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Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 18 2012,10:03) Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,21:11) you have the form of MAN, arent you MAN by nature? yes or no?
Yes I am.Angels have taken the form of man, were they man by nature? YES or NO?
jammin', “God Most High” has a Son named Jesus. Does JESUS have a Son named Jesus? YES or NO?
Also, we await your answer to Ed's question:
Who did John see sitting on the throne in Rev 4:2?And finally, it seems evident to us all that your understanding about Jesus being God Almighty is based largely on your belief that “nature” = “attributes”. But Carl Lewis was at one time the world's fastest man. Running fast was an “attribute” that Carl Lewis had. According to your reasoning, all who share a human nature with Carl Lewis are able to run as fast as he did. But that's not the case, is it?
Or we could use Albert Einstein as an example. Do all human beings who share a nature with Albert have the mental genius that he displayed?
thnks for the answer
therfore you also believe that Christ is God by nature.Quote (kerwin @ May 18 2012,04:54) Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,23:02) Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2012,22:31) Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,18:15) that is right. but im not GOD. i “might be”
Hi Jammin,I'm with ya! (Heb.11:40)
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
i might be partakers of his divine nature.
that is different with having the form of GOD>
Jammin;Just like image and shape are synonymous so to one who partakes of God's nature has God's nature as they share with others in it.
read the contxtQuote (mikeboll64 @ May 18 2012,10:03) Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,21:11) you have the form of MAN, arent you MAN by nature? yes or no?
Yes I am.Angels have taken the form of man, were they man by nature? YES or NO?
jammin', “God Most High” has a Son named Jesus. Does JESUS have a Son named Jesus? YES or NO?
Also, we await your answer to Ed's question:
Who did John see sitting on the throne in Rev 4:2?And finally, it seems evident to us all that your understanding about Jesus being God Almighty is based largely on your belief that “nature” = “attributes”. But Carl Lewis was at one time the world's fastest man. Running fast was an “attribute” that Carl Lewis had. According to your reasoning, all who share a human nature with Carl Lewis are able to run as fast as he did. But that's not the case, is it?
Or we could use Albert Einstein as an example. Do all human beings who share a nature with Albert have the mental genius that he displayed?
albert is not all knowing
carl is not all mightythat is the nature of man
Quote (Ed J @ May 18 2012,04:35) Quote (jammin @ May 18 2012,04:05) Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2012,22:34) Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,19:44) jehovah means GOD
the father is LORD GOD
the son is LORD GOD
Hu Jammin,JEHOVAH is GOD
The Father is LORD GOD
The Son is LordYour brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
let the bible speak1 cor 8.6
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
To us, ours is one God The Father, for all things are from him and we are in him, and The One LORD JEHOVAH Yeshua The Messiah, for all things are by him, and we are also in his hand.
Hi Jammin,Aramaic is Aramaic and English is English, two different languages;
there is no such thing as Aramaic in Plain English? Perhaps
that is why you also confuse Greek with Latin??As I had pointed out to you previously “X” comes from the Greek
Χριστоς meaning Christos, not from the the Latin which is Christus or Christi.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
mke your own dictionary boy lolHi Jammin,
Mark 13:32
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.Quote (jammin @ May 18 2012,09:01) Quote (kerwin @ May 18 2012,04:54) Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,23:02) Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2012,22:31) Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,18:15) that is right. but im not GOD. i “might be”
Hi Jammin,I'm with ya! (Heb.11:40)
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
i might be partakers of his divine nature.
that is different with having the form of GOD>
Jammin;Just like image and shape are synonymous so to one who partakes of God's nature has God's nature as they share with others in it.
read the contxt
Jammin;The context teaches me
1} Jehovah does not have a God while Jesus does.
2} Jehovah cannot be tempted by evil while Jesus was tempted as we are but without sin.
3} Jehovah knows all things while Jesus does not know the day or hour of his return: see Nick's post on the subject.And a forth point.
Luke 2:52
King James Version (KJV)52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.
Jehovah is all wise and does not increase in wisdom as Jesus did; nor does he increase in favor with himself.
These 5 facts reveal Jesus is not God.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 18 2012,14:04) Hi Jammin,
ALL KNOWING.
Is that a characteristic of gods?
all knowing is part of the attributes of GOD or nature of GOD.
if you are GOD not god, you are all knowing.
mark 13.32 speak of the human nature of Christ and not as God by nature.peter said Christ KNOWS ALL THINGS!
john 21.17
New International Version (©1984)
The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?” Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my sheep.Quote (kerwin @ May 18 2012,15:46) Quote (jammin @ May 18 2012,09:01) Quote (kerwin @ May 18 2012,04:54) Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,23:02) Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2012,22:31) Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,18:15) that is right. but im not GOD. i “might be”
Hi Jammin,I'm with ya! (Heb.11:40)
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
i might be partakers of his divine nature.
that is different with having the form of GOD>
Jammin;Just like image and shape are synonymous so to one who partakes of God's nature has God's nature as they share with others in it.
read the contxt
Jammin;The context teaches me
1} Jehovah does not have a God while Jesus does.
2} Jehovah cannot be tempted by evil while Jesus was tempted as we are but without sin.
3} Jehovah knows all things while Jesus does not know the day or hour of his return: see Nick's post on the subject.And a forth point.
Luke 2:52
King James Version (KJV)52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.
Jehovah is all wise and does not increase in wisdom as Jesus did; nor does he increase in favor with himself.
These 5 facts reveal Jesus is not God.
Christ became flesh. the human nature is not all knowing, but his nature GOD is all knowing.
peter said he is all knowing.the father also says to his son he is GOD! heb 1.8
ho theosyou know nick, make your own bible
Jammin;
Quote Christ became flesh. the human nature is not all knowing, but his nature GOD is all knowing.
peter said he is all knowing.Your interpretation breaks Scripture by blaming Jesus' human nature for all the characteristics he has that are not God's.
Peter's words do not prove Jesus is all knowing because all was used as an “in general” statement and/or an “in relation to” as well as an explicitly. One example is of the first use is “all Jerusalem was in an uproar” when the wise men inquired of Jesus' place of birth.
Acts 21:31
King James Version (KJV)31 And as they went about to kill him, tidings came unto the chief captain of the band, that all Jerusalem was in an uproar.
There were certainly those that were not in an uproar but in general all of Jerusalem was indeed in an uproar.
Peter and Jesus are in agreement that Jesus knows all things in general as regards salvation; even though he did not know the day nor hour of his return.
Remember Jesus stated he had the same God and Father as his students. To us there is one God and Father; and that is Jehovah.
Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2012,01:49) Quote Peter and Jesus are in agreement that Jesus knows all things in general as regards salvation;
then read your opinion in john 21.17
read that peter said Christ knows all things in general as regards salvationjammin,
In my last two posts to you, I explained many things, and asked you at least three questions – two of which I bolded to make them easy for you to see.
Were you going to address any of those points?
Quote (jammin @ May 19 2012,08:40) Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2012,01:49) Quote Peter and Jesus are in agreement that Jesus knows all things in general as regards salvation;
then read your opinion in john 21.17
read that peter said Christ knows all things in general as regards salvation
Jammin;I was pointing out that your definition of “all” is clearly not present in john 21.17 as it conflicts with Jesus' statement in Mark 13:32 that the Son does not know the day and the hour of his return.
Mark 13:32
King James Version (KJV)32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
An alternative definition that works is “all” used as an in general statement. Looking as the context of the use; it seems to me Peter was more likely speaking of Jesus' knowledge of his heart.
Precept upon precept and line upon line Scripture supports itself.
Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2012,12:58) Quote (jammin @ May 19 2012,08:40) Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2012,01:49) Quote Peter and Jesus are in agreement that Jesus knows all things in general as regards salvation;
then read your opinion in john 21.17
read that peter said Christ knows all things in general as regards salvation
Jammin;I was pointing out that your definition of “all” is clearly not present in john 21.17 as it conflicts with Jesus' statement in Mark 13:32 that the Son does not know the day and the hour of his return.
Mark 13:32
King James Version (KJV)32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
An alternative definition that works is “all” used as an in general statement. Looking as the context of the use; it seems to me Peter was more likely speaking of Jesus' knowledge of his heart.
Precept upon precept and line upon line Scripture supports itself.
Jammin;Jehovah has given Jesus the authority to know all things in Peter's heart. I hypothesize he has the same authority in regards to each and every heart.
Hi Kerwin,
We know God's only begotten son had their best interest in mind;
most others, if JEHOVAH had given them the same ability, would not.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ May 19 2012,13:12) Hi Kerwin, We know God's only begotten son had their best interest in mind;
most others, if JEHOVAH had given them the same ability, would not.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed. J,As you state, Jesus, though human, did not fall short of the glory of God. All other humans have. The authority is needed for his position of Lord of all things in heaven and on earth.
Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2012,17:58) Quote (jammin @ May 19 2012,08:40) Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2012,01:49) Quote Peter and Jesus are in agreement that Jesus knows all things in general as regards salvation;
then read your opinion in john 21.17
read that peter said Christ knows all things in general as regards salvation
Jammin;I was pointing out that your definition of “all” is clearly not present in john 21.17 as it conflicts with Jesus' statement in Mark 13:32 that the Son does not know the day and the hour of his return.
Mark 13:32
King James Version (KJV)32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
An alternative definition that works is “all” used as an in general statement. Looking as the context of the use; it seems to me Peter was more likely speaking of Jesus' knowledge of his heart.
Precept upon precept and line upon line Scripture supports itself.
so you cant read your imagination that christ knows all things in general as regards salvationmake your own bible
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