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- March 21, 2019 at 3:01 am#844287GeneBalthropParticipant
Edj…..All those who truly believe and are baptized and have recieved the spirit of God are born again “spiritually” and are said to be , now son of God. But the ruling kingdom of Jesus and the Saint’s, has not yet come to this earth. IT DOSEN’T START TILL JESUS ‘ RETURN, and the first resurection takes place.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
March 21, 2019 at 5:49 am#844292Ed JParticipantHi Gene,
Many do not understand what the bible is teaching, so you are not alone.
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God bless
Ed JMarch 21, 2019 at 12:19 pm#844297GeneBalthropParticipantEdj…..Right you are, and you are living proof of that. You rendition of the Jesus’ kingdom on this earth Starting on pentacost, is so full of holes even a simple novice could tell you, you are dead wrong, not to mention you screwed up versions of Daniel’s interpretation of king NEBUCHNASSER’S dream of five secseding Bablyonian kingdoms before the setting up of the kingdom of God under Jesus Christ and the Saint’s , not even to mention his later prohhecy in the time of BELSHAZZAR’S REGIN, about the remaining four kingdoms.
Peace and love to you and yours ……..gene
March 21, 2019 at 1:59 pm#844298TruthcomberParticipantHi Edj:
You are correct.
New American Standard Bible
2 Cor 6:2 for He says, “AT THE ACCEPTABLE TIME I LISTENED TO YOU, AND ON THE DAY OF SALVATION I HELPED YOU.” Behold, now is “THE ACCEPTABLE TIME,” behold, now is “THE DAY OF SALVATION “–Young’s Literal Translation
Romans 13:11 And this, knowing the time, that for us, the hour already is to be aroused out of sleep, for NOW nearer is our salvation than when we did believe;New American Standard Bible
1 Cor 15:21 For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead.New American Standard Bible
Rom 6:3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection,…knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him…11 Likewise reckon you also yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God through Jesus Christ our Lord.Me: We will never die if we believe Christ to the end and endure to the end.
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?2 Cor 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
March 21, 2019 at 2:22 pm#844299TruthcomberParticipantHi All,
We enter the kingdom of God now. The kingdom of God is now. When Christ returns, the kingdoms of this world dissolve and the kingdom of God becomes the ruling kingdom never to be left to man’s rule again.
Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall NOT BE LEFT TO OTHER PEOPLE but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Dan 7:18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
Gene is getting the horns on the fourth beast mixed up with beast.
March 22, 2019 at 3:40 am#844317GeneBalthropParticipantTC…..You are forgetting that when that prophecy was given about the future FOUR kingdoms to come, Daniel was already in the first kingdom in fact at the very end of that first Bablyonian kingdom, whose king was Belchessar the son of NEBUCHNASSER, the head of Gold in the image . REV 17:10 IS exactly as I described it AND MEETS EXACTLY the prophesy of Daniel. The sixth kingdom is the kingdom of Jesus and the Saint’s of God.
HE THAT HAS EARS TO HEAR, LET “HIM” HEAR. .
TC, if you and Edj Believe you can’t die you both decieve yourselves, if that were the case then there would be no need for a resurection of the SAINT’S OF God. Common sense 101, Even Jesus himself died, didn’t he say, he was “dead” and “now” is alive forever. As Jesus died and was resurected so shall it be with all true Saint’s that have died , sence the beginning of humanity on this earth.
Act 17:32…..”and when they heard of the resurection of the dead “.
1Co 15:12…. ” Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead; how say “some” among you, that there is no resurection of the dead. Verse 13, “But if there be no resurection of the “dead “, then is Christ not risen,
Read all of Co 15:12-21 , and maybe you guys can see it more clearly.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
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