The serpent in the Garden of Eden

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  • #821877
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jodi,

    I know that is what you believe.

    Thank you for your opinion.

    #821878
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jodi,

    Would you have preferred that God had spelled out for you why the serpent was different?

    #821879
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jodi,

    You presume the behaviours of Mankind were not affected by the contact of Adam and Eve with the serpent?

    #821880
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jodi,

    Eve blamed the influence of the serpent.

    Why should you disagree?

    #821881
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jodi,

    Have you seen any extra crafty serpents?

    #821882
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jodi,

    Your theories are all based on doubt and disbelief.

    And you wish to popularise them?

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Jodi….could it be that as God the Father represents the only one that is Truly Good, that Satan also represents what is evil, and both good and evil are spritually spoken of in scripture as spirits (clean and unclean spirits, ect.) they both are able to effect creation at the same time.

    Satan or the serpant may simply be a figurative representive of all evil, Just as our GOD IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF all good? Both are spirits so both can indwell all flesh even at the same time. Man by eating of the tree (that which brings forth from self) GOOD AND EVIL, have put both good and evil in him to experience them both, and GOD HAS ALLOWED IT SO MAN COULD BECOME MORE LIKE HIM , KNOWING GOOD “AND” EVIL.

    PEACE AND LOVE TO YOU AND YOURS. …….gene

    #821886
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jodi,

    “Lord heal my unbelief”

     

    The man who doubts can expect nothing from the Lord.

    Doubt and unbelief are the most serious diseases of the trunk of the tree of faith.

    The Grace of God cannot flow up as sap in such a tree even if it was rooted in the soil provided by God.

    Your codes to understand scripture obscure it.

    #821887
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick….we need to make sure that we don’t use scripture to “CAUSE” DOUBT EITHER, WE ARE TOLD, it is better we do not offend (prevent) one of the little ones . It’s is better for a mill stone be put around his neck and him cast into the sea., be gentle brother.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jodi,

    Lk 13.11

    And behold there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself.

    And when Jesus saw her, he called her to him and said unto her

    ”Woman, thou art loosed from thy infirmity”

    And he laid his hands on her: and immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.

    And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people’ There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day’

    The Lord then answered him, and said

    ”Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath, loose his ox or his ass from the stall and lead him away to watering?Then ought not this daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these 18 years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day”

    #821889
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Scripture is of faith.

    It is those who offer their imaginations that should take care.

    #821890
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jodi,

    So the god of this world works his evil by the use of spirits.

    Satan had her bound by a spirit of infirmity.

    Jesus undid his mischief.

    #821891
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jodi,

    2Thess 2.9

    Even Him , whose coming is after the working of Satan, with all power and signs and lying wonders…

     

    The power of Satan is significant.

    #821892
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick…..Yes the false “image” of Jesus as a God, is the working of satan through the members of the fallen churches, working in those who love not the truth, which created this lie, which is a false “IMAGE” of our lord Jesus, who has taken his seat in the temple of God and is NOW being worshiped AS a God by ALL THE DECIEVED .

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #821893
     princess 
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    Hi princess,

    So the end of your doubts is emptiness?

    emptiness. to be emptied from all that  fear, hate, the areas that I need to let go in my life, to be able to fully love, all the areas in this world we strive to solve. yes, in a way it would be emptiness.

    No(,) the answers are also written. remember the comma and what it does.

    yes, answers can be found in writings. some only look at one or two, maybe three depends on the individual’s belief. which again, cultures repeat this form of triad worship. how do you see yourself set apart. 

    Man cannot live by bread alone yes they can, history has proven that. 

    but by every word that comes from the mouth of God. Matt 4. this is how I see your statement;

    your god or god’s mouth belongs to Matt4. so the use of word mouth, sends the reader to human form with a name. cultures have taken the names of their gods and given them human attributes using the methods of carving, painting, building.  your culture of faith is no different. you portray your god as human. what is the difference of opening your eyes and seeing it to closing your eyes and seeing it? your culture of faith brings with it an icon of the mind. now you can say, see, we have no idols.

    what did you say about a man’s ego, logic. !O!

    For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God. Jn //3

    blah, blah, godman, blah, blah, mangod.

    took me a minute to remember your paul’s boy, all coming back now. meh!

    #821894
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Princess…..You seem really confused about the topic we are talking about. Whst do you mean by “pauls boy”? Are you talking to me or Nick or both?

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #821896
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Princess,

    Abraham, Jacob and Isaac live.

    They found the spring bubbling up to eternal life.

    But most still take a bucket to the well hoping today is not the day it breaks.

    #821898
     princess 
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    peace and love to you Gene.

    no, Gene I was responding to Nick.

    paul’s boy is a reference to Nick’s culture of faith, a Pauline Christian. one that is solely based on the physically attributes. there is no spirit involved, and if there is it is dropped down to a physically level each time. a woman destroyed the world in less then two point five seconds and man has been trying to fix it every since kinda thoughts. guess all sins haven’t been forgiven huh? the olde adage; a way to a man’s heart is through his stomach. holding true to this day. wonder if honey was considered the fruit. I have thought what delectable food caused such a fuss, honey was my conclusion. who can resist a honeycomb, and to think eve was uncovered at the time. most assured she was beautiful to adam. the garden was paradise why would not the one you shared it with be paradise too. hard for a man to say no. the power of what you truly desire. wonder how long it took adam to succumb. maybe that is where logic lost it’s way. hum….that gives eve the trophy of manipulation of all humankind. that’s a feat in itself. maybe Lilith was the serpent. maybe Lucifer is Lilith, the female of god. oh that would make an interesting tale of two cities.

    so do you think adman and eve made love in the garden beforehand.  food for thought !o!

     

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     princess 
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    Hi Princess, hi nick, 

     

    toy soldiers all in a line, and look at you using three names as a reference. watch that 3 Nick, has a way of turning itself around.

     

    Abraham, Jacob and Isaac live.

    no they don’t. their cultures do. 

     

    They found the spring bubbling up to eternal life.

     

    oh wow, dig this: 

    gargoyle:

    1. a grotesque carved human or animal face or figure projecting from the gutter of a building, typically acting as a spout to carry water clear of a wall.

    they are found all throughout ancient of ruins. betcha your soldiers drank from it. the count for different gargoyles carved 72 (this is from memory) talk about your legion. they were  the gods of armies of demons. why would most ancient temples have such carvings. the bubbling spring thing just caught my attention to what I had listened to last night. 

     

     springing up nick, now, now, your setting the location a as bubbling spring, water movement. that is elemental and your crossing over a border your not permitted to and me being of a delicate nature find these words blasphemy to the most sacred. please refrain from using such. your fleshandblood godman has done enough damage already. 

     

    But most still take a bucket to the well hoping today is not the day it breaks.

    it’s already broke.

    conserve water.  

    *edited spacing, twice

    #821900
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Princess,

    The desperate seek anything to worship. They fashion their gargoyles and idols.

    Yes worship of earthly demons has it’s fans.

    No but I say that the things which the gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God: and I do want you to be sharers in demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table and the Lord and the table of demons. 1Cor 10.

    As has the worship of female pseudodeities.

    The children gather the wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough to make cakes for the queen of heaven.Jer 7

    Plenty of options.

    But life is short.

     

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