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Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,08:07) Quote (kerwin @ July 14 2012,12:42) Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,05:08) 942767,July wrote:Hi Marty,
“The Word” was God (John 1:1)
“The Word” was made flesh (John 1:14)God bless
Ed J
Ed,You are making assumptions about how the Word is God and how the Word is made flesh.
Reveal how you arrived at your conclusions and how they relate to the idea that God lives in the flesh through his Spirit.
Hi Kerwin,God lives in the flesh through his Spirit. (this is exactly what I meant; thanks!)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,You are welcome though I believe my wording was awkward. You still seemed to have figured out my intent. That was a fine job.
Quote (terraricca @ July 15 2012,08:37) colter BUT LET THIS BE CLEAR ;ANY ONE THAT MAKES A BOOK ABOUT THE SCRIPTURES WITH HIS OWN IDEAS AND WAYS HIS A RELIGION ,
AND THERE FOR AS TAKEN AWAY CHRIST AND HIS DISCIPLES GLORY ,BUT ABOVE ALL THEY HAVE SLANDERED THE GLORY OF GOD HIMSELF ,
Hi Pierre,Are you against people writing books about Scripture?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (942767 @ July 15 2012,11:27) Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,10:08) Hi Marty, “The Word” was God (John 1:1)
“The Word” was made flesh (John 1:14)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed:The Word = Logos = what God has spoken and embodies an idea. That idea was to make man in his own image. The first Adam was made a living soul. The last Adam was made a living spirit.
God made all things by him, the last Adam, knowing that in him his plan for humanity would be fulfilled.
And so, in John 1 the “Logos” pertains to Jesus but is not Jesus as a sentient person.
In John 1:14 the Logos was made flesh. What God had spoken in the OT beginning with Genesis relative to Jesus was made a reality when Jesus was born into this world of the virgin Mary.
John 1:1c and the Logos was God is explained in saying that God is love, and he demonstrated this love for humanity by giving us His only begotten Son to be the propitiation for our sins and through whom He would reconcile us unto Himself.
Quote 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Quote 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him]. Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty,What is this post (of yours) suppose to convey?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (kerwin @ July 15 2012,18:26) Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,08:07) Quote (kerwin @ July 14 2012,12:42) Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,05:08) 942767,July wrote:Hi Marty,
“The Word” was God (John 1:1)
“The Word” was made flesh (John 1:14)God bless
Ed J
Ed,You are making assumptions about how the Word is God and how the Word is made flesh.
Reveal how you arrived at your conclusions and how they relate to the idea that God lives in the flesh through his Spirit.
Hi Kerwin,God lives in the flesh through his Spirit. (this is exactly what I meant; thanks!)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,You are welcome though I believe my wording was awkward. You still seemed to have figured out my intent. That was a fine job.
Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2012,02:09) Quote (terraricca @ July 15 2012,08:37) colter BUT LET THIS BE CLEAR ;ANY ONE THAT MAKES A BOOK ABOUT THE SCRIPTURES WITH HIS OWN IDEAS AND WAYS HIS A RELIGION ,
AND THERE FOR AS TAKEN AWAY CHRIST AND HIS DISCIPLES GLORY ,BUT ABOVE ALL THEY HAVE SLANDERED THE GLORY OF GOD HIMSELF ,
Hi Pierre,Are you against people writing books about Scripture?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjdo you want to challenge me on what I said
or just prove that what I said is wrong
Quote (terraricca @ July 15 2012,23:35) Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2012,02:09) Quote (terraricca @ July 15 2012,08:37) colter BUT LET THIS BE CLEAR ;ANY ONE THAT MAKES A BOOK ABOUT THE SCRIPTURES WITH HIS OWN IDEAS AND WAYS HIS A RELIGION ,
AND THERE FOR AS TAKEN AWAY CHRIST AND HIS DISCIPLES GLORY ,BUT ABOVE ALL THEY HAVE SLANDERED THE GLORY OF GOD HIMSELF ,
Hi Pierre,Are you against people writing books about Scripture?
God bless
Ed J
edjdo you want to challenge me on what I said
or just prove that what I said is wrong
PIERRE,You're suppose to prove what you say is right, not the other way around.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ July 15 2012,14:19) Pierre……….. 
jammin, you are rapidly ruining what little good reputation you ever had on this site. You run around calling everyone “boy” and asking the same questions we've already answered before.
But since your memory doesn't seem to be the greatest, he we are one more time:
YES, my father is human, and therefore I am A human – but not the SAME human as my father.
And YES, Christ's Father is God, and therefore, he is A god – but not the SAME god as his Father.
therefore your father is HUMAN but not human
you are human and not HUMAN, is that what you mean boy???bec Christ to you is god and not GOD
what is the difference between HUMAN and human mike boy???
T,
drink some medicine. it is good for your brain
jammin,
A long time ago, Adam was the only man on earth. He was THE MAN, for there were no others. Now when Adam, THE MAN, begot a son named Cain, was Cain a man like his father? Or was Cain THE MAN like his father?
Which one?
Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2012,19:16) Quote (942767 @ July 15 2012,11:27) Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,10:08) Hi Marty, “The Word” was God (John 1:1)
“The Word” was made flesh (John 1:14)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed:The Word = Logos = what God has spoken and embodies an idea. That idea was to make man in his own image. The first Adam was made a living soul. The last Adam was made a living spirit.
God made all things by him, the last Adam, knowing that in him his plan for humanity would be fulfilled.
And so, in John 1 the “Logos” pertains to Jesus but is not Jesus as a sentient person.
In John 1:14 the Logos was made flesh. What God had spoken in the OT beginning with Genesis relative to Jesus was made a reality when Jesus was born into this world of the virgin Mary.
John 1:1c and the Logos was God is explained in saying that God is love, and he demonstrated this love for humanity by giving us His only begotten Son to be the propitiation for our sins and through whom He would reconcile us unto Himself.
Quote 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Quote 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him]. Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty,What is this post (of yours) suppose to convey?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed:What part of my post do you not understand?
Bascically, the intent is to show that “the Word” in John 1 is Logos and is defined as “what God has spoken and it embodies and idea or a plan”, and is not some being who was with God in one form and became another form of being in John 1:14.
And to show, that when the Logos of God states that the “Logos of God” was God in John 1:1c, His Logos defines His Character. “God is love”.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (Ed J @ July 16 2012,06:38) Quote (terraricca @ July 15 2012,23:35) Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2012,02:09) Quote (terraricca @ July 15 2012,08:37) colter BUT LET THIS BE CLEAR ;ANY ONE THAT MAKES A BOOK ABOUT THE SCRIPTURES WITH HIS OWN IDEAS AND WAYS HIS A RELIGION ,
AND THERE FOR AS TAKEN AWAY CHRIST AND HIS DISCIPLES GLORY ,BUT ABOVE ALL THEY HAVE SLANDERED THE GLORY OF GOD HIMSELF ,
Hi Pierre,Are you against people writing books about Scripture?
God bless
Ed J
edjdo you want to challenge me on what I said
or just prove that what I said is wrong
PIERRE,You're suppose to prove what you say is right, not the other way around.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyou know a liar also believes that he says the truth according to himself,
so if you think I said something wrong you should not be stopped to make it clear to me that the bible does not support my sayings ,
Quote (jammin @ July 16 2012,07:47) Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 15 2012,14:19) Pierre……….. jammin, you are rapidly ruining what little good reputation you ever had on this site. You run around calling everyone “boy” and asking the same questions we've already answered before.
But since your memory doesn't seem to be the greatest, he we are one more time:
YES, my father is human, and therefore I am A human – but not the SAME human as my father.
And YES, Christ's Father is God, and therefore, he is A god – but not the SAME god as his Father.
therefore your father is HUMAN but not human
you are human and not HUMAN, is that what you mean boy???bec Christ to you is god and not GOD
what is the difference between HUMAN and human mike boy???
T,
drink some medicine. it is good for your brain
Quote (942767 @ July 16 2012,06:24) Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2012,19:16) Quote (942767 @ July 15 2012,11:27) Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,10:08) Hi Marty, “The Word” was God (John 1:1)
“The Word” was made flesh (John 1:14)God bless
Ed J
Hi Ed:The Word = Logos = what God has spoken and embodies an idea. That idea was to make man in his own image. The first Adam was made a living soul. The last Adam was made a living spirit.
God made all things by him, the last Adam, knowing that in him his plan for humanity would be fulfilled.
And so, in John 1 the “Logos” pertains to Jesus but is not Jesus as a sentient person.
In John 1:14 the Logos was made flesh. What God had spoken in the OT beginning with Genesis relative to Jesus was made a reality when Jesus was born into this world of the virgin Mary.
John 1:1c and the Logos was God is explained in saying that God is love, and he demonstrated this love for humanity by giving us His only begotten Son to be the propitiation for our sins and through whom He would reconcile us unto Himself.
Quote 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Quote 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him]. Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty,What is this post (of yours) suppose to convey?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed:What part of my post do you not understand?
Bascically, the intent is to show that “the Word” in John 1 is Logos and is defined as “what God has spoken and it embodies and idea or a plan”, and is not some being who was with God in one form and became another form of being in John 1:14.
And to show, that when the Logos of God states that the “Logos of God” was God in John 1:1c, His Logos defines His Character. “God is love”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty,Oh OK, thanks for the clarification.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ July 16 2012,06:35) edj you know a liar also believes that he says the truth according to himself,
PIERRE,Then they are not 'a liar' (one who knowingly lies), but instead
is one who spreads 'false truths' (not knowing they are spreading lies).God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,13:58) Hi Frank, When do you believe Yashua was begotten of by God?
1. At conception/birth
2. At baptism
3. At resurrection?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
[VIDEOS] PT 1 MYTH DESTROYERS , THE VIRGIN BIRTH MYTH…
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 16 2012,10:50) Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,13:58) Hi Frank, When do you believe Yashua was begotten of by God?
1. At conception/birth
2. At baptism
3. At resurrection?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
[VIDEOS] PT 1 MYTH DESTROYERS , THE VIRGIN BIRTH MYTH…
Hi Frank:If the virgin birth of Jesus is a myth, then all of us are still in our sins, because the scripture states:
Quote Rom 5:12 ¶ Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Do you believe the following scriptures?
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 16 2012,10:50) Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2012,13:58) Hi Frank, When do you believe Yashua was begotten of by God?
1. At conception/birth
2. At baptism
3. At resurrection?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
[VIDEOS] PT 1 MYTH DESTROYERS , THE VIRGIN BIRTH MYTH…
Do you mean #1?Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2012,15:07) Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2012,06:35) edj you know a liar also believes that he says the truth according to himself,
PIERRE,Then they are not 'a liar' (one who knowingly lies), but instead
is one who spreads 'false truths' (not knowing they are spreading lies).God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjso what you saying ;is that a person that believe what he says to be true but all know it is a lie ,so we should see it as truth
or he should not be called a liar
but what about if you tell him and he does not believe you what then ,would be now called a liar EZE 2:7 “But you shall speak My words to them whether they listen or not,
EZE 3:18 “When I say to the wicked, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn him or speak out to warn the wicked from his wicked way that he may live, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand.
EZE 3:19 “Yet if you have warned the wicked and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered yourself.Hi Frank:
The meaning of the word “espoused” in Matthew 1:18 is:
Quote Number 3423 Transliteration:
mnesteuo {mnace-tyoo'-o}
Word Origin:
from a derivative of 3415
Part of Speech:
verb
Usage in the KJV:
espouse 3
Total: 3
Definition:
1.to woo her and ask her in marriage
2.to be promised in marriage, be betrothedTDNT – Theological Dictionary of the New Testament
TWOT – Theological Word Book of the Old TestamentLove in Christ,
MartyQuote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2012,03:17) jammin, A long time ago, Adam was the only man on earth. He was THE MAN, for there were no others. Now when Adam, THE MAN, begot a son named Cain, was Cain a man like his father? Or was Cain THE MAN like his father?
Which one?
you did not answer my question boyill repeat
what is the difference between HUMAN and human?
what is the difference between GOD and god?The difference is not in the caps versus lowercase, jammin. The difference is between THE man and A man. The difference is between THE god and A god.
For example, THE man Adam could not possibly beget THE man Adam. He would have had to beget A man, who was a DIFFERENT man than he was.
THE god Jehovah could not possibly beget THE god Jehovah. He would have had to beget A god, who was a DIFFERENT god than He was.
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