JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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  • #296256
    Spock
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,14:32)
    Hi Colter,
    We are not experts.
    But we do know where truth is found.

    Not in the minds of foolish men


    The truth is found in having a personal relationship with God, not an intellectual relationship with theology. The spirit born mind is no longer foolish but teachable.

    “When theology masters religion, religion dies; it becomes a doctrine instead of a life.”

    I wonder how often the friends and families of the early followers of Jesus were called foolish by the maters of religion???

    Colter

    #296262
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2012,04:01)
    Hi T,
    Cast no stones at scriptural evidence


    N

    what stones do you talking about ??????

    #296268
    jammin
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    t,

    i think nick is using stones LOL

    #296274
    Ed J
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    Quote (Ed J @ May 03 2012,15:36)

    Quote (jammin @ May 03 2012,15:34)
    nick and edj,
    (#1)i believe what john said that the word is the son of GOD :)


    Hi Jammin,

    That's not something John ever said?

    God bless
    Ed J

    Quote (terraricca @ May 03 2012,16:24)

    Quote (jammin @ May 03 2012,21:00)

    (#3)terrarica,yes .edj is still lost LOL

    edj

    (#3)still lost


    Three big logic fallacies that I see presented here: (Link)

    1. Opinions: opinions are presented as evidence.
    2. Scenarios: scenarios are presented as proof.
    3. Consensus: consensus is seen as conformation.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #296280
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    From your cold prison cell you think we are lost?

    #296325
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 02 2012,20:10)
    Hi MB,
    He also did the works of God.

    So why do you forget these things and elevate only the vessel as a god?


    God has done many fine works through Jesus, His Son who was existing alongside Him before He sent him into the world.

    #296335
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Certainly he is a glorious vessel.
    A man made emmanuel by the anointing of the Word.

    #296338
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Nope. A being who was existing in the form of, and having glory beside God, before he was made into a human being.

    #296344
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Where is theis BEING called as such in scripture?

    #296351
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2012,06:09)
    Hi Jammin,
    From your cold prison cell you think we are lost?


    from you cold prison cell, you are lost LOL

    read the context of john 1.1 and you will know the true meaning of the verse. also, stop sniffing mosquito coil while reading LOL :D

    #296360
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,19:06)
    Hi MB,
    Where is theis BEING called as such in scripture?


    Where are human BEINGS ever called such in scripture? Should we then assume that no human BEINGS are mentioned in the whole of scripture? ???

    Where does scripture allow for something that WAS God to become something that isn't God anymore?

    #296363
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Please do show where the BEING you say was in heaven before becoming a man.
    What God can do is not defined by your imagination.

    The WORD is not said to have been a BEING there

    #296367
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Where does scripture allow for something that WAS God to become something that isn't God anymore?

    #296369
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Should men demand that God does things their way and according to their rules of logic?

    #296374
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    In the beginning the WORD was God..

    #296390
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2012,20:27)
    Hi MB,
    Should men demand that God does things their way and according to their rules of logic?


    N

    that is what you do;

    each time that you do not believe the words that Christ says plainly ,and make it your interpretation what you think you are doing ????

    example; Jn 14:1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.

    Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was in the nature of God. (foot notes INV)
    Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.

    Lk 1:2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the Word.(Christ)

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
    Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy

    Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
    before his deeds of old;
    Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
    from the beginning, before the world began.
    Pr 8:24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth,
    when there were no springs abounding with water;
    Pr 8:25 before the mountains were settled in place,
    before the hills, I was given birth,
    Pr 8:26 before he made the earth or its fields
    or any of the dust of the world.
    Pr 8:27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
    when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
    Pr 8:28 when he established the clouds above
    and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
    Pr 8:29 when he gave the sea its boundary
    so the waters would not overstep his command,
    and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
    Pr 8:30 Then I was the craftsman at his side.
    I was filled with delight day after day,
    rejoicing always in his presence,
    Pr 8:31 rejoicing in his whole world
    and delighting in mankind.

    TELL ME NICK BETWEEN ALL THOSE SCRIPTURES IS THERE ANY CONTRADICTION ??? IF YES SHOW ME ,IF NOT WHY DO YOU NOT BELIEVE THEM JUST THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN ???

    THERE IS MORE ;;;;

    #296397
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Pierre,

    None of those verses assert what you suggest,
    so you will at least need to show more that actually do.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #296400
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    None of these speak of Jesus of Nazareth but are about the Word.
    Of course after the Jordan Jesus was one with the Word

    #296405
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2012,08:27)
    Hi MB,
    Should men demand that God does things their way and according to their rules of logic?


    Nick,

    According to the verb use the Word was continuously with God in the beginning. Was being in a past with continuous or progressive actions.  That was the situation in the Age called the beginning.

    Where do you read that the same situation is not still ongoing?

    #296406
    kerwin
    Participant

    T;

    The Scriptures do not disagree with one another but your teaching disagrees with Scripture.

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