JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[mikeboll64]

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2012,11:07) Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,12:46) so for you, God the son must have a son also for him to be God? is that what you mean? your logic is weak mike…. LOL jammin, Work it out along with me here: 1.  “God” has an only begotten Son, right? 2.  But YOU say that “God” CONSISTS OF the Father AND the Son, right? 3.  That means when we say “God” has a Son, we are really saying “The Father AND the Son” have a Son. Is that what you believe, jammin? work with me too mike my father has a son and that is me. i do not have a son mike but does it mean that im not MAN by nature???

jammin,

WHICH God has a Son named Jesus?

[NickHassan]

Hi Jammin,
Jesus identified his Father as the God of the Jews.
Jn8
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

Was he incorrect?

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,10:26)

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,21:17) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2012,11:07) Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,12:46) so for you, God the son must have a son also for him to be God? is that what you mean? your logic is weak mike…. LOL jammin, Work it out along with me here: 1.  “God” has an only begotten Son, right? 2.  But YOU say that “God” CONSISTS OF the Father AND the Son, right? 3.  That means when we say “God” has a Son, we are really saying “The Father AND the Son” have a Son. Is that what you believe, jammin? work with me too mike my father has a son and that is me. i do not have a son mike but does it mean that im not MAN by nature??? jammin, WHICH God has a Son named Jesus?

the father

what is your point here? does that mean that Christ is not GOD by nature?

my father has a son and that is me, but does that mean that im not MAN by nature mike bec i dont have a son? LOL

[jammin]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2012,04:49)

Hi Jammin, Scripture calls men gods.[jn10] What is your point?

gods and not GOD by nature.

the reason is
john 10.35
35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside

[jammin]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2012,10:28)

Hi Jammin, Jesus identified his Father as the God of the Jews. Jn8 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: Was he incorrect?

there is nothing wrong in that verse.

the verse did not say that Christ is not GOD

phil 2.6
says Christ is GOD
john 20.28 Christ is GOD

[mikeboll64]

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,10:26) WHICH God has a Son named Jesus? the father

So is Jesus a DIFFERENT God then?

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,16:52)

Quote (kerwin @ May 14 2012,20:53) Jammin; Quote do you believe that the father called the son GOD? yes or no>? No as he called him Elohim; which has a number of different meanings.  We know from verse 7 that this Elohim has an Elohim;  and there is but one God. That tells us that the Groom is not Yahweh Elohim of Elohims as there is no one greater than he. Tell me which if these meanings you are using for God and we can see if it fits the context. i believe what the bible says Hebrews 1:8 8 But God said about his Son,    “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.

Jammin;

Manuscripts were originally not written in English.

I asked for a definition of God that would fit the context of Psalms 45.  As you wish an English translation; it is written:

Joshua 22:22
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

22 `The God of gods — Jehovah, the God of gods — Jehovah, He is knowing, and Israel, he doth know, if in rebellion, and if in trespass against Jehovah (Thou dost not save us this day!)

and

Psalm 50:1
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 A Psalm of Asaph. The God of gods — Jehovah — hath spoken, And He calleth to the earth From the rising of the sun unto its going in.

Jehovah is God of other gods.  What does god mean?

[jammin]

God means supreme being
god means a person who is very important or powerful in a particular field

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,12:30)

Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,19:02) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,10:26) WHICH God has a Son named Jesus? the father So is Jesus a DIFFERENT God then?

a different person not different nature (God)

their nature is GOD

just like you and your father, you are two persons but one in nature and that is MAN

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,00:15)

God means supreme being god means a person who is very important or powerful in a particular field

Hi Jammin

It is nice to see you define the words that YOU use;
that way we can have a cohesive discussion!

What does 'GOD by nature' mean?
You continually use this phrase,
but have yet to define it?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ May 15 2012,19:15)

God means supreme being god means a person who is very important or powerful in a particular field

Jammin;

Thank you!

Jesus is the Messiah; who Yawheh appointed as Mediator between mankind and Yawheh. That makes him both very important and powerful but not the Supreme Being; who is his God.

[NickHassan]

Hi Jammin,
Is GOD just a nature?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ May 15 2012,07:17)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,12:30) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,19:02) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,10:26) WHICH God has a Son named Jesus? the father So is Jesus a DIFFERENT God then? a different person not different nature (God)

jammin,

Refer back to my original question above.  I didn't ask which PERSON has a Son named Jesus, but which GOD.  You answered correctly that “the Father” is the GOD who has a Son named Jesus.

jammin, is JESUS also the God who has a Son named JESUS?

[jammin]

Quote (kerwin @ May 16 2012,06:07)

Quote (jammin @ May 15 2012,19:15) God means supreme being god means a person who is very important or powerful in a particular field Jammin; Thank you! Jesus is the Messiah; who Yawheh appointed as Mediator between mankind and Yawheh.  That makes him both very important and powerful but not the Supreme Being; who is his God.

yes jesus is the messiah, the bible also says that he is GOD and not god boy LOL

Philippians 2:6

New Living Translation (NLT)

6 Though he was God,[a]
he did not think of equality with God
as something to cling to.

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2012,03:34)

Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,00:15) God means supreme being god means a person who is very important or powerful in a particular field Hi Jammin It is nice to see you define the words that YOU use; that way we can have a cohesive discussion! What does 'GOD by nature' mean? You continually use this phrase, but have yet to define it? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

i already answered this qauestion.

take some vitamins. you have an amnesia boy LOL

[jammin]

nick,

let the bible speak
Philippians 2:6

New International Version (NIV)

6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 16 2012,11:49)

Quote (jammin @ May 15 2012,07:17) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,12:30) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,19:02) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,10:26) WHICH God has a Son named Jesus? the father So is Jesus a DIFFERENT God then? a different person not different nature (God) jammin, Refer back to my original question above.  I didn't ask which PERSON has a Son named Jesus, but which GOD.  You answered correctly that “the Father” is the GOD who has a Son named Jesus. jammin, is JESUS also the God who has a Son named JESUS?

so for you, jesus must have a son to be GOD by nature.
we are talking about nature mike. do you understand the word nature? LOL

my father has a son. he is MAN by nature. i do not have a SON mike, am i not MAN by nature?

LOL

your logic is non sense!

[NickHassan]

Hi jammin,
NATURE seems to be your only interest,
Do you KNOW God or His Son?

[NickHassan]

Hi jammin,
Indeed Jesus after the anointing can be said to have had the nature of God.
The time concepts of God are not as simplistic as ours.

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,14:24)

Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2012,03:34) Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,00:15) God means supreme being god means a person who is very important or powerful in a particular field Hi Jammin It is nice to see you define the words that YOU use; that way we can have a cohesive discussion! What does 'GOD by nature' mean? You continually use this phrase, but have yet to define it? God bless Ed J i already answered this qauestion. take some vitamins. you have an amnesia boy LOL

Hi Jammin, no you haven't?

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Here's the list of my terms… GOD:  the creator of the universe. NATURE:  the physical world collectively. I will be referring to my terms in our discussions.

Christ is the creator of the universe by the physical world collectively?

This does not even make sense?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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