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Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and for ever.
[9] Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace;HEBREWS 13
Bible: Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and for ever.
Gene & Jodi: Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and DEFINATELY NOT for ever.
Bible: to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.
Gene & Jodi: to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, BECAUSE OF Jesus Christ our Lord, DEFINATELY NOT before all ages, BUT now and forevermore! Amen.
Hmmm. Once again, I go with the Bible.
So many scriptures that speak of Jesus before he came in the flesh. Today I choose this one about the Son. Each point made here is true.
The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
Trying to preach or teach against who Jesus is has got to be the one of the most stupidest things a person can do. Are you not aware that salvation is found in no other?
Hi Jodi,
YOU: apply other scriptures to Hebrews 1,
Psalms 89:27 Also I will MAKE him my firstborn,
higher than the kings of the earth.
Jodi, AREN’T YOU IN THE POSITION TO EXPLAIN HOW AND WHEN GOD MADE
JESUS HIS FIRSTBORN?
higher than the kings of the earth.
ARE YOU PREOCCUPIED?
Jodi, Psalm 89 contains 52 verses!
Out of the 52 verses you picked out
No. 27 and ignored all the OTHER VERSES which completely reveal the truth of WHAT THE VERSE 27 MEANS!
NOT SIMPLY LOOKING AT IT LITERALLY AND CARNALLY IN HUMAN TERMS
YOUR SPECIALITY! BUT ALSO BUT ALSO SPIRITUALLY AND DIVINE!
THE FACT THAT
GOD MADE HIM
HIS FIRSTBORN, WHEN IN ACTUAL FACT JESUS WAS/IS ALWAYS ETERNAL ONE SUBSTANCE WITH THE FATHER!HEBREWS 1:3.
John3:12 If I have spoken to you earthly things, and you believe not;
how will you believe, if I shall speak to you heavenly things? (Jodi???)
13 And no man hath ascended into heaven,
but he (“THE WORD” JESUS,
THE SON(DIVINE) OF MAN)
that descended from heaven,
the Son of man
WHO IS IN HEAVEN.
YOU: Jesus DOES change,
he goes from a mortal
ME: THE ABOVE JODI IS THE FIRST PURE
LIE!
EXPLAIN Jodi,
HOW JESUS IN John 3 ABOVE DECLARED THAT
HE DESCENDED FROM HEAVEN
PRE-EXISTED,
AND IN THE SAME TIME
HE GOES FROM MORTAL!
FIRST AND FOREMOST HE COMES FROM HEAVEN.
JESUS WAS NEVER MORTAL IN THE SAME SENSE AS HUMAN ARE
AS SINNERS, HUMANS WHETHER THEY WANT TO OR NOT
THE SIMPLY
DIE
JESUS, HE HIMSELF OPTED TO DIE AS HE HIMSELF
IS ETERNAL LIFE,
THE ONLY HUMAN BEING TO HAVE
THE “POWER” TO DIE!
John10:18 No man taketh it away from me:
but I lay it down of myself, and
I have POWER to lay it down: and
I have POWER to take it up again.
This commandment have I received of my Father.
Jesus raised himself up Jodi
AFTER HE GLORIFIED PRECISELY
ON HIS DEATH John13:32-33, 1Peter 3:18
GODMAN ON EARTH
OUR LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST!
HAVE YOU Jodi possess a kind of POWER to die.
THE ONLY POWER HUMANS ARE MAD ABOUT TO POSSESS IS PRECISELY
THE POWER NOT TO DIE!
Now Jodi, read Psalm 89:48
Who is the man that shall live,
and not see death: (JESUS ON HIS DEATH)
that shall deliver his soul from the hand of hell? (JESUS GLORIFIED
GODMAN, AND PREACHED HIS GOSPEL IN HELL, BY WHICH TASK ALL THOSE IN HELL FOR THE FIRST TIME
EXPERIENCED ETERNAL LIFE AND KNEW IN JESUS
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, John17:3,)
1Peter 3:18 Because Christ also died once for our sins, the just for the unjust: that he might offer us to God,
being put to death indeed in the flesh,
but enlivened in the spirit,
19In which also coming
he preached to those spirits
that were in prison: (HELL)
YOU: to an immortal being given eternal life,
the above is the second
lie
JESUS OWNED AND POSSESSED
ETERNAL LIFE
YOU: and he is MADE a firstborn of many brethren.
ARE YOU IN THE POSITION TO EXPLAIN,
NOT JUST SAY,
WHEN JESUS WAS MADE A FIRSTBORN
OF MANY BRETHREN???
BY THE WAY: READ SCRIPTURE PLEASE AND RESPECT IT:
Romans 3:18 For whom he foreknew, he also predestinated to be made conformable to the image of his Son;
that he might be
the firstborn “AMONGST” many brethren
NOT OF MANY BRETHREN!
Now I am ONLY posting
THIS PARTICULAR VERSE LIKE YOU DID FROM PSALM 89. HERE IT IS:
45Thou hast shortened the days
of his time:
thou hast covered him with confusion.
SAY SOMETHING Jodi regarding the above verse BY WHICH YOU PROVE
THAT JESUS DID NOT
PRE-EXIST
Hebrews:1:11 They shall perish,
but thou shalt continue:
and they shall all grow old as a garment.
12And as a vesture shalt thou change them,
and they shall be changed:
but thou art the selfsame,
and thy years shall not fail.
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
...and without him was not any thing made that was made.(John 1:3b)
Without HIM
Without
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adverb from cwra – chora 5561; at a space, i.e. separately or apart from (often as preposition):–beside, by itself, without.Carmel……what does “firstborn” mean, let me explain that to you, obvisely you don’t understand the very word “firstborn” , WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE “BORN” “FIRST”, was Adam “Born”, or created as the first Human being, he was not Born he was “created” , “because God created them, “in the image of God created them , male and female ‘CREATED” HE THEM. ”
NEITHER Adam nor Eve were “born” , because inorder to be “born” you must come into “existence” through a birth process, of a womb of a women.
Jesus was the “first” born, “human” being, “born’ of a human being to enter the kingdom of God and recieve eternal life , by the resurection from the dead.
The first “BORN” OF HUMAN ORIGINS.
if you were of the truth you would have understood that, but you just force the scriptures to say what ever you want them to say, then go about calling others “carnel minded” , that’s a joke at best.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Proclaimer. ….First you agree that God created everything for the purpose or reason , of the man Jesus, then you deny it by saying he did it “through” him, , we Jodi and I produce scripture after scripture , showing you exactly what we are saying m backed up in our text, but you people just bulldozer over everything we quote from scriptures as if they were not even in your bibles.
Then even when you finely agree, you even then twist it up and obscure the truth, you like the blind groping at the wall bound to maintain your own blindness. “SAD”. We can’t even get one point settled, so how can we all move forward?
Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene
Gene
John 1: 3b without question
shows us that Christ is creator...and without him was not any thing made that was made.(John 1:3b)
Without HIMWithout
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adverb from cwra – chora 5561; at a space, i.e. separately or apart from (often as preposition):–beside, by itself, without.Berean, yes it was definitely in view of the “man ” Jesus and all humanity as well that “GOD” “ALONE AND BY HIMSELF”, CREATED EVERYTHING THAT PHYSICALLY EXIST. The whole physical creation is from God “himself,” for all of “perfected” humanity,of which Jesus is the “first” but certanly not the last.
Go Back and read the scriptures I “QUOTED” in Heb 2. it’s all there, for anyone who has eyes to see. Why ar e you so hung up on trying to make Jesus not appear as a human being? Do you poses a dark view of God’s human creation? God sure thought it was GOD, infact he said “very” good”.
Are you now greater the Almighty God?
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Gene
the dark point in your head is that you refuse what John says in his prologue
In particulary:
…and without him was not any thing made that was made.(John 1:3b)
Without HIM
Without
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adverb from cwra – chora 5561; at a space, i.e. separately or apart from (often as preposition):–beside, by itself, without.God created the universe through the Son and then he sent his son into the world. He emptied himself and started his life in the flesh as a baby who grew up like us to learn like us.
but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death even death on a cross.Hi Gene,
YOU: Carmel……what does “firstborn” mean, let me explain that to you,
obvisely you don’t understand the very word “firstborn” ,
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE “BORN” “FIRST”,
ME: Gene, I’ m afraid you are back to the old story! You are stuck, I REPEAT:
YOU ARE STUCK TO YOUR CARNAL MINDED REASONING/INTELLIGENCE Gene!
YOU: obvisely you don’t understand the very word “firstborn”
NO Gene, I’m afraid YOU ARE NOT ALIVE YET!
SPIRITUALLY.
YOU STILL HAVE
TO BE BORN AGAIN!!!!
WHEN ONE READS SCRIPTURES HE NEVER TAKES IT LITERALLY, SINCE IT IS THE WORD OF GOD WRITTEN, AS GOD IS SPIRIT AND HIS
TERMS, THOUGHTS AND WAYS ARE ALL SPIRIT.
Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts: nor your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
9For as the heavens are exalted above the earth, so are my ways exalted above your ways, and my thoughts above your thoughts.
YOU: NEITHER Adam nor Eve were “born” , because inorder to be “born” you must come into “existence” through a birth process, of a womb of a women.
ME: Gene, GOD HASN’T GOT A WIFE, BUT HE STILL HAS AND PRODUCES FIRSTBORNS, BUT DEFINITELY HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
SEX, SPERM, OVUM, and DNA, NEVER MIND SEXUAL REPRODUCTION.
READ:
Ezekiel 37:5 Thus saith the Lord God to these bones:
Behold, I will send SPIRIT
into you, and you shall live.
6And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to grow over you, and will cover you with skin: and
I will give you spirit
and you shall live, and you shall know that
I am the Lord.(NOT A MORTAL HUMAN BEING)
YOU: because inorder to be “born” you must come into “existence” through a birth process, of a womb of a women.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING WITH YOU REASONING AND BLINDNESS?
Gene, JESUS MADE IT CLEAR:
WHAT IS BORN OF THE FLESH IS FLESH, AND
WHAT IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT!
THEY ARE BOTH
BORN
BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.
Now here comes another BIRTH Gene OR AS YOU PREFER
“FIRSTBORN” WHICH either YOU OR Jodi HAVE TO EXPLAIN!
BUT FOR GOD’S SAKE
ABANDON YOUR CARNAL REASONING FOR A CHANGE!
1Colossians 18……the firstborn from the dead;…..
OK Gene, WHEN IT COMES TO SCRIPTURES EVEN
FROM THE DEAD YOU AND ALL HUMANITY
MUST BE BORN! Now get this INTO YOUR
CARNAL DEAD MIND
JESUS WAS THE FIRSTBORN FROM THE DEAD,
BUT NOT FOR HIS SAKE Gene!!!
YOU: Jesus was the “first” born, “human” being,
“born’ of a human being to enter the kingdom of God and recieve eternal life , by the resurection from the dead.
The first “BORN” OF HUMAN ORIGINS.
ME: ALL THE ABOVE ARE PURE LIES! BUT LET’S LEAVE THAT FOR NOW!
WHEN IT COMES TO MY QUESTION, IT WAS NOT REGARDING THE WORD “FIRSTBORN” AS SUCH!
Read my full question TO THE SILENT and POOR Jodi!
YOU: and he is MADE a firstborn of many brethren.
ME: ARE YOU IN THE POSITION TO EXPLAIN,
NOT JUST SAY,
WHEN JESUS WAS MADE A FIRSTBORN
OF MANY BRETHREN???
BY THE WAY: READ SCRIPTURE PLEASE AND RESPECT IT:
Romans 3:18 For whom he foreknew, (THOSE WHO WOULD BELIEVE IN JESUS)
he also predestinated
to be made conformable to the image of his Son;
that he (JESUS)
might be (not made)
the firstborn “AMONGST” many brethren!!!!!
NOT OF MANY BRETHREN!
ATTENTION Jodi, and YOU Gene:
JESUS, in terms of scripture, which needs clarification, WAS ALL BY HIMSELF before the world was, BOTH
THE SON OF GOD, AND THE SON OF MAN!
AND THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIM
LIKE US CHRISTIANS,
WOULD AUTOMATICALLY
BE MADE
HIS BRETHREN!!!
THUS, JESUS WOULD NOT REMAIN ALONE AS
SON OF GOD/SON OF MAN
BUT HE WOULD HAVE OTHERS
MADE
LIKE HIM. 1 John 3:2 Dearly beloved, we are now
the sons of God;
and it hath not yet appeared
what we shall be.
We know, that, when he shall appear,
we shall be like to him:
because we shall see him
AS HE IS.(ETERNALLY)
THUS HE WAS ALWAYS THE SELFSAME!!! Hebrews 1:12
THE SON OF GOD/SON OF MAN.
OTHERS WOULD JOIN HIM THROUGH FAITH IN HIM, IN ORDER TO BE MADE
HIS BRETHREN,
NOT HE HIMSELF BE MADE
LIKE OTHERS SATANIC and MORTAL OF EARTH. DESPITE HE CAME
IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN!
HE WAS ALWAYS OF HEAVEN!!!
Gene, if you were of the truth you would have understood that,
but you and Jodi, just force the scriptures to say what ever you want them to say,
that’s why I go about calling YOU “carnal minded”,
and that’s not a joke at best.
as you said
Peace and love in Jeus Christ
Carmel…..as I said you change texts to meet your false assumptions over and over, nothing seems to be what it actually says to you, that is written in our scriptures, nothing is real or actual.
Carmel I don’t know who messed up you thinking over the years, but you really need to quite calling others Carnel, and thinking you are “spiritual”, because you change what is written almost every time you post. No one gives you the right or the authority to do that.
As far as The truth goes , Jodi nor I need you to explain what the scriptures say , the “spirit of truth” teaches us, that is how we know and understand what scriptures say and mean. Or haven’t you ever read, where Jesus said, “you shall all be taught by God” it is God the Father that teaches him and us also, by his Spirit of truth given us , who truley believe.
“brethern you have no need of a teacher , for the Spirit itself teaches you all things”.
That is why Jodi and I both know the truth , when we hear it, and you are not telling the truth Carmel. I realize you don’t realize it yet.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene
To all……Tell us what point would that prove to mankind, if God took a preexisting “perfect” eternal being who he created everything through, a killed him, and had him become a “mortal ” being, explaine to us how that would prove anything to “mankind”, that would defeat God’s plan for the human race he created right off the bat.
But If God took the Seed of Abraham, “and placed it into a women” , and brought forth a non preexisting pure 100% human being, “exactly” as we are, and by his SPIRIT perfected him to the point he would lay down his very life, his only life he ever know, for the rest of all mankind.
That would prove a “HUGH” point to all humanity of the power of the LIVING GOD and what he can do in ALL OUR LIVES, which would be “Exactly” what he did in the “man” Jesus’ life.
Jesus was a real example of the potential for all humanity, because he was “exactly” the same as we are, not any different at all, a real human, (not a God, Angel, or what ever in Proclaimer’s case) , “desguised” as a real human being, but was “really” something else. Who preexisted his birth on this earth. Making him “actually” different then us.
You people have bought into the biggest “lie” that has been Fostered on mankind. “a LIE” that Satan himself created. Go read 2ths2, it’s all there for those who have eyes to see it.
Satan wants you to think Jesus is different then we are, and nearly all Christanity is on his side, so where are you people, who’s side are each of you on, The side of the truth , or the “Lie”?
Peace and love to you all and yours. ……….gene
Berean and All,
Paul teaches CLEARLY in Hebrews and Romans, that Jesus is a Son of God according to a PROMISE that He made to king David.
Paul teaches CLEARLY that Jesus is a human who is God’s Son ACCORDING to God’s SPIRIT.
1 Chronicles 17:11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 12 He shall build me an house, and I will establish his throne for ever. 13 I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee: 14 But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore.
HEBREWS 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Psalm 89:3 I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant, 4 Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah…..
….8 O LORD God of hosts, who is a strong LORD like unto thee? or to thy faithfulness round about thee?…
….11 The heavens are thine, the earth also is thine: as for the world and the fulness thereof, thou hast founded them….
….20 I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him: 21 With whom my hand shall be established: mine arm also shall strengthen him. 22 The enemy shall not exact upon him; nor the son of wickedness afflict him. 23 And I will beat down his foes before his face, and plague them that hate him. 24 But my faithfulness and my mercy shall be with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted. 25 I will set his hand also in the sea, and his right hand in the rivers. 26 He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation. 27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. 28 My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and my covenant shall stand fast with him.
Paul does not speak of Jesus being a firstborn as some pre-existing begotten Son, Paul speaks to Jesus being God’s Son ACCORDING TO A PROMISE and ACCORDING TO GOD’S SPIRIT, by PROMISE Jesus received the Spirit, and where the Spirit is there is righteousness and life, and those who are DIRECTED BY the Spirit/LED by it, are the Sons of God.
Berean and Proclaimer,
You want to explain that?
Please explain how it is in Hebrew that Jesus is identified as God’s Son according to the WORD OF GOD from prophecy, and NOT because he pre-existed.
Romans, Hebrews, Acts all speak to Jesus as God’s Son according to the words of the prophets.
What Paul says in Romans 1 and 8 just goes in one ear and out the other to you folks.
Jesus is God’s Son according to the Spirit, which he was begotten with at the river Jordan and then again when he was raised from the dead, God’s word of Psalm 2 and 89 fulfilled. Jesus was raised from the dead made into an eternal Son, a firstborn of many brethren, as we are joint heirs with Jesus, Sons of God through being led by the Spirit.
To All,
All throughout the OT you are told the MEANS to which our One True God the Father YHVH created heaven and earth.
YHVH did so by Himself, ALONE, by means of His Spirit, by means of His power, by means of His Wisdom, by means of His own Voice, by means of His Word where that which He speaks cannot be held back.
All throughout the OT you are told the PURPOSE as to why YHVH created heaven and earth, the very reasons as to what His creation was FOR.
Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. 18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. 19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. 20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed. 21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. 22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands. 23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them. 24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear. 25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.
Isaiah 66: 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
What does Jesus say,
Matthew 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? 28 And Jesus said unto them,Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. 30 But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.
What does Paul teach,
Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
1 Cor 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put* all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Ephesians 5:9 For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;
2 Peter 3:12-13
looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.BY MEANS OF YHVH’S SPIRIT ARE ALL THINGS CREATED
and
MANKIND WAS CREATED FOR THE GLORY TO HAVE YHVH’S SPIRIT ALL IN ALL, INHABITING EARTH LIVING IN HIS IMAGE FOR ALL ETERNITY.
Gene
Jodi
Everything you say is useless except to sink ever deeper into the incomprehension of the Word of God.
God did not birth a man to be the savior of others men.Jesus was worshiped from birth, which is never usually done … even angels refuse to be worshiped by humans (Rev. 22: 8,9)
No God gave his only OWN begotten Son to save the world by which he also created the world (John 3:16; Rom. 8: 3; Heb. 1: 2)
…. without him (The Word / Jesus) was not any thing made that was made. (John 1: 3b)
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