Spirit of Christ

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Quote (942767 @ June 02 2014,08:18) Quote (terraricca @ June 02 2014,12:42) Quote (942767 @ June 02 2014,06:13) Hi: This is what Jesus said: Quote John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: b]the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.[/b] Quote 2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. Quote 1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. Love in Christ, Marty Marty Jn 6:62 What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before! Jn 6:63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life. Jn 6:64 Yet there are some of you who do not believe which part of those verses you do not believe ,you are not alone even Jesus says about some that are present when he said those words , i really wander if you understand those scriptures ,because Jesus only means that to be saved ;the flesh counts for nothing ” so it is not in a physical direct way to understand that our flesh counts for nothing ,because without our flesh we would not be able to serve in deeds our God and his son , Hi Pierre: I understand what he said, do you?  Read what I said to Mike about this in another thread. Love in Christ, Marty Marty I have already read it ,but you still do not believe the scriptures ;that was my point

I understand the scriptures and I have told you and Mike what he meant by them, but if you understand them differently, then tell me where you understand them differently, and give me scripture to support what you are saying.

The scriptures do not state that he was sent down from heaven to be born of the flesh.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Quote (terraricca @ June 02 2014,13:30) Quote (942767 @ June 02 2014,08:18) Quote (terraricca @ June 02 2014,12:42) Quote (942767 @ June 02 2014,06:13) Hi: This is what Jesus said: Quote John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: b]the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.[/b] Quote 2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. Quote 1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. Love in Christ, Marty Marty Jn 6:62 What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before! Jn 6:63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life. Jn 6:64 Yet there are some of you who do not believe which part of those verses you do not believe ,you are not alone even Jesus says about some that are present when he said those words , i really wander if you understand those scriptures ,because Jesus only means that to be saved ;the flesh counts for nothing ” so it is not in a physical direct way to understand that our flesh counts for nothing ,because without our flesh we would not be able to serve in deeds our God and his son , Hi Pierre: I understand what he said, do you?  Read what I said to Mike about this in another thread. Love in Christ, Marty Marty I have already read it ,but you still do not believe the scriptures ;that was my point I understand the scriptures and I have told you and Mike what he meant by them, but if you understand them differently, then tell me where you understand them differently, and give me scripture to support what you are saying. The scriptures do not state that he was sent down from heaven to be born of the flesh. Love in Christ, Marty

Marty

my question to you is simple ;assume we both standing and listen to Jesus speaking as his disciples (not as the other folks)

and he says ; Jn 6:38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.

what would you and i understand ;

[942767]

Hi Pierre:

The disciples did not understand what he was saying until he explained to them what he meant, and so, if I was standing there listening to his saying this, I would have to wait for him to explain what he meant, and I was not there, but I have read what he stated as he explained what he meant, and I have explained what he meant to you and supported what I have stated with scripture.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[terraricca]

Quote (942767 @ June 02 2014,09:14)

Hi Pierre: The disciples did not understand what he was saying until he explained to them what he meant, and so, if I was standing there listening to his saying this, I would have to wait for him to explain what he meant, and I was not there, but I have read what he stated as he explained what he meant, and I have explained what he meant to you and supported what I have stated with scripture. Love in Christ, Marty

Marty

all what Christ said did not need to be explained to them ,only parables ,and some other things what did not make sens to them ;as Jews ;

but you rather want and look for an explanation all of the time .

so it is not the understanding that is in question but the willing of believing as it is written ;that is the question .

and their it is of no one to interfere ;it is between you and God and his son ;

Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

[942767]

This is what the scriptures state:

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John 6:60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? 61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

And so, I am condemned because I do not accept what you are saying as the truth?

I believe the scriptures, and they must be line upon line and precept upon precept, and it is God will determine whether or not I have believed and whether or not I am condemned.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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This is what the scriptures state: Quote John 6:60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? 61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? And so, I am condemned because I do not accept what you are saying as the truth? I believe the scriptures, and they must be line upon line and precept upon precept, and it is God will determine whether or not I have believed and whether or not I am condemned. Love in Christ, Marty

Marty

Jn 6:56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him.
Jn 6:57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.
Jn 6:58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever.”

this was the verses that you mention that end up to respond from the apostles the following words you are quoting ;

but not the ones that I quoted to you about Christ saying in John 6;38

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And so, how do you say that he came down from heaven?  I have told you what the scriptures state and that is that his body was conceived by the Holy Ghost in the womb of the virgin Mary, and he was born into this world a manchild.  The Holy Ghost is the Father's Spirit and Jesus calls God his Father, and the Father's throne is in heaven.  His spirit was formed by the Word of God as he obeyed it without sin unto death on the cross.  It was the Father dwelling in him by His Spirit whom he was obeying, and the Father came down from heaven and spoke to humanity through him.  This what and how the scriptures state that he came down from heaven.

Now unless you can show me that he came down from heaven in some other way by the scriptures, you can forget about trying to tell me that I am wrong.

That the Father sent him is speaking about the Father sending him into the world as his Christ, as he states here in John 17.

This is what he said:

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16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[terraricca]

Quote (942767 @ June 03 2014,02:50)

And so, how do you say that he came down from heaven?  I have told you what the scriptures state and that is that his body was conceived by the Holy Ghost in the womb of the virgin Mary, and he was born into this world a manchild.  The Holy Ghost is the Father's Spirit and Jesus calls God his Father, and the Father's throne is in heaven.  His spirit was formed by the Word of God as he obeyed it without sin unto death on the cross.  It was the Father dwelling in him by His Spirit whom he was obeying, and the Father came down from heaven and spoke to humanity through him.  This what and how the scriptures state that he came down from heaven. Now unless you can show me that he came down from heaven in some other way by the scriptures, you can forget about trying to tell me that I am wrong. That the Father sent him is speaking about the Father sending him into the world as his Christ, as he states here in John 17. This is what he said: Quote 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. Love in Christ, Marty

Marty

and yes ,marty we will trow away the following scriptures for your own pleasure ;right

Jn 6:33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
Jn 6:34 “Sir,” they said, “from now on give us this bread.”
Jn 6:35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty.
Jn 6:36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe.
Jn 6:37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away.
Jn 6:38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me

we ignore them so you can continue to be teaching BIAS INFORMATION

[NickHassan]

Hi 94,
Of course the bread from heaven was his anointing.

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 03 2014,03:52)

Hi 94, Of course the bread from heaven was his anointing.

Nick

show that in scriptures so i may believe it

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
You need eyes that can see.

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Quote (terraricca @ June 03 2014,08:03)

Quote (942767 @ June 03 2014,02:50) And so, how do you say that he came down from heaven?  I have told you what the scriptures state and that is that his body was conceived by the Holy Ghost in the womb of the virgin Mary, and he was born into this world a manchild.  The Holy Ghost is the Father's Spirit and Jesus calls God his Father, and the Father's throne is in heaven.  His spirit was formed by the Word of God as he obeyed it without sin unto death on the cross.  It was the Father dwelling in him by His Spirit whom he was obeying, and the Father came down from heaven and spoke to humanity through him.  This what and how the scriptures state that he came down from heaven. Now unless you can show me that he came down from heaven in some other way by the scriptures, you can forget about trying to tell me that I am wrong. That the Father sent him is speaking about the Father sending him into the world as his Christ, as he states here in John 17. This is what he said: Quote 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. Love in Christ, Marty Marty and yes ,marty we will trow away the following scriptures for your own pleasure ;right Jn 6:33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” Jn 6:34 “Sir,” they said, “from now on give us this bread.” Jn 6:35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty. Jn 6:36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. Jn 6:37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. Jn 6:38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me we ignore them so you can continue to be teaching BIAS INFORMATION

Wrong, I have not ignored them, but I have already told you that the said he gave his flesh for the world, and then he qualified this by saying that it was the Word of God that he was speaking, is what was spirit and was life. The life that he lived in his earthly body while here on earth

The bread of life is the Word of God that came forth from the Father through him, in his ministry here on earth and that he obeyed unto death of the cross, and it is this same Word of God that will give us who are born again, and obey his commandments life.

I don't know how to make it any clearer to you. I have already stated this several times before.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Marty

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Wrong, I have not ignored them, but I have already told you that the said he gave his flesh for the world, and then he qualified this by saying that it was the Word of God that he was speaking, is what was spirit and was life. The life that he lived in his earthly body while here on earth The bread of life is the Word of God that came forth from the Father through him, in his ministry here on earth and that he obeyed unto death of the cross, and it is this same Word of God that will give us who are born again, and obey his commandments life. I don't know how to make it any clearer to you. I have already stated this several times before. Love in Christ, Marty

so you really do not address the scriptures and my questions ,but you establish your own components in which you see what is convenient to you ,

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 03 2014,04:42)

Hi T, You need eyes that can see.

Nick

you can remove your dark glasses and put aside your withe cane , and give a break to your working dog ,

you only need a true godly heart to see God's truth ,

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Marty Quote Wrong, I have not ignored them, but I have already told you that the said he gave his flesh for the world, and then he qualified this by saying that it was the Word of God that he was speaking, is what was spirit and was life.  The life that he lived in his earthly body while here on earth The bread of life is the Word of God that came forth from the Father through him, in his ministry here on earth and that he obeyed unto death of the cross, and it is this same Word of God that will give us who are born again, and obey his commandments life. I don't know how to make it any clearer to you.  I have already stated this several times before. Love in Christ, Marty so you really do not address the scriptures and my questions ,but you establish your own components in which you see what is convenient to you ,

Pierre:

I have answered your questions, and if you have not understood what I have stated, I really don't know what else to tell you.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Hi Pierre:

I have tried to answer your questions, but you still have not tried to answer mine, and so, since you disagree with me, and say that Jesus came down from heaven in some other way than what I have stated to you, please tell me how he came down from heaven, and support your statement with scripture. Did he jump from heaven into the womb of Mary or did he just float down from heaven or did he parachute down or just how did he come down from heaven?

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Hi Pierre: I have tried to answer your questions, but you still have not tried to answer mine, and so, since you disagree with me, and say that Jesus came down from heaven in some other way than what I have stated to you, please tell me how he came down from heaven, and support your statement with scripture.  Did he jump from heaven into the womb of Mary or did he just float down from heaven or did he parachute down or just how did he come down from heaven? Love in Christ, Marty

Marty

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I have tried to answer your questions

No,you never did answer my questions and I have 100 's more what you will not be able to answer ,but you are making Christ a liar ,and that is the truth ,and you do not believe Christ either ,

and your question as been answered many times ;but like my answers need faith so it is with God's son ;if you do not believe in him and what he said then you are not one of his

Jn 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

it is for those that read this ,that i want them to know that you are not to be trusted with scriptural truth ,

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Quote (942767 @ June 03 2014,05:25) Hi Pierre: I have tried to answer your questions, but you still have not tried to answer mine, and so, since you disagree with me, and say that Jesus came down from heaven in some other way than what I have stated to you, please tell me how he came down from heaven, and support your statement with scripture.  Did he jump from heaven into the womb of Mary or did he just float down from heaven or did he parachute down or just how did he come down from heaven? Love in Christ, Marty Marty Quote I have tried to answer your questions No,you never did answer my questions and I have 100 's more what you will not be able to answer ,but you are making Christ a liar ,and that is the truth ,and you do not believe Christ either , and your question as been answered many times ;but like my answers need faith so it is with God's son ;if you do not believe in him and what he said then you are not one of his Jn 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. it is for those that read this ,that i want them to know that you are not to be trusted with scriptural truth ,

Hi Pierre:

Just go away. I am tired of talking to you.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ June 03 2014,10:32) Quote (942767 @ June 03 2014,05:25) Hi Pierre: I have tried to answer your questions, but you still have not tried to answer mine, and so, since you disagree with me, and say that Jesus came down from heaven in some other way than what I have stated to you, please tell me how he came down from heaven, and support your statement with scripture.  Did he jump from heaven into the womb of Mary or did he just float down from heaven or did he parachute down or just how did he come down from heaven? Love in Christ, Marty Marty Quote I have tried to answer your questions No,you never did answer my questions and I have 100 's more what you will not be able to answer ,but you are making Christ a liar ,and that is the truth ,and you do not believe Christ either , and your question as been answered many times ;but like my answers need faith so it is with God's son ;if you do not believe in him and what he said then you are not one of his Jn 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. it is for those that read this ,that i want them to know that you are not to be trusted with scriptural truth , Hi Pierre: Just go away.   I am tired of talking to you. Love in Christ, Marty

may God truth open the eyes of those that will read this ,and may God and Christ blessed them for having believed in the son of God ,amen

[NickHassan]

Hi,
God will send Jesus to those who repent and are baptised.[acts 3]
He is the key to unlocking the treasure chests of grace

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