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Nick,
Was the law designed to be ineffectual?
It accomplished its goal though no man could live by it for it was dependent on man doing Spiritual works through their own effort. (Galatians 3:10-12)
So it was powerless to bring humanity to righteous of God for that can only be obtained faith that Jesus is the Christ.
Jesus, being the Christ, is the exception but even then he required faith. Of course he also is aware he the Christ.
Kerwin…..The word Christo’s, means the anointed one, so when was JESUS “anointed” while he was still in the womb or later as an adult, the anointing SPIRIT OF GOD EXISTED FOREVER FROM ETERNITY, AS FAR AS JESUS being the first to Have the ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD ,that is not true, the ANOINTING SPIRIT OR CHRISTO’S OF GOD was following the childern of Isreal in the wilderness, that was not Jesus, but GOD THE FATHERS SPIRIT, which he gave to MOSES as well as the Elders of Israel. Jesus was indeed anointed a Christos, but certanly not the first or only one, as scripture clearly shows.
Every Jew knows that the Messiah has to be a normal adult human exactly like Moses was, who has recieved the Spirit of God on him,JESUS NEVER did any mircales till after he recieved the ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD. HE WAS NOT tempted by the devil till then, when he was lead out into the wilderness to be tempted by him for 40 days and nights. And if he had already been tempted and overcame, then whys would it have to happen again?
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Danny Dabbs. …..IF YOU HAVE accepted GOD THE FATHERS SACRIFFICE of his SON JESUS for the forgiveness of your sins, and believe in your heart that GOD THE FATHER HAS RAISED HIM FROM THE GRAVE, you have passed from CONDEMNATON TO LIFE, AND ALWAY REMEMBER where sin abounds, “GRACE” does much “MORE” ABOUND. Also remember what scripure says, “if we confess our sins to the Father He is just to forgive our sins “AND” CLEANSE US FROM “ALL” UNRIGHTEOUSNESS .”
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Jesus received the Advocate but was not anointed to preach the word and do miracles until later.
Hi Kerwin,
Are you putting forth your own ideas again?
The bible calls Jesus our advocate.Hi KW,
Jesus the man obeyed the law to the satisfaction of God.
But not well enough to satisfy your theories.
Hi KW,
By grace we are saved.
The same with Jesus of Nazareth.
He found grace, and favour with his God.
Hi Nick,
Should we rip the parable of Mathew 21:33-40 out of our bibles because
you appear to be rejecting Jesus is talking about himself in verses 37-39?Hi Ed,
Why would you want to remove the truth?
Jesus Christ is the Son of God, by his anointing at the Jordan, and heir to the vineyard.
Mt 3.17 Lk 3.22,
Rom 1.4
Hi KW,
You rationalise in an attempt to give credence to your theories.
You deny truth in your attempts to justify your dogmas.
God did not offer a law that was doomed to failure.
But it could not bring men to perfection.
The job of sanctification is that of the Spirit
Danny Dabbs. …..IF YOU HAVE accepted GOD THE FATHERS SACRIFFICE of his SON JESUS for the forgiveness of your sins, and believe in your heart that GOD THE FATHER HAS RAISED HIM FROM THE GRAVE, you have passed from CONDEMNATON TO LIFE, AND ALWAY REMEMBER where sin abounds, “GRACE” does much “MORE” ABOUND. Also remember what scripure says, “if we confess our sins to the Father He is just to forgive our sins “AND” CLEANSE US FROM “ALL” UNRIGHTEOUSNESS .”
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Wow, good post Gene. I am totally on-board with that.
I no longer believe that God is a Trinity.
I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son OF God.
There is a God and He has a Son. The Holy Spirit is God’s own Spirit, not another person.
On the point of pre-existence I’m still not sure.
Danny
That is awesome. It is in line with Peter’s confession and Jesus commended Peter as he said that the Father revealed that.
Jesus is the messiah, the son of God, the Lord, and the image of the invisible God. He is the greatest besides God his Father.
The good news is our calling is to be like Jesus Christ. We will have a body like his and he calls us brethren.
🙂
Ed,
Hi Kerwin,
Are you putting forth your own ideas again?
The bible calls Jesus our advocate.The AV of the KJV calls the Advocate Comforter. Jesus is one Comforter and the Spirit of God is a second one. (John 14:16) The same base Koine Greek word is translated to advocate in reference to Jesus in 1 John 2:1 in the AV of the KJV.
If you believe Jesus has been united with God, at least, since he was first tempted by sin then it follows that you to believe he had the Spirit of God, which is the other Comforter. It is just one of missions God assigns to his Spirit to accomplish. Another role is gift giver. It has a third role of miracle worker. Those are the three missions I can think of offhand but there are most likely others.
T8
does the scriptures really sayswhat you say in your last statement just before mine , that Philippian 3;15 says that some may not have that heavenly call ,also in Jesus sermon on the mountain Jesus says that many will go on earth and so be resurrected in a body of flesh ,Gene,
JESUS NEVER did any mircales till after he recieved the ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD.
Isaiah 55:10-11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
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For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven,
and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth,
and maketh it bring forth and bud,
that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
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so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:
it shall not return unto me void,
but it shall accomplish that which I please,
and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it
Is the Spirit of God always sent on the combined mission to give gifts and to renew the spirit?
Nick,
At theories is closer to the truth of what they are.
It may instead be a fact but I am never sure whether I fail to see something or not.
The bottom line is that you fail to see where your hypothesis tests false.
Luke 4:18-19Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 to preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
There is only mention of Jesus receiving the gifts of teaching and perhaps healing in this passage. There is not one mention of him being born of the Spirit in it. Never the less you claim to see it and refuse to give up that claim as false.
Terrarica,
Addressing t8 as @t8 is more likely to get his attention as it lets him know he is being notified. This post will serve that purpose since I used it.
Hi KW,
He was given the fullness of the Spirit.
Trying to divide the Spirit into various anointing is folly.
Kerwin, the SPIRIT IS “OF” THE LORD AND IT IS THE “ANOINTING” THAT GOD ANOINTED HIM WITH, that spirit is not JESUS’ SPIRIT, BUT THE SPIRIT HE RECIEVED INTO HIM, that turned the ordinary man JESUS INTO THE MESSIAH OF GOD. IT IS A REBERTH, AS IT IS WITH US, WHO HAVE RECIEVED IT. THAT IS WHAT MAKES US A BROTHER TO JESUS. HE IS SIMPLY THE “FIRSTBORN” OR FIRST ONE WHO HAS RECIEVED THE SPIRIT, IN THE FAMILY OF GOD THE FATHER, and as a result holds the office as the firstborn child in the family OF GOD FROM THE “BORN” HUMAN RACE.
If Jesus already had the ANOINTING SPIRIT AT BERTH, THEN WHY WOULD HE HAVE RECIEVED IT LATTER., NOT TO MENTION THERE WOULD BE NO POINT FOR HIM TO ALREADY BE ANOINTED AND THEN REANOINTED LATER AT JORDAN BY JOHN the BAPTIST. All of his anointed works started after he was baptized by John, nothing before that took place inscripture. He was not sent out into the world to preach till after his anointing.
That I believe is Nick’s point,and mine to. What happened to Jesus, must also happen to us, We must be born again just like he was.
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Nick,
Hi KW,
He was given the fullness of the Spirit.
Trying to divide the Spirit into various anointing is folly.
Anointing is a correlation to what is accomplished by the pouring of oil on the head of priests and kings. Those are in fact separate anointings as no priest was appointed to be a king nor was any king appointed to be a priest. Jesus was appointed to be both and therefore “anointed” twice. Do not get wrapped up in symbols and so misuse them.
What you claim is the Spirit is not sent on different missions by God but always performs the same tasks which is rather easy to disprove.
In Luke 1:35 the Spirit was given the mission the cause the miraculous conception of Jesus in Marry. According to you it neither 1) cause anyone to be born in Spirit or 2) granted anyone any of the gifts of the Spirit.
Your claim is broken and therefore false as Scripture cannot be broken.
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