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Hi Andrew,
We can think that the angels who sinned in Gen 6 would have human type bodies.
Other examples occur elsewhere in scripture.
But we also know that men will not marry in the Kingdom as we will be like the angels.
Hello Nick,
Just be careful of these evil spirits and they could be released with more evil power in these last days.
Nick…..what about all the scriptures that say things like they eat manna a physical food, or they sleep, or the can physically appear. ANGELS ARE SAID TO ONLY BE A “LITTLE” ABOVE US, WHAT you re saying is that they are spirit beings, that would mke the far above us in existence. Psm as well as HEB BOT ADDRESS THE FACT THAT GOD MAKES THERE SPIRITS AND SEND THEM , Angels “HAVE” SPIRITS, THEY THEMSELVES ARENOT IN NO WAY SPIRITS THEM SELVES NO MORE THEN WE ARE OURSELVES SPIRITS, WE HAVW SPIRITS “IN” US, JUST AS JESUS ALSO HAD NOT ONLY HIS OWN SPIRIT IN HIM BUTALSOHAD THE SEVEN SPIRITS OFGODINHIM JUST AS REVELATIONS CLEARLY SAYS. YOU ARE COMPLETELY UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE THEMSELVES “BEINGS” NOT ATRIBUTES OF BEING. SO YOU SIMPLY CAN’T MAKE TRUE SENSE OUT OF SCRIPTURES CONCERNING SPIRITS, IF YOU DID UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURE CONCERNING SPIRITS YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND SPIRITS COME IN ALL KINDS AND TYPES, both clean and unclean, they can give us an sound, and unsound minds, they produce good and evil, wisdom, and fear, truth, and delusion, they are what effects all of our “INTELLECTS” RATHER YOU BELIEVE THAT OR NOT , IS IRRELEVENT, THAT IS STILL THE TRUTH. YOU BELIEVING THAT SPIRITS ARE PERSONS THEMSELVES IS WRONG, THEY ARE types and kinds of atributes that make up a PERSON mind, effecting the way he or she thinks, a single person can have thousands of them in him and that will greatly effect his or her state of being.
Bottom line is you HAVEN’T a clue, what a spirits really are NICK. YOU HAVE ONE SCRIPTURE IN HEBREWS quoted from and TRY TO USE IT TO SAY WHAT IT REALLY IS NOT SAYING BOTH KERWIN AND I HAVE EXPLAINED IT TO YOU, BUT YOU PRIDE IS PREVENTING YOU FROM ACKNOWLEDGING THE TRUTH. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene
Nick,
Where did I claim that Cain had a humble spirit?
You made the claim he had a proud spirit and when asked to show evidence could not do so and tried a diversion.
They are opposites so denial of one is the same thing as claiming the opposite. So your lack of belief that Cain has a proud spirit means you believe he has a humble one.
Proverbs 16:19Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly,
than to divide the spoil with the proud.Nick,
God created animals out of earth as well. I have heard some claim he created his messengers out of air and his servants out of fire.
hi KW,
Your presumption is staggering.
To ask you for evidence for what you say is to you a claim that I believe the opposite.
Did you study logic?
Hi KW,
So where does scripture show that animals were made from earth or is it another presumption?
And asking this does not prove I believe the opposite.
Nick,
Do not realize you accuse me of being ignorant? You do not seem to realize what you are saying. If a man declares water is wed then he also means it is not dry. You are attempting to create a middle state between humility and pride which does not exist. If Cain had any opinion of his own importance then he was a proud spirit but if he had no opinion of his own importance then he was a humble spirit.
If Cain was a humble spirit then he would not have had a motive to murder Able as he would have accepted God’s judgement but it was his own opinion of his importance that led him to become jealous of Able and therefore embrace the temptation to murder him.
Hi KW,
So now you redefine logic according to your own standards?
Having destroyed logic do you still stand by it as an arbiter of truth?
And you add your own inferences in interpreting the sacred words?
Kerwin…..NICK SIMPLY DOES NOT KNOW WHAT SPIRITS ARE, he believes spirits are not, whats “in” angels, like us, but spirits themselves “are” angelic beings, he can’t even understand that animals are physical creations made from physical earth just as we are, even though many scriptures showes we are made the same as they are.
His only way out of his predicument is to try to turn things around by making off the wall PERSONAL ACCUSITORY statements that question our GOD GIVEN LOGICAL CONCLUSIONS TO THOSE SCRIPTURES THAT BACK UP WHAT WE ARE SAYING. EVEN WHEN WE DIRECTLY POST SUPPORT SCRIPTURES HE IGNORES THEM AS IF THEY ARE NOT EVEN IN THE BIBLE. HE IS NOT HERE TO ADVANCE UNDERSTANDING OF GODS WORD, IN A LOVING SENSE, BUT TO CONFUSE AND DESTORT THEM, TO MEET HIS “OWN” ARROGANT PRECONCLUDED REASONINGS.
I have ask him over and over to post a scripture that even uses the term “ANGELIC SPIRITS”, he has never produced one, and he accuses us of posting our own ideas that scripture does not say , yet he says things without any scripturial support at all. He is exactly what you said trying to pull a speck out of our eyes, and can’t see the beam in his own eye.
You have said that right Kerwin. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ………………..gene
Hi GB,
There is some doubt that your LOGICAL CONCLUSIONS are from God.
If they were would you not find scriptural support?
Nick,
Scripture does not say angels do not have spirits and yet you do. I assume you do so in order to support your own doctrine.
Spirit calls angels ministering spirits thus revealing that they do indeed have spirits. If you choose not to believe Scripture then that is on you.
Hi KW,
There are many things that scripture does not say.
To BE a ministering spirit means to HAVE a spirit to you?
Is this ok by your logic?
Nick…..Again with the tricks, you simply can not admitt you are wrong can you, kerwin and myself have tried to show you your error, but your pride is preventing you from admitting it. You skirt around anyway you can to avoid the truth, and all the time trying to lead us to believe you are taught by the anointed one, like we are not.
peace and love to you and yours. …………………gene
Nick,
Hi KW,
There are many things that scripture does not say.
To BE a ministering spirit means to HAVE a spirit to you?
Is this ok by your logic?
I already pointed out that is one possible meaning in English and also in Hebrew. If you want to debate with that fact then do so but it is not rational behavior.
If you either choose to ignore or not take into account the context then it has other meanings as well.
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