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Proclaimer …..I was alive then and remember that ,there were millions of people infected with the polio virus , and I knew three personally . Dr. Jonas Salk, invented a Vaccine that wiped it out completely in our country and most the world.
Those vaccines greatly aid our immune systems in fighting viruses. May all here please get your shots.
peace and love to you all and yours……….gene
Proclaimer, you didn’t answer my question. You asserted that there would be more deaths and long term symptoms without the mRNA injection they’re calling a “vaccine”. I asked for data that supported that assertion. If you have none, you should just say that.
Proclaimer: …a young person still suffering from fatigue who needs to sleep up to 20 hours overnight sometimes in the weekends. Another cannot taste food.
My son got the “no taste” effect when he got Covid. I had that happen to me when I got Bell’s Palsy about 12 years ago. Except my food had zero taste for about 6 months, while his only lasted a week, and he said everything tasted like week-old gravy. So my son was sick and slept a lot for a week – and then it was over. Among those who even get symptoms at all, this is the case for 99% of people. You get the flu, you feel like crap for a few days, and God’s immunity system takes care of the rest.
As with the seasonal flu, if you are morbidly obese, have health issues, or are already very old and frail, Covid can really attack your lungs (by DESIGN we’ve come to learn) and put you in the hospital or even kill you. Did you know that the US had ZERO excess deaths last year over any other year? The US had only 1800 flu cases in 2020 – compared to the usual 30-40mm. Do you see what happened there?
Also, did you realize that the medical term “case” has ALWAYS referred to someone who had symptoms. In 2020, they changed the meaning to include anyone who even tested positive (with faulty PCR tests that were rigged to 40 amplifications), even though the vast majority of “positive cases” never ended up having any symptoms at all. And when has there ever been a push for HEALTHY people to get tested for a cold or flu? In the past, you come down with symptoms first, and THEN have a doctor run some tests if it’s really bad. So why are we all of a sudden testing healthy people with no symptoms?
It’s clear that you, Adam and Gene are in the dark about what’s really going on here. Do you remember when President Trump talked about taking HCQ as a prophylactic, and the MSM viscously attacked the very notion, saying that HCQ would kill you (even though it was FDA approved in 1955 and has been used by BILLIONS of people since then with no side effects)? Trump mentioned a doctor from upstate New York who had been having great success treating Covid with HCQ. Here is an interview from yesterday with that very doctor. It is only 30 minutes long (less if you listen at 1.5 speed like I do). I encourage you to listen to this front line doctor who has cured thousands of Covid patients, and knows what he’s talking about.
That will at least get you guys in the ballpark of what this “plandemic” is all about.
Proclaimer: So I did my own research Mike and kept it related to my world.
If your research includes only MSM sources, then you haven’t done ANY actual research. Remember when we talked about Israel? You easily found a MSM source to tell you that even though 80% of the nation was vaxxed, their extremely high hospitalization rate was due to the relatively few unvaxxed, right?
But then I showed you the MSM articles where Israel was about to release the FOURTH booster, right? Now, using your God-given common sense, ask yourself why they’d need to give VAXXED people a fourth shot if the overflowing hospitals were really due to people who had no shots at all.
Understand now? If the trouble was with the unvaxxed, then there’d be no reason to even talk about more shots for those who were vaxxed – because they weren’t the ones in trouble. The vaxxed people are already safe because the vax works, right? And so the vaxxed people are not the ones filling up the hospitals, right?
Ah… but if MY sources were right that the hospitals were full of those who’d already been vaxxed, then the need for a FOURTH shot would make sense, wouldn’t it? (Wait until you find out that these shots aren’t even intended to help you, and that the more of this poison they can get into you, the better it is for their genocidal utopia. That’s the real reason for the multiple boosters.)
You will eventually come to learn that the MSM is paid PROPAGANDA. Their job is to LIE to the public, and do anything they can to help control the NWO narrative. If the MSM says “X”, you can bet your bottom dollar that the actual truth of the matter is the complete opposite of “X”.
Adam: Mike, Miia and few others think that the Vaccine is the Mark of the Beast based on the ancient texts of First Century CE than trusting the Science and Medicine of our day.
Your ignorance is on full display here, Adam. First of all, I don’t think this biological weapon you want us to have injected into our bodies is the mark of the beast.
Secondly, “science” is the process of investigation. There is no such thing as “settled science”, as we are always finding out more things. Furthermore, scientific investigation uncovers raw data, and those data say absolutely nothing one way or the other about any subject. Those data must be interpreted by flawed men, many of them with biases favoring the wills of their donors, and some of them just plain evil. So if Big Pharma is the employer that puts food on your kid’s dinner plates, and they want you to come to a conclusion that Polyethylene glycol (the active ingredient in antifreeze) is okay to be injected into human beings, then what conclusion are you going to come up with?
(Here is an excerpt from a US Military Doctor’s recent whistleblower complaint about these “vaccines, supporting their use of Polyethylene glycol.)
25. Other journals and scientific papers also denote that this particular ingredient has never been used in humans before.4 To be abundantly clear, one of the listed primary ingredients of these injectables is Polyethylene glycol (“PEG”) which is a derivative of ethylene oxide. Polyethylene Glycol is the active ingredient in antifreeze. While it is hard to believe this is a key ingredient in these vaccines, it would explain the increased cardiovascular risk to users of the BioNTech or Comirnaty shots. I cannot discern what form of alchemy Pfizer and the FDA have discovered that would make antifreeze into a healthful cure to the human body. Others seem to agree my point per recent scientific studies that caused a group of 57 doctors and scientists to call for an immediate halt to the vaccination program.5 In short, this antifreeze ingredient is being studied for the first time in human injectables. According to the VAERS data, which admittedly underreports by as much as 100 times the actual SAE’s, there are well more than 600,000 documented Serious Adverse Events (ones requiring medical attention) alone and more than 13,000 fatalities directly linked to this particular vaccine. I cannot understand how this vaccine remains on the list of available options to treat Covid, when there are so many other non-deadly or injurious options available.
(Hey Proclaimer, it is well established for decades that adverse reactions to vaccines are severely underreported to VAERS – by as much perhaps 100 times less than the actual adverse reactions. Yet despite this underreporting, “there are well more than 600,000 documented Serious Adverse Events (ones requiring medical attention) alone and more than 13,000 fatalities directly linked to this particular vaccine.” Quite a difference from your anecdotal evidence of a few people with sore arms and short-lived fevers, and maybe one dude who died from the vax, don’t you think? Now take those numbers and multiply them by 100 for a better picture. And to top it off, with this injection, many doctors are expressly FORBIDDEN from even reporting to VAERS! You can hear that from the doctors themselves in Project Veritas’ recent undercover whistleblower video: https://twitter.com/EricSpracklen/status/1440103482086756355?s=20
This video was from a hospital right here in Phoenix, and was so shocking that US Congressmen have started an investigation into these claims that doctors aren’t reporting the SAE’s to VAERS…
Senator Townsend expressed her concern with the video. “I am not surprised to hear of these allegations from this hospital. Complaints such as these are becoming increasingly more frequent, along with allegations of other public hospitals committing medical discrimination against the unvaccinated… I have received reports out of Tucson of patients being grossly neglected due to their vaccine status. This cannot stand in our state. I have advised the family members to make a complaint to the Department of Health Services and I hope it is investigated immediately.”
So imagine just how many “sore arms and fevers” there really are if ALL severe adverse reactions were reported! And keep in mind that when the swine flu vax in America reached 25 deaths, they pulled it immediately. Yet VAERS shows at least 13,000 deaths, and instead of pulling it, they’re MANDATING it? What part of this seems normal to you?)
And thirdly, Adam, as Miia already pointed out, there is NO comparison between the “medicines” mentioned in the Bible and the Big Pharma controlled entity known as “Western Medicine”. Big Pharma doesn’t get rich by CURING people of cancer and other maladies. They get rich by KEEPING YOU SICK so you must keep buying their man-made chemical agents (made in labs, not nature) for the rest of your life. For example, Pfizer has profits in the tens of billions just for this one particular biological weapon they’re currently injecting into billions of people. Do you really believe this is about helping people? Tens of billions in profits within a single year?
Adam: Please open your eyes and visualise the reality in our world today. Please get the Vaccine and save yourself and save others.
That’s a hard and fast “No way!” from me. Hopefully this stuff I’m showing (and about to show) will help you to open your eyes and visualize the ACTUAL reality in our world today.
Berean:Mike
quickly, what is MSM?
Thanks
Sorry, the MSM is the “mainstream media”. Did you know that only 6 entities own and control 90% of the media?
Sky News Australia is the best media company IMO. Most others are just propaganda outlets. In NZ, we have few decent media companies. During Covid, they got millions from the government as help and they give the current government a free pass on everything.
MSM is mostly corrupt. They peddle lies.
Quite a difference from your anecdotal evidence of a few people with sore arms and short-lived fevers, and maybe one dude who died from the vax, don’t you think?
Yes it is harder to do a big study in NZ given that we have 5 million people. But everyone is connected. I may not know someone, but there is a big chance that they know someone I know. If there were deaths we would know about it. We don’t need the MSM. And I am saying that in my small world, that the vaccine has way better results than those without. Of course, that is not conclusive proof when talking about all people who inhabit this globe, but it is a sign that points to the vaccine working. And that is all I am qualified to say on this subject that I have personally observed.
Yes I agree with Proclaimer, after rapid Vaccination in India we could control massive deaths here with 1.4 Billion population. The Delta Plus variant affecting only with mild symptoms and no major hospitalizations. I think Mike is not trusting Science and Medicine. Yes there are exploitation and fraudulent businesses in medical field but that doesn’t mean we should stop taking medication for our ailments. COVID19 is hard reality and we need to address it with Science and Medicine. And not with religion which is not reliable at times of Pandemic.
Thinking Vaccine as the mark of Beast is another myth.
Here is an example of saying it as it is. The king has no clothes on. I wish we had media like that in NZ.
Miia
Man of lawlessness takes his seat in the temple of God (body of mAn – plural).
The temple of God or of the Holy Spirit ALSO means THE CHURCH as an assembly, a Body whose head is CHRIST
Eph.2: For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
[19] Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
[20] And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
[21] In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>holy temple</span> in the Lord:
[22] In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.1Tim.3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
Man of sin = antichrist originally
Come FROM Christian people
Little children, it is the last time: and <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>as ye have heard that antichrist shal</span>l come, even now are there <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>many antichrists;</span> whereby we know that it is the last time.
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[19] <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>They went out from us, but they were not of us; </span></h2>
<h2><span style=”color: #ff0000;”> for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.</span></h2>Berean, Yes thank you.
Miia…..Yes John did say, “even “now” there are “many” Antichrists . That was said at the very beginning of the church imagine what it like “now” if at the beginning there were “many”.
Read the teachings of the Gnostic’s , who John was talking about, compare it to the teaching of the Trinity, and you have a match.
They preached that Jesus preexisted his birth on this earth and was sent from the PLURAof the God’s. That he was only disguised as a man, but in reality was a God .Miia, even if you say the temple of God is us, that is correct by the way, Paul said “know you not that your “Body” is the Temple of the living God” , you have that right, so tell me what ” man” is sitting in your BODY which is the Temple of God and being worshiped as your God “NOW” ?
Miia, I ask you this question, which I have ask before, who is your “FIRST” love, is it God the Father or Jesus Christ it can’t be both, it does make a difference, according to Jesus. Rev 2:4.
Miia, Jesus also told us who should be our “FIRST” Love. And it wasn’t him.
Matt 22:37peace and love to you and yours……….gene
Gene, you know I disagree with you, but we do agree where the temple is, at least.
Rev 2:4, who is my first love that I had fallen from? It was God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit).
… why do you suppose the video Miia shared was deleted by YouTube? You people need to wake the heck up already! The social media giants (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Google, etc) are COMPLICIT in the takeover of the New World Order. They will ban any post or video about the election steal, natural cures for Covid and cancer, the hundreds of thousands of adverse affects and deaths associated with the vax, and the second oldest newspaper in America for reporting on Hunter Biden’s laptop that contained sex with minors and Joe Biden making deals that hurt Americans to enrich his family. They even completely banned the sitting President of the USA! And yes, they’ve also been banning and shadow-banning flat earth vids for years. Ask yourself why the powers that be don’t want people to see anything that doesn’t toe the official narrative line.
Answer: If they keep the majority of people like Proclaimer and Gene from SEEING the truth, then people like Proclaimer and Gene only see the lies. And if people like Proclaimer and Gene only see the lies, then those are the only things they repeat to other people. And the result is that we have a world full of people who run around spouting LIES they’ve been told, and shouting down people like me and Miia who have figured out where to look for truth.
The good news is that millions across the world are figuring out where to look for truth now. And that scares the deep state so much that they’re now sending police to the HOMES of Australians to interrogate them about things they’ve said on social media!
Proclaimer, don’t you even know about the forced lockdowns in Oz? Don’t you know that cops are shooting protesters with rubber bullets now, and even tackled an 80 year old woman to the ground (breaking her hip) and sprayed pepper in her face?
Did you know…
Mike, yep it is shocking. I mainly use Facebook these days, but everything is hidden and censored and people and pages banned. I do have one video though that has not been censored by Del Bigtree and Dr Ruby, shared 300 times, 2k views, because they could find nothing to put on it! They knew it was the truth (regarding the state of blood under microscopes after the covid V). I will try and add it here later. I am glad you are awake 🙂
Mike said:
According to Public Health England’s COVID-19 variant report, between February 1, 2021 and September 12, 2021, 52% of delta cases, 47% of emergency care visits, and 71% of delta deaths had at least one of dose of the vaccine.
Do you see the scam yet? It has never been about a “virus” with a 0.02% mortality rate (less than the seasonal flu). It has always been about CONTROLLING the sheep and drastically reducing the population. These evil people want a world with a population of 500 million, with about 3000 elites ruling over them as kings over slaves. The vax will end up killing and/or sterilizing virtually everyone who took it.
Think it out for a minute…
If the vax you took protects you from Covid, then why must I get vaxxed too?
If the vax you took doesn’t protect you from Covid, then why should I get vaxxed?
You can’t argue against the logic there. So that means you must come up with a VALID reason why this vaccine push has been so forceful and prominent around the world. I look forward to hearing what Gene and Proclaimer have to say about why the world would offer free stuff, get endorsements from famous people, coerce and threaten people, and even make them choose between getting vaxxed or losing their jobs… all for a “vaccine” that doesn’t stop you from getting OR spreading Covid – which is itself just a flu with a 99.98% survivability rate.
Logical thinking required. What do you have for us, Proclaimer? Gene? What explains this push to get everyone vaxxed?
Yeah, and the shocking thing is that young people have an almost 100% chance of surviving the virus, but now they want to vaccinate the kids. That makes me so angry. Especially when some of us know what this vaccine will do to them.
Also, they have a cure or treatment for covid. If they used those treatments, like Ivermectin… imagine how many people would have survived covid!? They had to ignore those cures /treatments just so they could push through the vaccine, because the only way they could have the untested vaccine approved for a pandemic is if there was no other option. There was big money to be made by some people.
Mike said:
What will you do with the wormwood plants? Eat the leaves? Make tea of them? Just curious as this is the first I’ve heard of it. In America (for the time being), there are online sites where you can get prescriptions for HCQ and Ivermectin.
It might interest people to know that Ivermectin (which won the Nobel prize for it’s inventor) is a natural anti-bacterial formula that has been FDA approved and used by millions for a long time. HCQ has been used by billions for over 50 years now. They stop Covid in its tracks. But the mere mention of these things will get you banned from FB or Twitter or YouTube, etc. Why? And then on top of that, the MSM pushes blatant lies about them – saying they will kill you. Why?
Now, considering that these natural remedies are anti-bacterials, would it interest you to know that they have been shown to cure cancers in peer reviewed scientific studies? Hmm… Is cancer a bacterial infection? Is Covid?
Hey Miia, I saw that the video you linked was taken down by YouTube. I watch a lot of my people on Rumble now, since YouTube banned them for speaking truth. A lot of them are also using Odyssey and BitChute.
One of my favorite channels is And We Know. He is a Christian who ends each vid with prayer. Great info! Here is his newest (which I haven’t yet seen)…
Wormwood: Tea, I think is made.
Lucky you can get Ivermectin online. We can not here in New Zealand – at all.
Interesting about cancer and Ivermectin.
Thanks for the video channel link, I will definitely check it out.
Yes, YouTube is taking down all videos, FB is not quite so bad for personal timeline posting. They will cover and censer it, but the option is usually still there to view. Groups and Pages, however are being shut down. Even Messenger (private messages) are being watched and blocked. We all use code. My cousin accidentally used the word vaccine, and the private conversation was blocked!? I just like the challenge, of posting on FB.
Do you see the scam yet? It has never been about a “virus” with a 0.02% mortality rate (less than the seasonal flu). It has always been about CONTROLLING the sheep and drastically reducing the population. These evil people want a world with a population of 500 million, with about 3000 elites ruling over them as kings over slaves. The vax will end up killing and/or sterilizing virtually everyone who took it.
Absolutely. Bill Gates (who apparently is running the whole thing), said years ago the world population needed to be reduced. It is very very very sad. I had a vivid warning dream in 2020. There were not many people left on the earth in my dream. My mother also had a warning while praying about the vaccine. My son (aged 19, lives with his dad), said the same thing that I saw in my dream. Things are going to get hard, so hard.
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