which thou hast defied.
The Lord rebuke you
There are 2 threads in which BD has called the pope your Father and you have not responded to either, is the pope your Father?I am starting to really see the damage of the trinity although I wasn't believing the trinity before, I had believed that Jesus was the Father in the flesh but now I know different so is the pope your Father “Catholic Apologist”?
the wolf is in fear……………..the shepherd is near.
For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any double-edged sword, piercing until it divides soul and spirit, joints and marrow, as it judges the thoughts and purposes of the heart. No creature can hide from him, but all are naked and helpless before the eyes of the one to whom we must give a word of explanation. Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Yashua the Son of Yahweh, let us continue to hold on to our confession.
*******HEBREW 4.12-14
selahHi,
I have yet to meet anyone who prays to a trinity god.
They choose one of the “members” to pray to.
Why is there this inconsistency?CA…..Your poison will not work on those who are lead by the Spirit of GOD, they don't follow a papa, they follow the SON of the LIVING GOD, and give glory to who He gave all The Glory to, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. Your teachings of traditions and rituals and Chantings mean nothing Here, You can invoke them but they mean nothing to Us who are lead by the SPIRIT of the “ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD”. That is who we follow not some self proclaimed father called papa. WE know the sound of ONLY ONE SHEPPARD, and he is not a papa of a false triune religion. IMO
gene
Quote (Gene @ Sep. 18 2009,04:00) CA…..Your poison will not work on those who are lead by the Spirit of GOD, they don't follow a papa, they follow the SON of the LIVING GOD, and give glory to who He gave all The Glory to, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. Your teachings of traditions and rituals and Chantings mean nothing Here, You can invoke them but they mean nothing to Us who are lead by the SPIRIT of the “ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD”. That is who we follow not some self proclaimed father called papa. WE know the sound of ONLY ONE SHEPPARD, and he is not a papa of a false triune religion. IMO gene
Gene,
You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord?thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 16 2009,21:16) Hi CA,
Not really.
You put aside the teachings of the Lord God for those of men.
And you adopt the words of Bildad who God condemned thus putting God's word aside. Take the beam out of your own eye.thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 18 2009,04:29) Quote (Gene @ Sep. 18 2009,04:00) CA…..Your poison will not work on those who are lead by the Spirit of GOD, they don't follow a papa, they follow the SON of the LIVING GOD, and give glory to who He gave all The Glory to, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. Your teachings of traditions and rituals and Chantings mean nothing Here, You can invoke them but they mean nothing to Us who are lead by the SPIRIT of the “ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD”. That is who we follow not some self proclaimed father called papa. WE know the sound of ONLY ONE SHEPPARD, and he is not a papa of a false triune religion. IMO gene
Gene,
You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord?thinker
No one has to deny that Jesus is lord for indeed he is lord. However Jesus is not The Lord God and you know it. The word lord is not equal to the word God otherwise why would the Shema say The Lord God is One Lord?Jesus is Lord of the Christian Church not the Lord God. If you say that Jesus is The Lord God you lie.
To say ONE LORD is a person of One and not three to say The Lord God is to exclude any persons other than One.
Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 17 2009,08:07) the wolf is in fear……………..the shepherd is near. For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any double-edged sword, piercing until it divides soul and spirit, joints and marrow, as it judges the thoughts and purposes of the heart. No creature can hide from him, but all are naked and helpless before the eyes of the one to whom we must give a word of explanation. Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Yashua the Son of Yahweh, let us continue to hold on to our confession.
*******HEBREW 4.12-14
selah
Wasn't Jezebel the one who wanted to put the prophet of God to death?Yet she was eaten by dogs. Is this where you get your preoccupation with wolves?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 18 2009,09:21) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 18 2009,04:29) Quote (Gene @ Sep. 18 2009,04:00) CA…..Your poison will not work on those who are lead by the Spirit of GOD, they don't follow a papa, they follow the SON of the LIVING GOD, and give glory to who He gave all The Glory to, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. Your teachings of traditions and rituals and Chantings mean nothing Here, You can invoke them but they mean nothing to Us who are lead by the SPIRIT of the “ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD”. That is who we follow not some self proclaimed father called papa. WE know the sound of ONLY ONE SHEPPARD, and he is not a papa of a false triune religion. IMO gene
Gene,
You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord?thinker
No one has to deny that Jesus is lord for indeed he is lord. However Jesus is not The Lord God and you know it. The word lord is not equal to the word God otherwise why would the Shema say The Lord God is One Lord?Jesus is Lord of the Christian Church not the Lord God. If you say that Jesus is The Lord God you lie.
To say ONE LORD is a person of One and not three to say The Lord God is to exclude any persons other than One.
Either the Bible is accurate or it is not. Make up your mind. Please stop quoting it until you do.Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 18 2009,04:29) Quote (Gene @ Sep. 18 2009,04:00) CA…..Your poison will not work on those who are lead by the Spirit of GOD, they don't follow a papa, they follow the SON of the LIVING GOD, and give glory to who He gave all The Glory to, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. Your teachings of traditions and rituals and Chantings mean nothing Here, You can invoke them but they mean nothing to Us who are lead by the SPIRIT of the “ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD”. That is who we follow not some self proclaimed father called papa. WE know the sound of ONLY ONE SHEPPARD, and he is not a papa of a false triune religion. IMO gene
Gene,
You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord?thinker
LORD or Lord.It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord.
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2009,13:44) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 18 2009,04:29) Quote (Gene @ Sep. 18 2009,04:00) CA…..Your poison will not work on those who are lead by the Spirit of GOD, they don't follow a papa, they follow the SON of the LIVING GOD, and give glory to who He gave all The Glory to, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. Your teachings of traditions and rituals and Chantings mean nothing Here, You can invoke them but they mean nothing to Us who are lead by the SPIRIT of the “ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD”. That is who we follow not some self proclaimed father called papa. WE know the sound of ONLY ONE SHEPPARD, and he is not a papa of a false triune religion. IMO gene
Gene,
You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord?thinker
LORD or Lord.It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord.
And yet the oldest Greek manuscripts were miniscules (lower case). So I guess we didn't get that type of clarification from the NT. I guess you'll have to ask the Church that God used to pen Scripture to get your answer.Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 18 2009,13:53) Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2009,13:44) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 18 2009,04:29) Quote (Gene @ Sep. 18 2009,04:00) CA…..Your poison will not work on those who are lead by the Spirit of GOD, they don't follow a papa, they follow the SON of the LIVING GOD, and give glory to who He gave all The Glory to, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. Your teachings of traditions and rituals and Chantings mean nothing Here, You can invoke them but they mean nothing to Us who are lead by the SPIRIT of the “ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD”. That is who we follow not some self proclaimed father called papa. WE know the sound of ONLY ONE SHEPPARD, and he is not a papa of a false triune religion. IMO gene
Gene,
You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord?thinker
LORD or Lord.It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord.
And yet the oldest Greek manuscripts were miniscules (lower case). So I guess we didn't get that type of clarification from the NT. I guess you'll have to ask the Church that God used to pen Scripture to get your answer.
CA,
Gene and t8 engage in double speak. There is only ONE King of kings and Lord of lords and that is Jesus Christ. They allow for TWO Lords and then fault trinitarians for their belief in the trinity.
thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 18 2009,14:56) Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 18 2009,13:53) Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2009,13:44) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 18 2009,04:29) Quote (Gene @ Sep. 18 2009,04:00) CA…..Your poison will not work on those who are lead by the Spirit of GOD, they don't follow a papa, they follow the SON of the LIVING GOD, and give glory to who He gave all The Glory to, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. Your teachings of traditions and rituals and Chantings mean nothing Here, You can invoke them but they mean nothing to Us who are lead by the SPIRIT of the “ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD”. That is who we follow not some self proclaimed father called papa. WE know the sound of ONLY ONE SHEPPARD, and he is not a papa of a false triune religion. IMO gene
Gene,
You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord?thinker
LORD or Lord.It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord.
And yet the oldest Greek manuscripts were miniscules (lower case). So I guess we didn't get that type of clarification from the NT. I guess you'll have to ask the Church that God used to pen Scripture to get your answer.
CA,
Gene and t8 engage in double speak. There is only ONE King of kings and Lord of lords and that is Jesus Christ. They allow for TWO Lords and then fault trinitarians for their belief in the trinity.thinker
If there is One Lord, how many persons is that?Quote (RokkaMan @ Sep. 17 2009,04:08) Quote (t8 @ Sep. 16 2009,18:42) And why is God as well as Jesus mentioned?
That alone proves that God and Jesus are different identities.
Uhh? Trinitarian view agrees with you.Same being, different identity…lol
Wrong.It is saying God and Jesus, not the Father and Jesus. God and Jesus are identied as different identities.
According to your doctrine, there are four persons.
The Trinity 3 + Jesus.You are preaching the Quadrinity and don't even know it.
Quote (CatholicApologist @ Aug. 28 2009,06:29) The Letter of Barnabas “And further, my brethren, if the Lord [Jesus] endured to suffer for our soul, he being the Lord of all the world, to whom God said at the foundation of the world, ‘Let us make man after our image, and after our likeness,’ understand how it was that he endured to suffer at the hand of men” (Letter of Barnabas 5 [A.D. 74] emphasis added).
What is it really saying.1) First off, God and Jesus are different.
2) God created all through Christ his Word.We also know that it was God that made Jesus both Lord and Christ.
I have noticed that Trinitarians claim that the Fathers were Trinitarians, and yet all I see is Trinitarians taking their words out of context most of the time as they do with the apostles and Jesus.
Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 14 2009,16:36) Quote (t8 @ Sep. 14 2009,16:08) Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 11 2009,05:21) Don't you find it fascinating that all of you little sects disagree with each other wildly BUT YOU ALL AGREE ON ONE THING….YOU CAN'T STAND THE REAL CHURCH.
Actually, the reality is that I do not want to be gullible by accepting a Church that is not the body of Christ.I think we all know deep down that we will know them by their fruits.
The fruit of the RCC is not good. Unless history is wrong, the RCC has a very bad historical record and the fact that some apologies have been made in recent times is an acknowledgement of these bad things by the RCC.
A good tree bears good fruit CA. This is what Jesus taught us.
Is it not better to see the true Church rather than be blinded by the one that shares the same name as the beast if came from?
Your crazy claim is distressing. Not that you are making it. But that you actually believe it.The truth is that the Church has consistently produced the saintliest of men in every generation. From Saint Polycarp of Smyrna who was martyred to Saint Maximilian Kobe who gave his life in the prison of Auschwitz the Church stands apart from the rest as a shining beacon of faith, hope and love.
If the Church hasn't just produced good fruit, but the best.
Don't you find it fascinating that inspite of all of your claims to the contrary, the Church still holds the highest standards of Holiness and Moral purity of any faith on planet earth?
That is certainly debatable. How many people have they burned at the stake again? How many were thrown into prison because they spoke the truth? Jesus said that if his Kingdom were of the world then he could have people fighting for him, but his Kingdom was not of this world. The RCC is of this world and they have persecuted millions and murdered God knows how many people.Even if they hold to a form of godliness, it doesn't mean they are of God. Even Satan can appear as an angel of light.
TO ALL……….unless we (understand) that there is (ONLY) ONE TRUE GOD. And that he can (INDWELL) ALL. We can never get the right understandings of scriptures nor of what Jesus Spoke. God (HIMSELF) said “YOU SHALL HAVE (NO) OTHER GOD (BESIDES) ME”. JESUS SAID “THOU ART THE (ONLY) TRUE GOD. Now if that is not cemented into our minds, we simply can not go forward in truth. If you don't have the very basic understanding how can you have the rest? You must reject what these deluded TRINITARIANS say it only adds to confusion and stops the advancement of the truth of and about GOD> IMO
peace and love to you all………………….gene
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2009,00:37) That is certainly debatable. How many people have they burned at the stake again? How many were thrown into prison because they spoke the truth? Jesus said that if his Kingdom were of the world then he could have people fighting for him, but his Kingdom was not of this world. The RCC is of this world and they have persecuted millions and murdered God knows how many people. Even if they hold to a form of godliness, it doesn't mean they are of God. Even Satan can appear as an angel of light.
There you go pulling out that Koolade website stuff. You like those sites. It sure does have to be fanciful to get your attention. Maybe I'm just to boring for you….No unicorns or cyclops to get your attention.Have you ever even BEEN to the Vatican website to actually learn what it is that we DO believe? Just pulling one historical source out of the air for you. But go and read The Ecclesiastical History of the English Nation by the Venerable Bede. You can see what was going on in England for example in the first seven centuries A.D.
It would be a good idea for you to see just what it was that the English “Reformers” were rebelling against and what King Henry VIII destroyed.
Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 18 2009,10:24) Wasn't Jezebel the one who wanted to put the prophet of God to death? Yet she was eaten by dogs. Is this where you get your preoccupation with wolves?
how many hail mary's/our fathers did that one take you?
wasn't enough.
when praying do not keep on babbling like the gentiles for they think they shall be heard for their many words
mat 6.7Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 19 2009,14:21) Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 18 2009,10:24) Wasn't Jezebel the one who wanted to put the prophet of God to death? Yet she was eaten by dogs. Is this where you get your preoccupation with wolves?
how many hail mary's/our fathers did that one take you?
wasn't enough.
when praying do not keep on babbling like the gentiles for they think they shall be heard for their many words
mat 6.7
I think it is hilarious how you think you're “ringing a bell” with me or something. You really think you have me pegged. Well you absolutely do not. I wonder how you will feel when the Lord shows you that so much of what you were taught about His Church was a lie.“And the four living creatures had each of them six wings; and round about and within they are full of eyes. And they rested not day and night, saying: Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, who was, and who is, and who is to come.” Rev. 4:8
I suppose you believe that this is vain repetition or babbling like the gentiles, eh?
I, on the other hand, would not want to touch your blasphemy with a ten foot pole.
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