JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ June 28 2012,05:10) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,11:55) Quote (terraricca @ June 28 2012,04:27) Edj Just tell me something how can unspoken words become flesh Hi Pierre, You should really think this through before asking such questions. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org       answer the question Unspoken words?

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942767 Group: Regular Members Posts: 5878 Joined: Sep. 2006 Posted: June 27 2012,14:26 Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,10:58) Quote (942767 @ June 24 2012,21:25) Hi: John 1:14 and the “Logos” became flesh or was made flesh. The definition of Logos is: Definition: 1.of speech A.a word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or idea B.what someone has said Love in Christ, Marty And is that also the definition of “logos” in Revelation 19:13, Marty? If not, what/who does the word “logos” refer to in that verse? Hi Mike: Perhaps, but in Revelation 19 the scripture states “his name” is called “the Logos of God”. And here, we are seeing Jesus as one who has obeyed God without sin even unto death on the cross and who has been exalted to God's right hand as head of the church, and who is the judge of the living and the dead through the Word of God that has been spoken by God through him, and that he obeyed without sin unto death. The Logos is that which God has spoken before the advent of Jesus pertaining to him and after his advent the Logos which God has spoken to humanity through him. The Logos of God did not originate from Jesus. Love in Christ, Marty

this was the base of the discussion so answer my question

[Ed J]

Here is your answer: unspoken words are nothing and become nothing.

[kerwin]

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Quote (kerwin @ June 26 2012,17:54) T; You are correct in that is how you see the Word within someone. K you should stop showing what you believe in others written quotes, THE WORD OF GOD his Christ ,and Christ is not reborn and he is not a word or words from anyone else , so your statment of approval to me IS WRONG,

T,

Are you confessing that you do not believe the Word is in Jesus?

[mikeboll64]

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Hi Mike: Yes, my name is Marty, and his name is Jesus is that not correct?   He is called “the Everlasting Father”.  Is he “the Everlasting Father”, Mike? Love in Christ, Marty

Hi Marty,

And if you also were known by the name “Sledgehammer”, could I look at you and say, “There goes Sledgehammer” – even though you are not LITERALLY a sledgehammer?  YES or NO?

And since Jesus is known by many other names besides “Jesus”, could John the Baptist see Jesus and say, “Behold, there goes the Lamb of God” – even though Jesus was not LITERALLY a Lamb?  YES or NO?

Could the Apostle John see Jesus and say, “Behold, there goes the Word of God” – even though Jesus was not LITERALLY a spoken word of God?  YES or NO?

Marty, please answer these questions this time.

As far as Isaiah 9:6, I don't know what to think.  Look at how it is in the Septuagint:
Isaiah 9:6 LXX
For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.

It says nothing about “god” or “father” for some reason.  But, if we are to take it from the Hebrew, consider these:
Job 29:16
I was a father to the needy, and I investigated the case of the person I did not know;

Isaiah 22
20 “In that day I will summon my servant, Eliakim son of Hilkiah. 21 I will clothe him with your robe and fasten your sash around him and hand your authority over to him. He will be a father to those who live in Jerusalem and to the house of Judah.

2 Kings 2
11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. 12 Elisha saw this and cried out, “My father! My father! The chariots and horsemen of Israel!”

In certain cases, the word “father” isn't literal, but refers to a “protector”.  And Jesus will be our everlasting protector, right?

But let's not stray, Marty.  I REALLY want to know why Jesus, who has “the Word of God” as one of his many names, couldn't have been called by that name in by John in 1:1 and 1:14.  Do you have a SCRIPTURAL reason John could not have been referring to Jesus in these verses?  Or just PERSONAL ones?

I mean, if I saw Jesus coming on the clouds today, and I said to you, “Look Marty! Here comes the Word of God!”, wouldn't you know I was referring to Jesus?

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ June 26 2012,06:10) Quote (kerwin @ June 26 2012,17:54) T; You are correct in that is how you see the Word within someone. K you should stop showing what you believe in others written quotes, THE WORD OF GOD his Christ ,and Christ is not reborn and he is not a word or words from anyone else , so your statment of approval to me IS WRONG, T, Are you confessing that you do not believe the Word is in Jesus?

K

the WORD IN jOHN 1;1 HIS CHRIST

the words spoken by Christ was the truth of his father

are you agreeing with this

[kerwin]

T;

I agree with God who promises that a time will come; and has come when he will put his spirit in the heart and inward parts of his people. John 1.. testifies this was done with Jesus first. John the Baptist saw that the Word was in Jesus and desired it be in him as well.

[terraricca]

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T; I agree with God who promises that a time will come; and has come when he will put his spirit in the heart and inward parts of his people.  John 1.. testifies this was done with Jesus first.  John the Baptist saw that the Word was in Jesus and desired it be in him as well.

k

ARE YOU AGREEING WITH ME YES OR NO

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,16:20)

Here is your answer: unspoken words are nothing and become nothing.

edj

so THE WORD OF GOD ,HIS JESUS CHRIST ,THE SON OF GOD ,THAT CAME DOWN AND WAS SEND FROM THE FATHER

RIGHT YES OR NO

[Ed J]

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Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,16:20) Here is your answer: unspoken words are nothing and become nothing. edj so THE WORD OF GOD ,HIS JESUS CHRIST ,THE SON OF GOD ,THAT CAME DOWN AND WAS SEND FROM THE FATHER RIGHT YES OR NO

NO:  “The Word” is the “HolySpirit”.    (Link)
 
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

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T; I agree with God who promises that a time will come; and has come when he will put his spirit in the heart and inward parts of his people.  John 1.. testifies this was done with Jesus first.  John the Baptist saw that the Word was in Jesus and desired it be in him as well.

K

and NO you do not agree with GOD but with yourself

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,19:14)

Quote (terraricca @ June 28 2012,11:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,16:20) Here is your answer: unspoken words are nothing and become nothing. edj so THE WORD OF GOD ,HIS JESUS CHRIST ,THE SON OF GOD ,THAT CAME DOWN AND WAS SEND FROM THE FATHER RIGHT YES OR NO NO:  “The Word” is the “HolySpirit”.    (Link)   God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

NO ,it is not ,this I answered you in another topic why it is not

[kerwin]

T;

God is the one who prophesied that a time would come when he would put his Word in his people's inward parts and write in on there hearts, Jeremiah 31:33. I just agree with him. God also teaches us Jesus is the Pioneer and Perfecter of our faith, Hebrews 12:2. I agree with him on this as well.

[terraricca]

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T; God is the one who prophesied that a time would come when he would put his Word in his people's inward parts and write in on there hearts, Jeremiah 31:33.  I just agree with him. God also teaches us Jesus is the Pioneer and Perfecter of our faith, Hebrews 12:2. I agree with him on this as well.

K

the word of God was given to Moses but not all put it in their heart and so went after other gods ,

so now you telling me that scriptures says that Gods almighty has changed so that now it is HE that PUT his words in peoples hearts ?

is that it

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ June 28 2012,21:31)

T; God is the one who prophesied that a time would come when he would put his Word in his people's inward parts and write in on there hearts, Jeremiah 31:33.  I just agree with him. God also teaches us Jesus is the Pioneer and Perfecter of our faith, Hebrews 12:2. I agree with him on this as well.

K

you do not agree with HIM ,if so explain to me those verses you are quoting with your statement

[journey42]

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,12:14)

Quote (terraricca @ June 28 2012,11:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,16:20) Here is your answer: unspoken words are nothing and become nothing. edj so THE WORD OF GOD ,HIS JESUS CHRIST ,THE SON OF GOD ,THAT CAME DOWN AND WAS SEND FROM THE FATHER RIGHT YES OR NO NO:  “The Word” is the “HolySpirit”.    (Link)   God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed

Was the holy spirit a vesture dipped in blood?
Did the holy spirit die for three days? and then get resurrected?
Did God call the holy spirit his beloved son?
Will the holy spirit return with his saints and rule in righteousness?
and will the everyone witness the coming of the holy spirit when he makes the earth shake at his coming?
Are the armies going to point their guns up at the holy spirit and make war with him?

[Ed J]

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Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,12:14) Quote (terraricca @ June 28 2012,11:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,16:20) Here is your answer: unspoken words are nothing and become nothing. edj so THE WORD OF GOD ,HIS JESUS CHRIST ,THE SON OF GOD ,THAT CAME DOWN AND WAS SEND FROM THE FATHER RIGHT YES OR NO NO:  “The Word” is the “HolySpirit”.    (Link)   God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Ed (1) Was the holy spirit a vesture dipped in blood? (2) Did the holy spirit die for three days? and then get resurrected? (3) Did God call the holy spirit his beloved son? (4) Will the holy spirit return with his saints and rule in righteousness? (5) and will the everyone witness the coming of the holy spirit when he makes the earth shake at his coming? (6) Are the armies going to point their guns up at the holy spirit and make war with him?

Hi Georgie,

1) Compare with Isaiah 63:3
2) No
3) No
4) Happened at “Pentecost”
5) Hebrews 12:26
6) Do you mean Rev.19:19?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

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Quote (kerwin @ June 28 2012,21:31) T; God is the one who prophesied that a time would come when he would put his Word in his people's inward parts and write in on there hearts, Jeremiah 31:33.  I just agree with him. God also teaches us Jesus is the Pioneer and Perfecter of our faith, Hebrews 12:2. I agree with him on this as well. K the word of God was given to Moses but not all put it in their heart and so went after other gods , so now you telling me that scriptures says that Gods almighty has changed so that now it is HE that PUT his words in peoples hearts ? is that it

T;

Read God's words in Jeremiah 31, he does not change but his agreement with his people does. The first covenant is to the house of Israel and the command is live by the Law while the second is with all nations and the command is live by the Spirit. The Spirit was not given to mankind until Jehovah set Jesus on his holy hill.

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,12:14)

Quote (terraricca @ June 28 2012,11:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,16:20) Here is your answer: unspoken words are nothing and become nothing. edj so THE WORD OF GOD ,HIS JESUS CHRIST ,THE SON OF GOD ,THAT CAME DOWN AND WAS SEND FROM THE FATHER RIGHT YES OR NO NO:  “The Word” is the “HolySpirit”.    (Link)   God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

non sense.

this guy is blinded

[Ed J]

Hi Jammin,

If “The Word” maketh the son, then “the word” is the HolySpirit; right?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

i do not need opinions. you must read in john 1.1 that the word is the HS

you are blinded boy.
the bible says that the WORD is the son but you keep insisting your imagination.

take some vitamins boy for your brain.

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