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HI MB,
Yes we know the 'Word' is not interchangeable with' the Holy Spirit'
The Word is the Spirit of ChristQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2014,05:52) Hi T,
That house is the new body awaiting believers in the heavenlies.
So,house,temple,spiritual bodyQuote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 18 2012,19:15) Hi,
The Spirit of Christ is the WORD.
The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy[rev19]
Nickhassan.Not exactly.
The spirit of truth is in the Word.
The Word is of God.John 16:13 Howbeit when he, **the Spirit of truth**, is come, he will guide you *into all truth*: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and **he will shew you things to come**.
John 16:14 **He shall glorify me**: **for he shall receive of mine**, and shall shew it unto you.
wakeup.
mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
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The thing is that all of those scriptural phrases are said about JESUS – not about “Lucifer”Mike,
I TOLD YOU!
YOUR WORLDLY WISDOM IS WEAK, AND IT WON'T LET YOU SEE THE TRUTH!
YOU ARE ON MILK I'M AFRAID MIKE!
Quote Says the guy who doesn't even have enough wisdom to spell “too weak” correctly! 
(Just messin' with ya!)YOU SEE MIKE, YOU CONFIRMED THAT YOU ARE ONLY GOOD IN WORLDLY WISDOM!
FROM THE OTHER HAND ALTHOUGH I AM ONLY GOOD IN GOD'S WISDOM, I WAS STILL ABLE TO MAKE YOU SEE WHAT I WROTE! WRONG IN WORLDLY WISDOM!
Go behind me, Satan, because YOU ARE CONCERNED not on the things that are of God, but that are of men.
ALSO MIKE, WITH EVERY RESPECTTHE FACT THAT YOU TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE SOME CARNAL USELESS PLEASURE IN SAYING THAT IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE:
FINISHED DOWN THE DRAIN! WITH YOUR ARGUMENTS!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote If I said the words, “I am”, the “I” part would refer to the entirety of me. Mike,
OK!
AND WHAT THAT INCORPORATES?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2014,14:54) Hi wakeup,
Did John see the Spirit of Truth?
1 Jn1
Nickhasssan.No one can see the Holy spirit,but can feel Him if He comes
and visits us.
He is the eye opener; the spiritual eye.
No man can see the spirit of man in him,but can see
by the desires/lust of that man.Every man has his own spirit.(not breath of life).
Some love football continuouesly;that is his spirit.
Some love making money,some love power.
Some are satisfied with a little,and God fearing.
These are the spirits of the flesh.These are the desires of the flesh.The apostles did see Jesus and touched him.
The flesh they could see;the spirit they could not physically see,but could feel and hear the words spoken.wakeup.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2014,09:59) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2014,07:59) we know that wallace said Christ is the Word in john 1.1 and you agreed but…
did you read the latter part of wallace's statement? he said Christ is God. do you agree?
I agree with Wallace's conclusion that the Word is Jesus Christ. But I didn't learn that from John 1:1. It is the rest of the first chapter of John's gospel that teaches us who the Word that was with God in the beginning is.And the main thing I learned from Wallace is that John wrote 1:1 in a way that keeps us from identifying “the Word” with “God”. And the “God” in 1:1b is clearly the Most High God, Jehovah.
There is nothing in John 1:1 to make Wallace conclude that Jesus is also that Most High God. And there are other scriptures in the NT that clearly identify Jesus as the Son, Servant, Priest, Prophet, Lamb, and Messiah OF the Most High God, Jehovah.
So no, jammin……… I don't agree with Wallace's conclusion that Jesus is also God – nor do I see any place in scripture that led him to that conclusion.
All I know is that his final conclusion actually contradicts the things he had already taught us about 1:1.
it is because you do not understand what wallace said.Christ is God phil 2.6
john 1.1
john 1.18
john 20.28
and many many more verses that give us proof about the deity of Christ.Hi Wakeup,
Everyone has their own spirit which returns to God at death[Ecc12]The destructive lusts of the world in our flesh are what destroy our bodies[2peter 1]
Such were Paul's enemies[rom7 sin in the flesh] and are ours too[Jas 4.1]
They war against our members while we walk the earth.We need the new home in the heavenlies as our old bodies are doomed.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2014,04:47) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 02 2014,13:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2014,21:32) …….the bottom line teaching of what you and your sources have written is that the Word who was with God in the beginning actually BECAME the flesh and blood human being Jesus Christ. Do you agree with that?
Mike,Yes, I agree that the word that was [with] God in the beginning became the flesh and blood human being Jesus Christ.
Kerwin,You're gonna need some shades pretty soon. It seems that a lot of light is beginning to shine on you lately.
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 02 2014,13:44) I am not saying the word literally became him which may be a point of confusion.
Oops. I guess some of the fog yet remains after all.Okay Kerwin……… WHY? Why don't you believe the Word literally became Jesus Christ? Doesn't John 1:14 say the Word BECAME the one who dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son? And wasn't that only begotten Son Jesus Christ?
Mike,Hebrews 11:3
New King James Version (NKJV)3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.
The word that framed the worlds figuratively became Jesus just as the God is figuratively love.
kerwin,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote The word that framed the worlds figuratively became Jesus just as the God is figuratively love. Kerwin,
YOU ARE WRONG!
GOD IS NOT FIGURATIVELY LOVE!
GOD IS LOVE ITSELF
GOD IS A LOVE STATE BEING
SATAN IS AN EVIL STATE BEING
NOW REFLECT ON THIS AND ANSWER:
THE WORD IS A GOD'S WORD STATE BEING!
NOW CAN YOU DISCERN WHAT THAT MEANS?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote The Word OF God is not “God Himself”. Mike,
THE WORD IS GOD IN A DIFFERENT FUNCTION!SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR:
FIRST IN THE BEGINNING:
THE SON, THE WORD WAS IN THE FATHER'S BOSOM! AND GOD CREATED ALL THE HEAVENS THROUGH HIM!
THEN:
THE FATHER, FOR THE FIRST EVER TIME WAS IN THE SON, THE WORD AND GOD CREATED OUR WORLD THROUGH HIM!
THEN:
HE CREATED HIS OWN PERFECT MOTHER, THE FIRST FRUIT OF CREATION,AND BY DOING SO HE PERFECTED ALL CREATION BOTH MATTER, AND SPIRIT WISE, IN HER,AND HE HIMSELF BECAME MOTHER EARTH IN MARY'S SOUL!
THEN:
HE WAS BORN THROUGH HER AND BECAME:
THE WORD MADE FLESH BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS' SOUL
THEN:
HE LIVED ON EARTH AND MANIFESTED GOD IN FLESH
THEN:
HE DIED HIS DEATH, AND GLORIFIED BOTH THE FATHER AND HIMSELF ALL ON THE CROSS!
SO THE FATHER, OBVIOUS THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS' SOUL ACHIEVED ALL THE ENTIRE PERFECTION OF CREATION IN JESUS' UNIQUE FLESH AND BLOOD BODY THE EX SON'S SPIRIT THE WORD
THEN IN THAT INSTANT HE WENT TO HELL IN FLESH AND BLOOD BODY TO JUSTIFY HIMSELF FOR THE FIRST EVER TIME IN THE MIDST OF FIRE THAT HE IS:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD,AND JESUS CHRIST
SYMBOLIZED IN:
MOSES' BUSH IN FIRE AND NOT BEING CONSUMED!
THIS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE,
THEREFORE THE GOD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS NOT JUSTIFIED AS SUCH!
TO DAY THIS UNIQUE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT IS IN COMMAND IN ALL THE ENTIRE UNIVERSES AND HE IS ON THE RIGHT HAND OF THE MOST HIGH!
JUSTIFYING HIMSELF TO THE ENTIRE UNIVERSES THAT HE IS:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST
HE WILL REMAIN SO TILL THE LEAST EVIL SPIRIT RETURN TO THE FATHER!
THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT'S WORK ON EARTH GLORIFIED WITH THE ATTRIBUTES OF JESUS CHRIST, THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT!
JESUS CHRIST'S !
THE ONLY AND MOST POWERFUL NAME ON EARTH!
THEN THE FATHER WOULD BE ALL IN ALL
THROUGH THE WORD, IN THE WORD, AND FOR THE WORD FOR ETERNITY
THE WORD IS GOD IN A DIFFERENT FUNCTION
THE SAME FATHER!
THE SAME SON!
AND THE SAME HOLY SPIRIT!
THEREFORE THE SAME GOD!
ONE GOD!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel,
Quote Kerwin, YOU ARE WRONG!
GOD IS NOT FIGURATIVELY LOVE!
GOD IS LOVE ITSELF
You are an example of one that chooses to interpret the statement God is God's love literally. Some also chose to interpret The word was God and/or the Word was made flesh literally as well. I do not choose to do so.
I chose to believe the God is figuratively his love as he personalizes it for the sum of the law is love as those by his Spirit bear the fruits of love. He lives by his spirit and commands his people to do the same.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2014,09:54) Hi wakeup,
Did John see the Spirit of Truth?
1 Jn1
hi NickJN 14:17 that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.
JN 15:26 “When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me,
JN 16:13 “But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
1JN 4:6 We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of errorthe spirit of truth = the holy spirit
Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Hi T,
“My Father AND I will come to you..'Two in one Spirit to be joined to all in Christ eternally.
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