The Trinity Doctrine

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
You should be in him.
Knowing about him is limited by our weak eyes.

[princess of the king]

regarding syncretism,

so it could be taken that the 'truth' had been fused with paganism and came out with what the call the catholic/universal church, hence creed's, cannon's, celebrations, triad worship, idols ect, ect,

for one to call any worldly thing indefectible, the truth is not in them.

[princess of the king]

puny, insignificant…………

blessings are bestowed

[princess of the king]

Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 22 2009,10:17)

Thanks!  May God bring you to truth as well.

cursing is not allowed on this forum, wolf.

[princess of the king]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 22 2009,11:03)

And what a faithful servant he was to his God.

as we should be

[Catholic Apologist]

Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 22 2009,13:33)

Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 22 2009,10:17) Thanks!  May God bring you to truth as well. cursing is not allowed on this forum, wolf.

If you consider the act of asking God to bring another to truth cursing, then what am I doing even talking to you.

Maybe I should ignore you like I do Nick and Gene. I'm certainly having a hard time taking you seriously.

[Catholic Apologist]

Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 22 2009,12:32)

regarding syncretism,   so it could be taken that the 'truth' had been fused with paganism and came out with what the call the catholic/universal church, hence creed's, cannon's, celebrations, triad worship, idols ect, ect, for one to call any worldly thing indefectible, the truth is not in them.

But to call a heavenly thing (the Church) indefectible is quite another thing.

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Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 22 2009,10:18)

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Google knows.

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Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 22 2009,10:58)

Trinitarianism is here to stay despite the puny and insignificant revolt of many here. thinker

Like a mustard seed, for they too are puny and insignificant.

Although if you think that this mustard seed will remain that way, then why bother coming here? Wouldn't it be better to have an impact on something that is significant?

Jesus will come back for a church without spot and blemish and people who are willing to see if it is written in scripture will help expose the fraudulent teachings that have accumulated over the centuries.

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Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 22 2009,11:02)

thinker said to Gene: Quote Gene, You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord? t8 replied: Quote LORD or Lord. It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord. But it was Jesus who made Himself servant (Philippians 2). Get my point? thinker

Your doctrine is confused.

The order of headship is God > Christ > Man > Woman

1 Corinthians 11:3
Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

Not (Father=Son=Holy Spirit) > Mankind

You do err.

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
Revolt against what?
Catholic dogmas?

When will you admit the pope is your true lord?

[Douglas]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2009,16:04)

Your doctrine is confused. The order of headship is God > Christ > Man > Woman 1 Corinthians 11:3 Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

Necessarily disagree whole heartedly with the order of your last two operands especially.

Man = Woman.

Using the bible to perpetuate that outdated nonsense is a mistake in my opinion. Try God != Human.

While I've sat through enough bitter and insulting rants about men in my time (as a man), there is one thing I can't really argue with – if women were significantly more empowered in the world of today it's far more likely we wouldn't be in such a wretched mess as the one we're heading into.

It is a mistake of epic proportions to not only marginalise half of your species and fail to realise their potential, but also to discount the benefits of the feminine perspective for making important decisions (I'm talking globally; before there's a rush of people going on about a limited number of countries).

Now I have to ask, is your doctrine on this what your God tells you, or your bible?

[KangarooJack]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2009,16:04)

Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 22 2009,11:02) thinker said to Gene: Quote Gene, You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord? t8 replied: Quote LORD or Lord. It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord. But it was Jesus who made Himself servant (Philippians 2). Get my point? thinker Your doctrine is confused. The order of headship is God > Christ > Man > Woman 1 Corinthians 11:3 Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Not (Father=Son=Holy Spirit) > Mankind You do err.

So you deny Philippians 2 which says that Christ made Himself a servant? Paul's order of headship was OLD COVENANT my friend. Paul was speaking from the standpoint of the old covenant. We are in the new covenant now. Man and woman are EQUAL. God and Christ are EQUAL.

Think new covenant. Your view that woman is under man in the new covenant is altogether ludicrous. And you imply that Christ has not been exalted.

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
So you decide what applies and what does not according to your dogmas?

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 22 2009,19:49)

Hi TT, So you decide what applies and what does not according to your dogmas?

Hebrews says that when God said “new” covenant the old was passing away.

Hebrews 8:13 (King James Version):
“In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.”

Note that it says that the old covenant was “decaying” and “ready to vanish away.” Do you really believe that women are inferior to men in this dispensation?

My bet is that if you acted like this your wife would knock you upside your head. Mine would. In Christ there is no distinction between man and woman. Paul's order of headship was from the standpoint of the old covenant. In another place he said that it was Moses who instituted the order of headship. Now we know that Moses has been done away.

I forgot, anti-trinitarians rely on the old covenant principles such as the shema and all that stuff.

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
There is only one covenant for you and that is the new established in the blood of the saviour Jesus.
He entered the holy place as priest and poured of his Spirit into his church at Pentecost.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 22 2009,20:17)

Hi TT, There is only one covenant for you and that is the new established in the blood of the saviour Jesus. He entered the holy place as priest and poured of his Spirit into his church at Pentecost.

Amen! But the new covenant is about a new form of worship as well. Worship according to the letter has passed away and has been replaced by worship according to the spirit.

t8's headship thing has also been done away. It was Moses who commanded such headship and Moses has been done away.

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
There is no relationship with God possible outside of the Mediator between God and men, the Man Jesus Christ.
Headship is taught by the Spirit of Christ in Paul to his brothers.
Do not try to divide the body of Christ.

[princess of the king]

Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 22 2009,15:22)

Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 22 2009,13:33) Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 22 2009,10:17) Thanks!  May God bring you to truth as well. cursing is not allowed on this forum, wolf. If you consider the act of asking God to bring another to truth cursing, then what am I doing even talking to you. Maybe I should ignore you like I do Nick and Gene.  I'm certainly having a hard time taking you seriously.

wolf,

you worship what you do not know.

have you thought of any discussion we have had, have you taken anything i have to say 'serious'?

why do you need all the 'junk' inbetween is beyond me, rituals, ceremonies, traditions, icons, prayers, church fathers, that does not get you into the kingdom, your church is set up like a click……if you do this to get in, you  have got it made, this is not play time chad, it is your salvation, don't let anyone take it from you.

[Not3in1]

Princess,

I think it's ridiculous that you are calling CA a “wolf”.
If you are a sister in the Lord, such name calling should be beneath you.

Your fruit is showing.

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