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- December 9, 2015 at 1:12 pm#805888kerwinParticipant
Nick,
Revelations 11.
And they of the tribes, and peoples, and tongues, and nations, shall see their bodies for three days and a half
And after three days and a half, the spirit of life from God entered into them.
And they stood upon their feet
And they heard a great voice from heaven, saying to them: Come up hither.
And they went up to heaven in a cloud: and their enemies saw them.
This does not support you.
December 9, 2015 at 1:18 pm#805889kerwinParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
Flesh contributes nothing.
Flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom.
If your hope is in the flesh it is in futility.
So why are not taking the words of God Spiritually.
Do you not know that Eve is flesh and bone of Adam and that Scripture testifies the soul is in the blood?
Animals have souls.
December 9, 2015 at 1:25 pm#805890NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
You do not recognise the symbolism of the two witnesses?
You think they are people?
December 9, 2015 at 1:26 pm#805891NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Life for flesh beings is in the blood.
The spirit is eternal life.
December 9, 2015 at 1:44 pm#805892NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Do you not recognise the symbolism in the resurrection in the valley of dry bones?
December 9, 2015 at 2:19 pm#805893kerwinParticipantNick,
Yes, life for natural man is in the blood but eternal body is the Spirit quickened flesh and bone body.
Adam and Eve has a Spiritual body but sin bound it to corruption. (Romans 8:21)
December 9, 2015 at 2:26 pm#805894kerwinParticipantNick,
The book of Revelations is a book of symbolism but you sited it as evidence. What is you explanation for Matthew 27:53 where the the spirit of life entered the body of the saints when Jesus arose and after they bear witness in Jerusalem they are never heard from again.
December 9, 2015 at 2:28 pm#805895kerwinParticipantNick,
When Jesus went he was in his flesh and bone body. Why add to Scripture by claiming the heavenly body is different. Do you believe God’s creation was flawed?
December 9, 2015 at 3:58 pm#805896NickHassanParticipantHi K!
The views of Jesus in Revelation do not show a battered human body.
But you assume he still had one-for eternity?
December 9, 2015 at 4:00 pm#805897NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
You do not believe 1cor 15 about the new body?
December 9, 2015 at 4:03 pm#805898NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Those who had died after being enlivened by the Spirit rose as Samuel had.
Those who sleep in death can be wakened.
December 9, 2015 at 4:07 pm#805899kerwinParticipantNick,
It is you that do not believe that Jesus’ resurrection is an example of the final resurrection not me.
It is also you that does not believe in the Spirit quickened body not me.
You also believe Jesus’ resurrected body was tattered not me. I believe it has scars that he bears with honor.
December 9, 2015 at 4:08 pm#805900NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
So now you say there is so much symbolism in Revelation none of it can be taken as real?
December 9, 2015 at 4:10 pm#805901NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
When King Jesus appeared before the Father in dan 7 was he clad in his battered old body.?
December 9, 2015 at 4:13 pm#805902NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Do you think we will get hungry and have to find food and drink?
Will there be queues for the loo?
I do not think you understand much about the kingdom.
December 9, 2015 at 4:20 pm#805903kerwinParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
When King Jesus appeared before the Father in dan 7 was he clad in his battered old body.?
You are making up the battered body because you do not understand the language.
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December 9, 2015 at 4:22 pm#805905kerwinParticipantNick,
You are the one who speaks of the old body. The new body is quickened by the Spirit and so the life in blood is of no matter.
December 9, 2015 at 4:25 pm#805906NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
No-you claim he was raised to heaven in the body he was buried in.
flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.
The flesh body is of earth and is corruptible.
December 9, 2015 at 4:25 pm#805907kerwinParticipantNick,
You are the one that claimed symbolism in Revelations and I simply agreed with you. Are you going to pick and choose what you call symbolism and what you do not?
December 9, 2015 at 4:28 pm#805908kerwinParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
No-you claim he was raised to heaven in the body he was buried in.
flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.
The flesh body is of earth and is corruptible.
One again you are the one that chooses to take the words “flesh and blood” literal while I view them as symbolically representing the body that is enlivened by life in its blood. The new body is quickened by the Spirit and the life in the blood is irrelevant.
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