JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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  • #811093
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    The Holy Spirit is not a name but a description of the holiness of the Spirit of God and His Son.

    The Spirit will always baffle those of the world who demand that boxes be filled.

    #811526
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ and the Spirit of the Father.

    Scripture teaches clearly that Jesus is the Christ. It often doesn’t even mention Jesus and says, ‘Christ’ only, but is still clearly referring to Jesus.

    Romans 5:6
    You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly.

    If the Holy Spirit is the spirit of Christ, then that would mean that the Holy Spirit died, @NickHassan.

    I think this proves your assumption to be a false one if indeed you have no distinction between Spirit of Christ and Christ.

    We also read that the head of Christ is God. Thus if your idea were correct, then instead of woman > man > Christ > God, we could say, woman > man > Holy Spirit > God and Jesus is removed from the headship.

    1 Corinthians 11:3
    But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

    What does Christ really mean to you Nick, if the Spirit of Christ is God. Is Christ God to you too or not?

    And did Lightenup teach you this doctrine or did both of you come to this conclusion independently even though you both argued over this in a different time. If the latter, perhaps you should contact her and tell her that you have been converted now?

     

    #811527
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    Christ is the anointed man Jesus.

    He died for the ungodly.

    #811528
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Jesus is eternally one with the Spirit.

     

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

    What God has joined together let no man put asunder.

     

    #811529
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    The Spirit of Christ is one with the Spirit of God.

    Jesus is the Christ, the anointed one.

     

     

    #811530
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    Is Christ God?

    The Son of God is not God.

    The Spirit of the Father and the Son is in the sons of God

    #811532
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    You still not not understand the transforming effect of the Spirit on Jesus.

     

    #811533
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    What scripture does not teach is that Jesus always was the Logos.

    But you do.

    #811558

    John chapter 1: 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
    14And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
    Based on Scripture not opinions and foolish ramblings of men.
    1. The Word was in the beginning with God.
    2. The Word was God.
    3. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us (that Word was the one we now call Jesus Christ.)
    4. Since all things were made or created by or through Him, how could He have been created? Did He create himself??? (answer that one Mikeboll64???)

    I have quoted the Word of God. Keep on arguing against the truth of God and one of these days you will stand before Him and He will ask you why you wrote those awful things you did about Jesus Christ not being God.

    #811559
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Richard,

    Yes he claimed to be the Son of God.

    I accept that teaching?

     

    God was in him reconciling the world to Himself.

    God was not in God.

    #811561
    kerwin
    Participant

    Richard,

    You simply quote without the letter of Scripture.

    The logos is the logos. The connection between Philo’s and John’s teaching is well know and Philo of Alexandria did not teach that the logos was the Christ. He did and does teach the logos has the qualities of God as some of those who teach Jesus is God but unlike them those qualities did not include being God.

    Philo lived during the life of Jesus and those who contradict him came after him teaching a teaching that was not taught among the Jews. Jesus did not create a new religion but instead set into being a new covenant.

    John’s use of the term logos reveal is audience was similar to that of Philo and/or those that had already heard the laters words. It was certainly not those that had been steeped in the belief that the Christ was God.

    #811568
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Philo has no spiritual fruit.

    Just another philosopher.

    #811572
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Richard,

    The Word was God, not is God.

    I proceeded forth and came from God.

     

    Listen to the Spirit in Jesus Christ

    #811576
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    Misunderstandings occur very frequently on this site so please correct me if I am wrong.

    #811580
    carmel
    Participant

     

    God was not in God.

    Hi Nick,

    First and foremost:

    You and all of us have a soul!

    My soul is myself from the spiritual side point of veiw!

    My body is myself from the dead flesh and blood body point of veiw!

    When one by the name of Nick dies, we all say that Nick died and Nick is in hell like all of us most probable WHERE WE ALL end up to, Myself deserves only Hell, but full of hope and trust in THE DIVINE MERCY JESUS! NOT IN GOD THE FATHER!

    HE IS THE SOURCE TO REACH THE FATHER,

    HE IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD,AND JESUS CHRIST.

    FOR THE PLEASURE OF THE FATHER, IN ORDER FOR THE FATHER TO ESTABLISH HIMSELF AS

    THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST!

    ON THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD!

    SO if this Nick died and we also say that Nick is in hell, which confirms that the Nick and his soul was one substance and the same person while he was on earth!And on the last day of the Lord Nick the soul would be united eternally with his genuine appropriate flesh body, that as I said confirms that NICK AND HIS SOUL BECOME ONE SUBSTANCE ETERNALLY!
    ONE PERSON!

    IN THE GLORY OF JESUS CHRIST!

    NOW JESUS CAME IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN EXCEPT SIN

    HE WALKED ON EARTH IN THE SAME WAY AS NICK DID! THEREFORE ONE SUBSTANCE, ONE PERSON, THE FATHER IN THE SON AND THE SON IN THE FATHER, THEREFORE GOD IN MAN , AND MAN IN GOD!

    GOD IN FLESH AND BLOOD!

    JESUS!

    THIS JESUS, DIED HIS SOUL THE HOLY GHOST IN THAT INSTANT GLORIFIED WITH JESUS GENUINE FLESH AND BLOOD BODY, AND WENT STRAIGHT INTO HELL AND PREACHED AND LIBERATED ALL THOSE WHO ACCEPTED HIS GOSPEL!

    JESUS’FLESH AND BLOOD BODY RESURRECTED AS MAN IN THE GLORY OF SON OF MAN! NON MORTAL MAN LIKE ADAM WAS MALE AND FEMALE, ANDROGYNOUS! IN THE IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD!

    BOTH JESUS’ SOUL THE HOLY GHOST IN THE GLORY OF JESUS AND JESUS’ FLESH AND BLOOD BODY INTEGRATED AND BECAME:

    ONE UNIQUE GLORIFIED DIVINE SUBSTANCE FOR ETERNITY!

    GOD GLORIFIED AS MAN!

    THE ONLY PROVEN GOD ON EARTH!

    IN THIS STATE ONLY JESUS CHRIST WAS IN THE POSITION TO SUPPLY THE GLORIFIED HOLY GHOST FROM WITHIN HIMSELF OF WHICH HE DID WHEN HE ENTERED THE LOCKED ROOM AND SHOWED HIMSELF IN HIS GLORIFIED BODY!

    HE IS THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT BEING FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER! GODMAN!

    HE IS RULING THE ENTIRE UNIVERSES FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER! GOD MAN!

    HE WILL REMAIN SO TILL THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD!

    WHEN THE FATHER, GOD KNOWS WHEN, WOULD EVENTUALLY OCCUPY JESUS’ GLORIFIED BODY, AND JESUS RETURNS WITHIN THE BOSSOM OF THE FATHER AS HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING!

    SO “THE WORD” WAS GOD IN THE BEGINNING:

    BUT NOW “THE WORD” IS GOD AND IT REMAINS SO FOR ETERNITY!

    FOR THE PLEASURE OF THE FATHER WHICH ON THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD WOULD MEAN:

    THE FATHER IN THE BODY OF THE SON, WHICH ALSO MEANS

    THE SON IN THE BODY OF THE FATHER!

    SO THE FATHER IS THE SON AND THE SON IS THE FATHER IN:

    JESUS CHRIST

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #811584
    carmel
    Participant

     

    Yes the mariology deception has it’s advocates.

    Nick, and All: “THE WORD”

    Part three: The truth of who is “THE WORD”

    With respect to the conclusion of the last post, the endeavour of this and the subsequent posts, as the case may be, is to reveal hidden truths in John 14 related to the outstanding and unfathomable versatility of:
    THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, “THE WORD” THE SON OF MAN, ETC………… The fact that’s ALL IN HIM…………

    John14:1 Let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, BELIEVE ALSO IN ME!

    The first phrase that is MOST prominent in this declaration is: let not YOUR HEART be troubled!

    Jesus in His speeches gave importance to the heart enormously, obvious, up to Jesus time SCRIPTURALLY human heart was of STONE with Satana’s presence, who initially abided in Eve’s HEART/soul warranted by her disobedience, and in her appropriately created filthy FLESH AND BLOOD substance, and by which
    SATANA’S FEMALE ENTITY, established herself within Eve’s HEART/soul, and consequently in all her eventual offsprings’souls, and became the mother of all the damned,

    till God, principle wise, by The spirit of the Son, in the same way Satan became Eve’s HEART/soul, by his presence within:

    GOD’S FEMALE ENTITY, “THE WORD” Jesus, created Mary, became Mary’s HEART/soul, and the mother of all the saved.
    Let’s have a look at some vital verses in this regard:

    Luke 6: 45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth that which is good: and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth that which is evil. For out of the ABUNDANCE of the heart the mouth speaks.

    In the Above Jesus gave an analysis of two different and OPPOSITE kinds of hearts in the presence of humans. He ended this statement and said: out of the ABUNDANCE of the heart……… So the human Heart/SOUL, was either mostly treasured in good, in the presence of A GOOD MAN, the generations of the heaven, or mostly treasured in evil, in the presence of AN EVIL MAN the generations of the earth. This is a clear manifestation on earth of the conflict between the Spirit of the Son, “THE WORD” and Satana, within the actual souls, in the presence of

    Dead flesh and blood human beings!

    Clearly depicted in hundreds instances in scriptures, and particularly in two of Jesus’ apostles Judah, and Nathanael, and likewise in the pharisee Nicodemus, and Annas the high preast.

    Now let’s read another statement by Jesus in:

    Matthew 15:19 For from the heart come forth evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies.

    In the above statement Jesus indirectly made it clear that His MAJOR task was to generally within all humans, and JUSTLY re-establish spiritually what Eve by her disobedience, contaminated and ruined therefore

    SPECIFICALLY the HEART,

    God in this regard, also predicted Jesus’ statements emphatically and specifically throughout the OT, and hereunder are two most particular verses:

    Ezekiel 11:19 And I will give them ONE HEART, and will put a NEW SPIRIT in their BOWELS.
    Ezekiel 36:26 And I will give you a NEW HEART, and put a NEW SPIRIT within you: and I will take away the STONY HEART out of your flesh, and will give you a HEART OF FLESH .

    Notice, in 11:19 the prophet says: I will give them ONE HEART, and in 36:26 he says: I will give you a NEW HEART. Then again he repeated emphatically and said: I will take away the STONY HEART…….and will give you a HEART OF FLESH.

    Only once God pronounced the phrase HEART OF FLESH! This is to make us aware that it is a reference to Eve’s heart, without soul before she sinned, and WHICH UNFORTUNATELY EVENTUALLY she acquired a DEAD SOUL ON SIN WITH SATANA’S PRESENCE WITHIN!

    SHE BECAME THE MOTHER OF THE DAMNED CREATION! ALL CREATION GOOD AND EVIL, WITHIN EVE, DEPICTED IN CAIN AND ABEL!

    Also in both verses, apart from the task related to the HEART, which is indirectly a reference to the SOUL within the heart, the prophet ASSERTED, that God would furnish humanity also with A NEW SPIRIT in THEM and specifically in their BOWELS. Which is a clear reference to the SOUL in the mind

    So God through the Spirit of the Son, “THE WORD”achieved two DIFFERENT tasks, ONE related to the HEART, the LIFE source of the actual body, AS EXPLAINED ABOVE ATTRIBUTED SPECIFICALLY TO EVE’S HEART, and ONE related to the mind, ATTRIBUTED SPECIFICALLY TO ADAM’S SOUL/ INTELLECT,the SOURCE of all thoughts and behaviours of the actual FLESH AND BLOOD BODY, which through Eve’s disobedience,and Adam’s pride, became totally and specifically a Satanic substance, but hidden and sealed in it, as THE ONLY LIFE SOURCE OF ALL, slain like a lamb was ENGRAFTED the

    Spirit of the Son.Rev 13:8.

    Now keep that in MIND, that as Satan IS ONE ANDROGYNOUS MALE AND FEMALE spirit, and through sin he occupied both the SOUL in the MIND, and the SOUL in the HEART, specifically in the entities of Adam and Eve, THE DAMNED GENERATIONS OF EARTH.respectively. In the same way God accomplished these two different tasks ALSO BY ONE ANDROGYNOUS MALE AND FEMALE spirit, and established THE HOLY GENERATIONS OF HEAVEN! Mary’s genealogy! And BOTH generations formed MARY’S FLESH AND BLOOD BODY, in the same was as Eve was formed in Cain and Abel!

    ALL FOR JESUS TO OWN AND REDEEM! WHICH HE DID!

    ALL BY/IN/FOR

    THE SPIRIT OF THE SON “THE WORD” JESUS, specifically in
    MARY’S SOUL and JESUS’ FLESH.
    MARY IS JESUS IN HER SOUL AS MUCH AS JESUS IS MARY IN HIS FLESH!

    CONFIRMED:

    1Corinthians 11:11But yet neither is the man without the woman, nor the woman without the man, in the Lord.
    SINCE ALL BY HIM…………..

    The above detail is already explained in both previous posts, but it is vital to keep you aware of it.

    Now this genuine truth, that all was accomplished , by ONLY ONE spirit, the Spirit of the Son,” THE WORD” Jesus, was completely rejeced by Satan, simply due to the fact that when Satan as was his normal procedure through sin, took Jesus’soul, THE HOLY GHOST, to hell in the glory of Jesus’ flesh body, Jesus actual body was in the grave, and Satan’s physical concept corrupted mind concluded that GOD BEGUILED HIM, somehow!!! Obvious Satan was never allowed by God to see His SPIRITUAL deeds in full, since he was the actual DEAD MATTER source!

    WHAT IS SPIRIT SPIRIT, and what is flesh is flesh, and THE SPIRIT GIVES LIFE, and the flesh counts for nothing! Mr. Satan.

    Unfortunately for us though, WE ARE STUCK, and it is the reason that humanity is still in this horrible mess of sin, death and hell, till it is officially manifested PHYSICALLY on earth again THE TRUTH, when DESPERATELY, in his last attempt, Satana’s human presence in the FEMALE ENTITY herself, since the MALE ENTITY cause is over and done with WON by Jesus on the cross, comes on earth and proclaim herself:

    The FEMALE GOD, simply and only so within a flick of an eye,
    MARY, the mother of all souls,in the HEART, THE CHURCH!

    DISSOLVES AND REPLACES SATANA’S FEMALE ENTITY WITH HER PRESENCE!

    SHE/HE WILL CRUSH HER/HIS HEAD!

    But all that in more details in the appropriate post!

    This in a way, it seemed predicted in Christmas, last year in the open, when a topless activist with words ‘God is Woman’ written on her body rushed the nativity scene in St Peter’s Square and snatched baby Jesus before trying to flee.

    Now, back to our subject:

    So it makes more sense to tackle the issue of the soul in the HEART attributed to Eve and Mary first, then the issue of the soul in the MIND attributed to Adam and Jesus!

    But all that in the next post!

    Peace and love in Jesus/Mary
    Charles

    #811585
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,

    gnostic nonsense.

    #811725
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    Christ is the anointed man Jesus.

    He died for the ungodly.

    and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

    #811729
    terraricca
    Participant

    if we deny that Jesus is THE LOGOS then we have fail in our faith and not come to know the one God our father send down to fulfill the law and redeem us of our sins

    #811733
    kerwin
    Participant

    t8,

    and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

    Then Christ must be the Law of Moses for that is the Spiritual food and drink they ate according to Scripture.

    Of course we should read the whole sentence and even that might be best to read in context.

    1 Corinthians 10:1-4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    10 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 and were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 and did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 and did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

    Romans 7:14Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

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