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Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,12:04) k Quote The Spirit of the Son is the Spirit of the Christ is the Spirit of the God is the the Holy Spirit as there is only one Spirit in the unity of the Spirit. how can anyone understand this
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Hi Pierre,The “Spirit of Christ” is of God.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,12:09) k Quote * With his life Jesus revealed that a human being can overcome sin by the power of Jehovah through faith; even though tempted as is common to man. you do not believe in scriptures right
that is why you do not beleive in them ,NO MAN BORN OF MAN CAN CLAIM THAT HE DOES NOT SIN OR HE IS WITHOUT SIN ,EVEN IF HE HIS A ;PROPHET,A SAINT,OR MOSES HIMSELF
Hi Pierre, what do you have to say about these Scriptures?1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he
that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Matt 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
2 Tim 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,07:12) K Quote I may have used words that are rarely used, therefore hard to understand. If so then please let me know. USELESS COMMENT
T,I will assume you understood my words.
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,07:04) k Quote The Spirit of the Son is the Spirit of the Christ is the Spirit of the God is the the Holy Spirit as there is only one Spirit in the unity of the Spirit. how can anyone understand this
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T,Do you understand the begets?
Would you prefer I use “also known as” instead?
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,07:09) k Quote * With his life Jesus revealed that a human being can overcome sin by the power of Jehovah through faith; even though tempted as is common to man. you do not believe in scriptures right
that is why you do not beleive in them ,NO MAN BORN OF MAN CAN CLAIM THAT HE DOES NOT SIN OR HE IS WITHOUT SIN ,EVEN IF HE HIS A ;PROPHET,A SAINT,OR MOSES HIMSELF
T,You say those words because the evil one has used them to trick you.
I ask you what words do those that love sin want to hear:
1} They are saved in their sins
2} They are saved from their sins.Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,07:12) K Quote I believe one aspect of God's Spirit is Jehovah's creative force; which is why it moved upon the face of the waters in Genesis 1:2. DO ,I CARE OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE ? NO,;;SHOW ME IN SCRIPTURES ;;;IS GOD DIVIDED
T,Aspect does not mean divided but instead speaks of a particular role of the Spirit's many roles. Jehovah uses his own Spirit to act on and communicate with creation. In this was it has been being an mediator between God and man. Jesus inherited it and so has become the Son of God.
1 Peter 1:10-11
King James Version (KJV)10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.The Spirit of Christ, aka the Spirit of God, was in the Prophets of old communicating with them what was to come.
Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 09 2012,22:54) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,12:04) k Quote The Spirit of the Son is the Spirit of the Christ is the Spirit of the God is the the Holy Spirit as there is only one Spirit in the unity of the Spirit. how can anyone understand this
?
Hi Pierre,The “Spirit of Christ” is of God.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjmy spirit is also of God as long as I stay with the scriptures and follow his will,
Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 10 2012,00:51) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,07:12) K Quote I believe one aspect of God's Spirit is Jehovah's creative force; which is why it moved upon the face of the waters in Genesis 1:2. DO ,I CARE OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE ? NO,;;SHOW ME IN SCRIPTURES ;;;IS GOD DIVIDED
T,Aspect does not mean divided but instead speaks of a particular role of the Spirit's many roles. Jehovah uses his own Spirit to act on and communicate with creation. In this was it has been being an mediator between God and man. Jesus inherited it and so has become the Son of God.
1 Peter 1:10-11
King James Version (KJV)10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.The Spirit of Christ, aka the Spirit of God, was in the Prophets of old communicating with them what was to come.
kQuote The Spirit of Christ, aka the Spirit of God, was in the Prophets of old communicating with them what was to come. 1 Peter 1:10-11
King James Version (KJV)10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.this means that God as made the prophet known in prophecies what is to come ,
Lk 24:25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken!
Lk 24:26 Did not the Christ have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?”
Lk 24:27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,05:08) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 09 2012,07:50) To All………….Saying Jesus is the root from which Jesse and David came is a total LIE and corruption of scriptures. Jesus is (the Root), “OF” or (FROM) Jesse and King David, He is also the Offspring of them both. Any half intelligent person can understand that. Trinitarians and preexistences have to twist up that understanding in order to deny Jesus' complete Humanity. They can not believe GOD took a Purely Human Being and Perfected Him, and raised him from the grave, which shows God's work in Humanity, they by this deny God's Glory for his work in Christ Jesus. These Trinitarians and Preexistences are totally corrupted in their false teachings of the word of God, and they never stop twisting up and corrupting his word. They are the Blind leading the Blind and are both in a ditch grouping at the walls falsehood.
peace and love to you all…………………………………………..gene
gplease explain how can a man born of man be pure IN THE EYES OF GOD???
please do not be a religeous liar and say IT IS A MYSTERY
Terricca………..You very own word shows how much your false dogmas have decieved you. Jesus said all things were possible with God, and God, said “Be you Holy for i am Holy and Be you Perfect for i am Perfect” and again he said ” I will take out of you the stony heart and give you a heart of “FLESH” and I will write my laws in your inward parts.Not to mention Jesus said he was a Son of Man over and over, and i do believe he was a man who did not sin. You trinitarians and preexistences simply can not stop Separating Jesus from his human identity with his Brothers and Sisters can you?
Tell us Pierre what is a Son of Man mean to you?
Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 07 2012,14:40) Your claim is not that Jesse and David are decedents of Jesus but that they were created through Jesus. That idea of yours introduces a time paradox to your teaching…….
Pierre is simply reading and believing what the scriptures teach, Kerwin. If there is a “paradox” involved, then it is a paradox taught by the scriptures themselves – and not something made up by Pierre.It would seem then that your argument is against what the scriptures actually teach, and not against Pierre for repeating those teachings, right?
Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 07 2012,14:40) ………in his name all things are created anew……
But Col 1:16 says that ALL things WERE created by him – not “all NEW things ARE created by him”.And you can argue “aorist tense” until you're blue in the face, Kerwin, but this teaching is not only in Col 1:16. It is also in John 1:3, 1 Cor 8:6, and Heb 1:2. And the words “NEW things” are not used in ANY of those teachings.
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 07 2012,18:32) …….and so scriptures are true in saying that Christ comes before Jesse because he existed before Jesse, the fact that you do not believe in the pre existence of Christ has the son of God and as God first creation does not make untrue…….
Jesus also point blank tells the Jews he existed before Abraham existed. But you are correct, Pierre: The fact that Kerwin chooses not to believe these things for personal reasons doesn't make these things untrue.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 08 2012,07:50) To All………….Saying Jesus is the root from which Jesse and David came is a total LIE and corruption of scriptures. Jesus is (the Root), “OF” or (FROM) Jesse and King David, He is also the Offspring of them both. Any half intelligent person can understand that.
Look at your own words, Gene. If the word “Root” means “from Jesse and David”, then what do your words “ALSO the offspring” mean?If “root” just means the same as “offspring”, then in Revelation 22:16, Jesus was saying, “I am the offspring AND ALSO the offspring of David”. What sense does that make?
But if “root” and “offspring” convey DIFFERENT meanings, such as “came before” and “came after”, then your own word “ALSO” makes perfect sense. Because then it would convey that Jesus “came before, AND ALSO came after”.
See Gene? If they both mean the same thing, the word “ALSO”, that YOU used, would be useless. I believe this is God working through your conscience to teach you something. I believe God caused you to use the word “ALSO” in your post.
Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 10 2012,00:17) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,07:09) k Quote * With his life Jesus revealed that a human being can overcome sin by the power of Jehovah through faith; even though tempted as is common to man. you do not believe in scriptures right
that is why you do not beleive in them ,NO MAN BORN OF MAN CAN CLAIM THAT HE DOES NOT SIN OR HE IS WITHOUT SIN ,EVEN IF HE HIS A ;PROPHET,A SAINT,OR MOSES HIMSELF
T,You say those words because the evil one has used them to trick you.
I ask you what words do those that love sin want to hear:
1} They are saved in their sins
2} They are saved from their sins.
KI know that but tell me does it says we do not sin ??
I am not talking of sins that will bring dead
So you must be perfect right???
How come I can not see your perfection in your quotes
YQuote (kerwin @ Oct. 10 2012,00:17) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,07:09) k Quote * With his life Jesus revealed that a human being can overcome sin by the power of Jehovah through faith; even though tempted as is common to man. you do not believe in scriptures right
that is why you do not beleive in them ,NO MAN BORN OF MAN CAN CLAIM THAT HE DOES NOT SIN OR HE IS WITHOUT SIN ,EVEN IF HE HIS A ;PROPHET,A SAINT,OR MOSES HIMSELF
T,You say those words because the evil one has used them to trick you.
I ask you what words do those that love sin want to hear:
1} They are saved in their sins
2} They are saved from their sins.
KWe are not on tv
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,00:59) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 10 2012,00:17) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,07:09) k Quote * With his life Jesus revealed that a human being can overcome sin by the power of Jehovah through faith; even though tempted as is common to man. you do not believe in scriptures right
that is why you do not beleive in them ,NO MAN BORN OF MAN CAN CLAIM THAT HE DOES NOT SIN OR HE IS WITHOUT SIN ,EVEN IF HE HIS A ;PROPHET,A SAINT,OR MOSES HIMSELF
T,You say those words because the evil one has used them to trick you.
I ask you what words do those that love sin want to hear:
1} They are saved in their sins
2} They are saved from their sins.
KWe are not on tv
T,I am not saying we are on TV though Jehovah watches us.
I am saying the teachings of Satan, which are lies, crept into among the church and can lead you astray.
Satan declares humans will sin
Jehovah declares he sent Jesus to save us from our sins.Those who love sin continue to listen to Satan because his words justify their sinning while those that hunger and thirst for righteousness repent and listen to Jehovah because his words feed and give them drink.
Jehovah teaches us that IF we sin we have a way to be cleansed of unrighteousness.
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,00:54) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 10 2012,00:17) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,07:09) k Quote * With his life Jesus revealed that a human being can overcome sin by the power of Jehovah through faith; even though tempted as is common to man. you do not believe in scriptures right
that is why you do not beleive in them ,NO MAN BORN OF MAN CAN CLAIM THAT HE DOES NOT SIN OR HE IS WITHOUT SIN ,EVEN IF HE HIS A ;PROPHET,A SAINT,OR MOSES HIMSELF
T,You say those words because the evil one has used them to trick you.
I ask you what words do those that love sin want to hear:
1} They are saved in their sins
2} They are saved from their sins.
KI know that but tell me does it says we do not sin ??
I am not talking of sins that will bring dead
So you must be perfect right???
How come I can not see your perfection in your quotes
Y
T,I can only speak of the what Jehovah states:
1) Those that sin are slaves to sin
2) Anyone that continues to sin is a slave to sin.
3) Jesus came to set us truly free slavery to sin.The words “NO MAN BORN OF MAN CAN CLAIM THAT HE DOES NOT SIN” deny that Jesus can set a person free from sin. It is necessary to believe that you can be set free for the one who doubts cannot expect to receive anything from Jehovah.
You can see this is true because those that love seek to justify their actions while those that love Jehovah seek to love as he does.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2012,23:53) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 07 2012,18:32) …….and so scriptures are true in saying that Christ comes before Jesse because he existed before Jesse, the fact that you do not believe in the pre existence of Christ has the son of God and as God first creation does not make untrue…….
Jesus also point blank tells the Jews he existed before Abraham existed. But you are correct, Pierre: The fact that Kerwin chooses not to believe these things for personal reasons doesn't make these things untrue.
Mike,That is what you have been brought to want Jesus to state; it is not what Jesus was teaching.
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,22:42) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 09 2012,22:54) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,12:04) k Quote The Spirit of the Son is the Spirit of the Christ is the Spirit of the God is the the Holy Spirit as there is only one Spirit in the unity of the Spirit. how can anyone understand this
?
Hi Pierre,The “Spirit of Christ” is of God.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjmy spirit is also of God as long as I stay with the scriptures and follow his will,
Hi Pierre,Are you giving yourself pats on the back?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 10 2012,04:46) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 07 2012,14:40) Your claim is not that Jesse and David are decedents of Jesus but that they were created through Jesus. That idea of yours introduces a time paradox to your teaching…….
Pierre is simply reading and believing what the scriptures teach, Kerwin. If there is a “paradox” involved, then it is a paradox taught by the scriptures themselves – and not something made up by Pierre.It would seem then that your argument is against what the scriptures actually teach, and not against Pierre for repeating those teachings, right?
Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 07 2012,14:40) ………in his name all things are created anew……
But Col 1:16 says that ALL things WERE created by him – not “all NEW things ARE created by him”.And you can argue “aorist tense” until you're blue in the face, Kerwin, but this teaching is not only in Col 1:16. It is also in John 1:3, 1 Cor 8:6, and Heb 1:2. And the words “NEW things” are not used in ANY of those teachings.
Hi Kerwin and Mike,Jesus was a living existential paradox.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 10 2012,04:53) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 07 2012,18:32) …….and so scriptures are true in saying that Christ comes before Jesse because he existed before Jesse, the fact that you do not believe in the pre existence of Christ has the son of God and as God first creation does not make untrue…….
Jesus also point blank tells the Jews he existed before Abraham existed. But you are correct, Pierre: The fact that Kerwin chooses not to believe these things for personal reasons doesn't make these things untrue.
Hi Mike,No, “the Jews” did not live before Abraham – Judah(the Jews) was Abraham's great(Isaac) great(Jacob) grandson(Judah).
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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