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Quote The only spirit body I know of in Scripture; is the body of a ghost; and I am told that believers will not be found that naked after the resurrection. this understanding is related to your knowledge of scriptures ,what seems limited
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2012,09:30) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 15 2012,14:59) Not one of you has yet to address the three scriptures I posted in Ezk………….
Gene,I don't read every post you make here. Why not post that one scripture for us, and we'll evaluate whether or not it says what you claim it does.
Mike………..Just for you again i will Just quote those scriptures. and please try to remember it is GOD Speaking not me.Eze 37:5……> Thus says the Lord GOD unto these “bones” ; Behold, “I” will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall Live: (6) And “I” will lay “sinews” upon you, and will bring up “flesh” upon you, and cover you with “skin” and put “breath” in you, and you shall “live”; and you shall know that “I” am the LORD.
How clear , how exact , and Jesus said scripture can not be broken. Even though some here try to break the very words of what the LORD GOD , himself says for their own personal doctrines of no flesh body resurrection IMO
I hope this was not to much for you to read this time Mike.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 17 2012,08:58) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2012,09:30) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 15 2012,14:59) Not one of you has yet to address the three scriptures I posted in Ezk………….
Gene,I don't read every post you make here. Why not post that one scripture for us, and we'll evaluate whether or not it says what you claim it does.
Mike………..Just for you again i will Just quote those scriptures. and please try to remember it is GOD Speaking not me.Eze 37:5……> Thus says the Lord GOD unto these “bones” ; Behold, “I” will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall Live: (6) And “I” will lay “sinews” upon you, and will bring up “flesh” upon you, and cover you with “skin” and put “breath” in you, and you shall “live”; and you shall know that “I” am the LORD.
How clear , how exact , and Jesus said scripture can not be broken. Even though some here try to break the very words of what the LORD GOD , himself says for their own personal doctrines of no flesh body resurrection IMO
I hope this was not to much for you to read this time Mike.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………gene
GeneEze 37:4 Then he said to me, “Prophesy to these bones and say to them, ‘Dry bones, hear the word of the LORD?
this is a prophesy right
yes what about is it not the following scriptures;
Eze 36:36 Then the nations around you that remain will know that I the LORD have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted what was desolate. I the LORD have spoken, and I will do it.’
Eze 36:37 “This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Once again I will yield to the plea of the house of Israel and do this for them: I will make their people as numerous as sheep,his this not what God did at the time of Christ and sinse
Terricca…….You couldn't be any further from the truth even if you tried to be. IMO . Let's deal with those scripture posted please. Grabbing scriptures that have nothing to do with the posted one or ones and then trying to force the text to meet your renditions of them is futile IMO.
Peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2012,05:41) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,05:15) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2012,03:39)
What part of Mark 12:25 speaks of anyone having flesh? And what scripture ANYWHERE speaks of angels having flesh?
Hi Mike,It is implied in Gen.6:2 and again in Jude 1:6-7.
God bless
Ed JNo it's not. God impregnated Mary. Is it “implied” that God manifested flesh to do so?
Hi Mike,Mary's pregnancy is something different altogether, it's des-
cribed as a miracle in Isaiah 7:14, as a sign from JEHOVAH.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 17 2012,18:44) Terricca…….You couldn't be any further from the truth even if you tried to be. IMO . Let's deal with those scripture posted please. Grabbing scriptures that have nothing to do with the posted one or ones and then trying to force the text to meet your renditions of them is futile IMO. Peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene
geneyou do not understand scriptures ,not even the ones you are quoting ,I give you scriptures and you trow me opinions, you quote me mutilated scriptures and i give you full scriptures ,and you call me a lost soul and trying to force scriptures ,
are you on drugs
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2012,20:21) K Quote As for angels they passed the same tests Jesus put forth to show they were not spirits WHAT THE TEST IN THE FLESH THAT CHRIST PASTED AS TO DO WITH THE ANGELS ,THE TEST IS FOR MEN,
HOW COULD THE ANGEL PAST THAT TEST
THEY SEE GOD OR ARE IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD EVERY DAY ,ANGELS ARE OF THE HEAVEN ,MEN ARE OF THE EARTH ARE STILL IN DOUBTS ON THIS
T,The test is to determine if an individual has a physical form with the ability to consume food that is beneficial to life.
That which has a spirit body can neither eat or be touched.
Jesus passed through the wall because the parts of his body were not where the parts of the wall were; nevertheless both his body and the wall had physical form.
At this time we, of this world, know how it can be done though we have not yet been given the ability to do so, either through using technology or by other means.
Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 17 2012,22:28) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2012,20:21) K Quote As for angels they passed the same tests Jesus put forth to show they were not spirits WHAT THE TEST IN THE FLESH THAT CHRIST PASTED AS TO DO WITH THE ANGELS ,THE TEST IS FOR MEN,
HOW COULD THE ANGEL PAST THAT TEST
THEY SEE GOD OR ARE IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD EVERY DAY ,ANGELS ARE OF THE HEAVEN ,MEN ARE OF THE EARTH ARE STILL IN DOUBTS ON THIS
T,The test is to determine if an individual has a physical form with the ability to consume food that is beneficial to life.
That which has a spirit body can neither eat or be touched.
Jesus passed through the wall because the parts of his body were not where the parts of the wall were; nevertheless both his body and the wall had physical form.
At this time we, of this world, know how it can be done though we have not yet been given the ability to do so, either through using technology or by other means.
kWHAT YOU SAY IS CONTRARY TO SCRIPTURES LOOK AT THE ANGELS THAT WENT TO ABRAHAM,
DO YOU UNDERSTAND CHRIST WEN HE SAID “ALL POWERS HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO ME ON EARTH AND IN HEAVEN
“Quote At this time we, of this world, know how it can be done though we have not yet been given the ability to do so, either through using technology or by other means. THIS AS NO MEANING ,AND IS OF THE WORLD ,USELESS
Mike……………When are we going to disuse the scriptures i gave you twice , or are you going to let Pierre continue to throw flack and distract from those scriptures for you , perhaps you and T8 can put your heads together and come up with something like Pierre that can throwout God the Father own words or change them as Pierre does to mean something else. He now is “accusing” me of taking drugs the marks of a true brother and believer in Jesus, right? What i really believe is Poor Pierre took his Que from T8's remakes to me though. I know he can't help being the “ACCUSER” that he is, it is his nature at this time.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………gene
T,
The angels that went to Abraham did not have spirit bodies as they, providing my memory is correct, both ate and were touched.
Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 18 2012,17:12) T, The angels that went to Abraham did not have spirit bodies as they, providing my memory is correct, both ate and were touched.
kso they were no angels then
or they materialized (took a flesh like body ) or do you believe that angels are like men look alike and flesh Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 18 2012,06:59) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 18 2012,17:12) T, The angels that went to Abraham did not have spirit bodies as they, providing my memory is correct, both ate and were touched.
kso they were no angels then
or they materialized (took a flesh like body ) or do you believe that angels are like men look alike and flesh
T,Angels are never claimed to posses spirit bodies.
There is one case in Scripture where spirits sit around the throne of God and one volunteers to become a lying spirit in the mouths of the kings prophets.
The inference is that spirit is a demon because the righteous do not prophesy falsely.
There is also the case of the spirit God sent to King Saul; a spirit of unrighteous and unstable anger.
Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 18 2012,19:11) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 18 2012,06:59) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 18 2012,17:12) T, The angels that went to Abraham did not have spirit bodies as they, providing my memory is correct, both ate and were touched.
kso they were no angels then
or they materialized (took a flesh like body ) or do you believe that angels are like men look alike and flesh
T,Angels are never claimed to posses spirit bodies.
There is one case in Scripture where spirits sit around the throne of God and one volunteers to become a lying spirit in the mouths of the kings prophets.
The inference is that spirit is a demon because the righteous do not prophesy falsely.
There is also the case of the spirit God sent to King Saul; a spirit of unrighteous and unstable anger.
kyou are teaching me ,now??? but you do not answer my questions
so I am not a student ,even though I can learn new things ,
so are you going to answer my questions
Mike……..I am still waiting for your honest response to the scriptures I quoted in Ezk 37:5-6 brother. I stand on the fact, that what God said he will do he will do, and even more God said that this was the whole house of Israel Mike.
Peace and love to you and your Mike………………………………..gene
Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2012,03:37) As for angels they passed the same tests Jesus put forth to show they were not spirits; and yet you continue to claim that both Jesus and the angels are spirits.
Kerwin,Can you show me the scripture that says, “the angel ate food, thereby proving he was made of flesh”?
Humans don't generally eat dirt, Kerwin; but I surely COULD eat dirt if I wanted to. Don't you suppose an angel COULD eat human food if he wanted to?
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 16 2012,08:58) Eze 37:5……> Thus says the Lord GOD unto these “bones” ; Behold, “I” will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall Live: (6) And “I” will lay “sinews” upon you, and will bring up “flesh” upon you, and cover you with “skin” and put “breath” in you, and you shall “live”; and you shall know that “I” am the LORD.
Okay Gene,What point are you trying to argue with that scripture? It surely doesn't say anything about the dead being resurrected with flesh bodies when Jesus returns. Nor does it contradict Paul's teaching in 1 Cor 15.
Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,19:08) Hi Mike, Mary's pregnancy is something different altogether, it's des-
cribed as a miracle in Isaiah 7:14, as a sign from JEHOVAH.
It proves that a HUMAN women CAN BE impregnated by a SPIRIT BEING.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 17 2012,09:23) Mike……………When are we going to disuse the scriptures i gave you twice……………
Sorry Gene. Things have come up at my place of employment, and I won't be able to post every day.Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 17 2012,17:12) T, The angels that went to Abraham did not have spirit bodies as they, providing my memory is correct, both ate and were touched.
I don't believe ANY scripture speaks of a human being “touching” an angel. And the fact that an angel is physically able to eat human food is not proof they have flesh.After all, human ate what was called “angels' food” in the wilderness, right? Did that make Moses and the others angels?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2012,04:29) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 16 2012,08:58) Eze 37:5……> Thus says the Lord GOD unto these “bones” ; Behold, “I” will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall Live: (6) And “I” will lay “sinews” upon you, and will bring up “flesh” upon you, and cover you with “skin” and put “breath” in you, and you shall “live”; and you shall know that “I” am the LORD.
Okay Gene,What point are you trying to argue with that scripture? It surely doesn't say anything about the dead being resurrected with flesh bodies when Jesus returns. Nor does it contradict Paul's teaching in 1 Cor 15.
Mike………Then what is these scriptures talking about then? It also say that this was the whole house of Israel . Go back and study them carefully and if it is not talking about a resurrection of flesh and bone bodies I would like to know what you think it is talking about then ?Eze 37:11 Then he said unto me Son of Man these bones are the whole house of Israel behold they say Our Bone are dried, and our hope is lost; we are cut off from our parts. (12) Therefore Prophesy and say unto them, Thus says the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your “graves” and bring you into the land of Israel. (13) And you shall Know that I am the LORD, when “I” have opened your “graves”, and brought you “up” out of your “GRAVES”
Mike also notice verse 14….> And shall put my spirit “in” you, and you shall “LIVE”, and “I” shall place you in your own land This is the “Spiritual” resurected House of God those human flesh and bone beings that God will raise up from the Grave who have the Spirit of the Living God “IN” them > IMO
Peace and love to you and yours Mike………………………gene
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