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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2012,07:59) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 23 2012,17:41) Why does the plan of Yahweh have the esteem of the son of Yahweh? Simply because that is what Father Yahweh's inspired prophetic word conveys.
Where, Frank?Where does Father Yahweh's inspired prophetic word convey that “the plan of Yahweh” has the glory of “the Son of Yahweh”?
What scripture is that?
Yahchanan [John] 1:1
WHO IS THE WORD?
John Chapter OneELOHIM: ONE, OR MORE THAN ONE?
Exodus 32
By Voy Wilks
3/9/98The Pre-existence
Philippians 2:5-11
By Voy Wilks
1/29/92Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?
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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2012,08:15) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 23 2012,17:58) And I most certainly have never proclaimed that Father Yahweh can be with Himself! That is your perversion, not mine!
Well, it's good to know that you don't believe God can be WITH God, Frank. But how can that be MY perversion, when I constantly argue against such a ludicrous belief?
Maybe we should do some research to see if “theos” in 1:1c can be translated as an adjective, such as “sublime”. This is what Kittel's Theological Dictionary of the New Testament says:
The noun form is here used, not the adjectival theios, which would be required to simply classify the Word as “god-like.”
Do you have any scholarly support that “theos” CAN be adjectival in 1:1c?
Mike,I am not a mere “God” worshiper like you!
It is your perversion that you suggest that I would believe such foolishness as Yahweh can be with Yahweh!
Have you got a mouse in your pocket? It is completely up to you to do some research on the word 'theos', since it is you that insist on looking at Yahchanan [John] 1:1 from a Greek philosophical standpoint, not I. I do not support such foolishness!
WHO IS THE WORD?
John Chapter OneELOHIM: ONE, OR MORE THAN ONE?
Exodus 32
By Voy Wilks
3/9/98The Pre-existence
Philippians 2:5-11
By Voy Wilks
1/29/92Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?
…
Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 24 2012,14:57) Quote (jammin @ Aug. 23 2012,11:47) mike, when we say God, the bible is saying that God is nature,. (phil 2.6
God is form phil 2.6when we say HUMAN, human is nature. human is your form.
you and your father are both HUMAN. you are truly HUMAN (unless you dont want this truth LOL..are you an animal boy>??)
Christ and his father are both God. truly God! john 1.1
john 1.18
phil 2.6the bible said that. i believe in the bible
Jammin,The Bible did not say that the true God is a nature. You are the one saying it.
really??let me post the bible
Philippians 2:6New International Version (NIV)
6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
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study hard boyQuote (limjunus @ Aug. 24 2012,14:57) Quote (jammin @ Aug. 23 2012,11:47) mike, when we say God, the bible is saying that God is nature,. (phil 2.6
God is form phil 2.6when we say HUMAN, human is nature. human is your form.
you and your father are both HUMAN. you are truly HUMAN (unless you dont want this truth LOL..are you an animal boy>??)
Christ and his father are both God. truly God! john 1.1
john 1.18
phil 2.6the bible said that. i believe in the bible
Jammin,The Bible did not say that Jesus and the true God were in one nature (God)
really?? are you saying the truth boy??let me post again the bible
Philippians 2:6GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God
john 1.1 BNT
When the world began, the Word was already there. The Word was with God, and the nature of the Word was the same as the nature of God.———–
go back to school boy LOLlimjunus,
you are still not answering my question
ill repeat
do you believe that your father is truly HUMAN??yes or no?do you believe that you, just like your father, is also TRULY HUMAN?? yes or no?
Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 24 2012,15:29) Define the meaning of the word “spokesman”. Bible saying: “Deuteronomy 18:18 NKJV
18. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.Hebrews 1:1-2 NKJV
1. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
God sent his ONLY SONi have no problem with that verse (deut)
Christ became flesh.
i know your doctrine says that you do not believe that Christ is in heaven or pre existed before he was born of a woman.you have a big problem here boy LOL
i think you should study well your doctrine created by felix manalo LOL
btw,
stop using NLT bec it will never support false doctrine LOLNLT said Christ is God. study hard boy LOL
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2012,08:24) Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 23 2012,22:29) Define the meaning of the word “spokesman”. Bible saying: “Deuteronomy 18:18 NKJV
18. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.Hebrews 1:1-2 NKJV
1. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
Good post.
jammin, can you define the word “spokesman”? I believe it is one who speaks on behalf of SOMEONE ELSE. Surely God cannot be His own “spokesman”, right?
But then again, God also can't be His own:
Creation
Son
Anointed One
Sacrificial Lamb
Prophet
Angel
Mediator
Priest
ServantYet these are all things Jesus is of God.
Christ is not created. you are using col 1.15 with wrong interpretation.
of course there is a son. i have no problem with that boyif you are a son of your father, does it mean that you are NOT HUMAN?
LOL
you are both HUMAN of course unless you are an animal mike LOL
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God sent his son. his ONLY SON.he did the will of his father.
Quote (jammin @ Aug. 25 2012,12:25) limjunus,
you are still not answering my question
ill repeat
do you believe that your father is truly HUMAN??yes or no?do you believe that you, just like your father, is also TRULY HUMAN?? yes or no?
Jammin,Now, you are not only a certified “liar” but also in a very low I.Q.
You can not understand and you could not comprehend the true meaning of the words in Philippians 2:6
6. He always had the nature of God, but he did not think that by force he should try to become equal with God.
Jammin concluded, Jesus Christ is truly God, by holding his understanding that the word God and the word nature are one (the same meaning and he is using it as interchangeable).
You are comparing the word God or the word nature with the human nature known as only 1 specie (nature) the same of the water with 3 state; liquid solid and vapor.
Human nature: in different classification and category; Human Infant, Human Son, Human Daughter, Human Mother, Human Father and so on.
Jammin theory: God/Nature: as only 1 specie (nature/God) in different classification and category; Infant God, Son God, Daughter God, Mother God, Father God and so on.
Jammin, really do not know how to comprehend and the differents with the words Supreme Being, Almighty God, Celestial Being and Human Being.
Please, do not show your complete ignoramus here in Heaven Net, except you can show to us a proof from the Bible that the word “Nature” means God or the word “God” means Nature.
Jammin,
This messages with explanation isn't necessary to someone to have the highest I.Q. because it is very understandable and I am using your guideline you have made by your own.
Philippians 2:7-8 TEV
7.) Instead of this, of his own free will he gave up all he had, and took the nature of a servant. He became like man and appeared in human likeness.
8.) He was humble and walked the path of obedience all the way to death– his death on the cross.The passages is clearly telling us that Jesus Christ, is given-up all he had (the nature of God), he took the nature of a servant (human nature). He became like man and appeared in human likeness.(no more nature of God) 8. He was humble and walked the path of obedience all the way to death– his death on the cross(proven that he is immortal and not God) 1 Tim 1:17 John 4:24 KJV
Jammin, truly your father is in human nature and of course you are 100% is in human nature the same with other people like me. Presuming that you can took the nature of God, you became like God and appeared in God likeness. Are you still in human nature?
Just answer YES or NO?
The question is only base with your standard of understanding.
And here is the standard of the truth: “The One and only true God is no changes. He is God from no beginning to no end. Rebutting your own standard of understanding that the God or Nature can be changed.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2012,08:24) Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 23 2012,22:29) Define the meaning of the word “spokesman”. Bible saying: “Deuteronomy 18:18 NKJV
18. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.Hebrews 1:1-2 NKJV
1. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
Good post. jammin, can you define the word “spokesman”? I believe it is one who speaks on behalf of SOMEONE ELSE. Surely God cannot be His own “spokesman”, right?
But then again, God also can't be His own:
Creation
Son
Anointed One
Sacrificial Lamb
Prophet
Angel
Mediator
Priest
ServantYet these are all things Jesus is of God.
Mike,Surely, Jammin will interpret it differently. The same what he did with the word God and with the word Nature= with same meaning.
He really do not have the proper I.Q. to understand and having incapacity to define the real meaning of the word “Spokesman”.He has no talent to understand rightfully the Deut. 18:18 and Hebrews 1:1-2
“poor kiddie boy”
Quote (jammin @ Aug. 25 2012,12:32) Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 24 2012,15:29) Define the meaning of the word “spokesman”. Bible saying: “Deuteronomy 18:18 NKJV
18. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.Hebrews 1:1-2 NKJV
1. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
God sent his ONLY SONi have no problem with that verse (deut)
Christ became flesh.
i know your doctrine says that you do not believe that Christ is in heaven or pre existed before he was born of a woman.you have a big problem here boy LOL
i think you should study well your doctrine created by felix manalo LOL
btw,
stop using NLT bec it will never support false doctrine LOLNLT said Christ is God. study hard boy LOL
Jammin said. “NLT said Christ is God. study hard boy LOL” Christ became flesh.”The NLT is also telling this:
Deuteronomy 18:18
“I will raise up a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites. I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell the people everything I command him.”
Hebrews 1:1-2
New Living Translation (NLT)1.) Long ago God spoke many times and in many ways to our ancestors through the prophets.
2.) And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe.Jammin doctrines is: Truly God spoke in behalf of truly God and more worst is, his God/Nature became or transformed into human nature. Meaning Jammin is no more truly God. God became human.
Jammin Jesus Christ, is given up all he had, his God/Nature and became human nature.
What a very weird doctrines of Jammin.
Quote (jammin @ Aug. 25 2012,12:32) Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 24 2012,15:29) Define the meaning of the word “spokesman”. Bible saying: “Deuteronomy 18:18 NKJV
18. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.Hebrews 1:1-2 NKJV
1. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;i think you should study well your doctrine created by felix manalo LOL
Jammin,Where is your proof that my post was made by felix y. manalo?
All of the verses were taken from the Bible and not from felix y. manalo. Better for you to read it again and tell me which one is from felix y. manalo?Define the meaning of the word “spokesman”.
Bible saying: “Deuteronomy 18:18 NKJV
18. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.Hebrews 1:1-2 NKJV
1. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;Because of your low I.Q. and your handicap about the truth I am talking about, you are trying hardly to divert the topic to felix y. manalo.
You have no more truly God. As per your made doctrine, your truly God (Jesus Christ) already became human nature.
Poor “kiddie boy”
Quote (jammin @ Aug. 25 2012,12:18) Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 24 2012,14:57) Quote (jammin @ Aug. 23 2012,11:47) mike, when we say God, the bible is saying that God is nature,. (phil 2.6
God is form phil 2.6when we say HUMAN, human is nature. human is your form.
you and your father are both HUMAN. you are truly HUMAN (unless you dont want this truth LOL..are you an animal boy>??)
Christ and his father are both God. truly God! john 1.1
john 1.18
phil 2.6the bible said that. i believe in the bible
Jammin,The Bible did not say that the true God is a nature. You are the one saying it.
really??let me post the bible
Philippians 2:6New International Version (NIV)
6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
——-
study hard boy
“Poor kiddie boy Jammin.”The question is very clear: “The Bible did not say that the true God is a nature. You are the one saying it.”
The answered of Jammin is this: “6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,”
Jammin insisting that the meaning of the verse 2:6 NLT of Philippians is, “God is a Nature or the Nature is God”
Therefore. If Jammin said the word Nature, the meaning is God and if Jammin said the word God, the meaning is Nature.
I am gonna use Jammin, newly made school curriculum K69?
Philippians 2:6 “Who, being in very nature Nature”
I could not get any sense of your newly school curriculum Jammin.
Truly very weird…
Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 25 2012,14:25) Quote (jammin @ Aug. 25 2012,12:25) limjunus,
you are still not answering my question
ill repeat
do you believe that your father is truly HUMAN??yes or no?do you believe that you, just like your father, is also TRULY HUMAN?? yes or no?
Jammin,Now, you are not only a certified “liar” but also in a very low I.Q.
You can not understand and you could not comprehend the true meaning of the words in Philippians 2:6
6. He always had the nature of God, but he did not think that by force he should try to become equal with God.
Jammin concluded, Jesus Christ is truly God, by holding his understanding that the word God and the word nature are one (the same meaning and he is using it as interchangeable).
You are comparing the word God or the word nature with the human nature known as only 1 specie (nature) the same of the water with 3 state; liquid solid and vapor.
Human nature: in different classification and category; Human Infant, Human Son, Human Daughter, Human Mother, Human Father and so on.
Jammin theory: God/Nature: as only 1 specie (nature/God) in different classification and category; Infant God, Son God, Daughter God, Mother God, Father God and so on.
Jammin, really do not know how to comprehend and the differents with the words Supreme Being, Almighty God, Celestial Being and Human Being.
Please, do not show your complete ignoramus here in Heaven Net, except you can show to us a proof from the Bible that the word “Nature” means God or the word “God” means Nature.
i do not need your explanation.can you answer my question or not??
ill repeat
do you believe that your father is truly HUMAN??yes or no?do you believe that you, just like your father, is also TRULY HUMAN?? yes or no?
Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 25 2012,15:26) Quote (jammin @ Aug. 25 2012,12:32) Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 24 2012,15:29) Define the meaning of the word “spokesman”. Bible saying: “Deuteronomy 18:18 NKJV
18. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.Hebrews 1:1-2 NKJV
1. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
God sent his ONLY SONi have no problem with that verse (deut)
Christ became flesh.
i know your doctrine says that you do not believe that Christ is in heaven or pre existed before he was born of a woman.you have a big problem here boy LOL
i think you should study well your doctrine created by felix manalo LOL
btw,
stop using NLT bec it will never support false doctrine LOLNLT said Christ is God. study hard boy LOL
Jammin said. “NLT said Christ is God. study hard boy LOL” Christ became flesh.”The NLT is also telling this:
Deuteronomy 18:18
“I will raise up a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites. I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell the people everything I command him.”
Hebrews 1:1-2
New Living Translation (NLT)1.) Long ago God spoke many times and in many ways to our ancestors through the prophets.
2.) And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe.Jammin doctrines is: Truly God spoke in behalf of truly God and more worst is, his God/Nature became or transformed into human nature. Meaning Jammin is no more truly God. God became human.
Jammin Jesus Christ, is given up all he had, his God/Nature and became human nature.
What a very weird doctrines of Jammin.
i suggest that before you use that NLT, you must know how to use it LOLyou talk too much but your words are non sense. LOL
next time make sure that before you use a version, it will never contradict your belief LOL
Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 25 2012,15:42) Quote (jammin @ Aug. 25 2012,12:32) Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 24 2012,15:29) Define the meaning of the word “spokesman”. Bible saying: “Deuteronomy 18:18 NKJV
18. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.Hebrews 1:1-2 NKJV
1. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;i think you should study well your doctrine created by felix manalo LOL
Jammin,Where is your proof that my post was made by felix y. manalo?
All of the verses were taken from the Bible and not from felix y. manalo. Better for you to read it again and tell me which one is from felix y. manalo?Define the meaning of the word “spokesman”.
Bible saying: “Deuteronomy 18:18 NKJV
18. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.Hebrews 1:1-2 NKJV
1. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;Because of your low I.Q. and your handicap about the truth I am talking about, you are trying hardly to divert the topic to felix y. manalo.
You have no more truly God. As per your made doctrine, your truly God (Jesus Christ) already became human nature.
Poor “kiddie boy”
i have no problem with those verses..
what is your problem there boy???i have a question.
did duet 18.18 say that Christ is not God??yes or no?did heb 1.1 say Christ is not God? yes or no?
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btw
you said :You have no more truly God. As per your made doctrine, your truly God (Jesus Christ) already became human nature.the bible said that Christ BECAME FLESH
BUT BEFORE THAT, HE WAS IN THE FORM OF GOD.read well your bible and not your false doctrine made by pasugo
LOLQuote (limjunus @ Aug. 25 2012,16:01) Quote (jammin @ Aug. 25 2012,12:18) Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 24 2012,14:57) Quote (jammin @ Aug. 23 2012,11:47) mike, when we say God, the bible is saying that God is nature,. (phil 2.6
God is form phil 2.6when we say HUMAN, human is nature. human is your form.
you and your father are both HUMAN. you are truly HUMAN (unless you dont want this truth LOL..are you an animal boy>??)
Christ and his father are both God. truly God! john 1.1
john 1.18
phil 2.6the bible said that. i believe in the bible
Jammin,The Bible did not say that the true God is a nature. You are the one saying it.
really??let me post the bible
Philippians 2:6New International Version (NIV)
6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
——-
study hard boy
“Poor kiddie boy Jammin.”The question is very clear: “The Bible did not say that the true God is a nature. You are the one saying it.”
The answered of Jammin is this: “6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,”
Jammin insisting that the meaning of the verse 2:6 NLT of Philippians is, “God is a Nature or the Nature is God”
Therefore. If Jammin said the word Nature, the meaning is God and if Jammin said the word God, the meaning is Nature.
I am gonna use Jammin, newly made school curriculum K69?
Philippians 2:6 “Who, being in very nature Nature”
I could not get any sense of your newly school curriculum Jammin.
Truly very weird…
LOLi do not know what kind of brain do you have. LOL
the bible said NATURE GOD
if i say HUMAN nature, are you saying that this is not the right term???
are you also going to make “nature nature” just like what you did for the word nature God.LOL
your words are non sense.
is that the kind of teaching by felix??? LOL LOL LOL LOLthis is not for clown people.
go to carnival and you will make moneyQuote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 24 2012,18:01) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2012,08:15) The noun form is here used, not the adjectival theios, which would be required to simply classify the Word as “god-like.”
Mike,It is completely up to you to do some research on the word 'theos'………………
My initial research is in green letters above, Frank. Do YOU have any research to REFUTE the information above?Quote (jammin @ Aug. 24 2012,19:36) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2012,08:24) Quote (limjunus @ Aug. 23 2012,22:29) Define the meaning of the word “spokesman”. Bible saying: “Deuteronomy 18:18 NKJV
18. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.Hebrews 1:1-2 NKJV
1. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
Good post. jammin, can you define the word “spokesman”? I believe it is one who speaks on behalf of SOMEONE ELSE. Surely God cannot be His own “spokesman”, right?
But then again, God also can't be His own:
Creation
Son
Anointed One
Sacrificial Lamb
Prophet
Angel
Mediator
Priest
ServantYet these are all things Jesus is of God.
Christ is not created. you are using col 1.15 with wrong interpretation.
Hmmmmm………………So out of all those points listed above, you focus only on the “creation” one, so you can argue the meaning of Col 1:15 and Rev 3:14?
Instead of playing that game again, how about you address the OTHER things Jesus is of God – starting with limjunis' point that Jesus is a spokesman of God?
jammin, is “God” the “spokesman of God”? YES or NO?
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