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So if Jesus and God are one in the sense that you have said like Husband and wife, the wife wouldn’t be the husband or the Husband the wife, right? So God wouldn’t be Jesus or Jesus wouldn’t be God…do you see it that way. Becoming 1 in unity doesn’t alter the identity or number of individual beings
If you can compare the unity in which Scripture describes marriage, with the oneness of the trinity, then there shouldn’t be any confusion – Jesus is not the Father or the Spirit, yet the fact that He is One with the Father means He shares the Deity of God.
Genesis 11
6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
what does this mean to you?
I would say it speaks about unity of purpose…
psst davidl,
There is no trinity.
Yet you make it your foundation
pssst NickHassan
You apply your own understanding to the sacred words.
It satisfies your mind but is far from a spiritual view.
Trust not in your own understanding
Hi davidl,
So have you heard the voice of the Spirit in the mouth of Jesus yet?
Did you ever hear the Spirit in the prophets?
This is not so much about men, though they are glorious vessels, but about the work of God in them.
acts 2.22
Hi DavidL you wrote
If you can compare the unity in which Scripture describes marriage, with the oneness of the trinity, then there shouldn’t be any confusion – Jesus is not the Father or the Spirit, yet the fact that He is One with the Father means He shares the Deity of God.
Okay, so far so good, now if Jesus says “My God” and depending on “God” how are you coming to the conclusion that Jesus is God? Are you of the belief that there is no such Sovereign being that is God all by Himself.
If that is not clear I guess I am asking, is there a God exclusively without Jesus, that Jesus knows to be the only true God?
Okay, so far so good, now if Jesus says “My God” and depending on “God” how are you coming to the conclusion that Jesus is God?
…”I and the Father are one…” – Two separate Beings… the Father is head over Christ (Christ’s God) – yet they are one..
the Word was with God – and the Word was God..
if you have seen Me – you have seen the Father..
They are two – they are one..
magic.. or revelation..!?
pssst David,
this is just a little knock on the door for you. ancient faiths are all triad based. it has been the fashion of the ages. I’m taking it (origin) they couldn’t decide which element of the world had the most power. Christianity did not skip out on the trend.
study the history of triad beliefs. but if you it makes you feel better that you take three elements and combine them in one, then it is nothing new under the sun.
Hi davidl,
Yes and in the same way the Father and the Son are one Jesus prayed we could enter into the same unity.
Of course it would never make us God.
Your dogma would say it would.
pssst princess,
study the history of triad beliefs.
this is just a little knock on the door for you…. better to read the inspired Word of God for yourself – than base your beliefs on the second hand studies of people who are not led by the Spirit of God..
NickHassan
Of course it would never make us God.
agreed – only Christ is one with the Father..
(unless you’ve finally thought of someone else who could say the things He said)..
Take care with personal revelations.
Col 2, 2 peter 1.20
Rev. 12:11 – ‘They triumphed over him [Satan] by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony.”
Hi davidl.
You may imagine you are bravely contending against Satan here
but you are charging at windmills.
We defend the veracity of the Word of God but you are defending the manmade derivations,
Jn17.21
” That they all may be one, as thou Father art in me, and I in thee, that they may also be one in us..”
Listen to him
don’t deceive yourself…
I know you try to sound like you know what you’re talking about..
but you’re actually accusing others of what you yourself are doing – promoting the uninspired teachings of men..!!
if you profess to believe what is promoted as truth on this site – then you’re more deluded than the Catholics…
Hi davidl,
No I do not support most of those who share here.
I do not accept the words of nonchristians or idolaters.
But there are flashes of light in the gloom but not from you.
you know David just because the belief in your three gods isn’t the first of it’s kind no reason to be hostile. and David, Christianity is a second hand religion, Judaism was first. I may not be the one that needs the refresher course. Just saying.
but like I said if it makes you warm and fuzzy inside to have three gods then alright, your going to have some not believe you, me being one and calling you out on it.
if needed we could simply start with Brahma.
knock louder David, I can’t hear you.
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