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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,14:32) Hi Colter,
We are not experts.
But we do know where truth is found.Not in the minds of foolish men
The truth is found in having a personal relationship with God, not an intellectual relationship with theology. The spirit born mind is no longer foolish but teachable.“When theology masters religion, religion dies; it becomes a doctrine instead of a life.”
I wonder how often the friends and families of the early followers of Jesus were called foolish by the maters of religion???
Colter
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2012,04:01) Hi T,
Cast no stones at scriptural evidence
Nwhat stones do you talking about
???Quote (Ed J @ May 03 2012,15:36) Quote (jammin @ May 03 2012,15:34) nick and edj,
(#1)i believe what john said that the word is the son of GOD
Hi Jammin,That's not something John ever said?
God bless
Ed JQuote (terraricca @ May 03 2012,16:24) Quote (jammin @ May 03 2012,21:00)
(#3)terrarica,yes .edj is still lost LOLedj
(#3)still lost
Three big logic fallacies that I see presented here: (Link)1. Opinions: opinions are presented as evidence.
2. Scenarios: scenarios are presented as proof.
3. Consensus: consensus is seen as conformation.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 02 2012,20:10) Hi MB,
He also did the works of God.So why do you forget these things and elevate only the vessel as a god?
God has done many fine works through Jesus, His Son who was existing alongside Him before He sent him into the world.Nope. A being who was existing in the form of, and having glory beside God, before he was made into a human being.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2012,06:09) Hi Jammin,
From your cold prison cell you think we are lost?
from you cold prison cell, you are lost LOLread the context of john 1.1 and you will know the true meaning of the verse. also, stop sniffing mosquito coil while reading LOL
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,19:06) Hi MB,
Where is theis BEING called as such in scripture?
Where are human BEINGS ever called such in scripture? Should we then assume that no human BEINGS are mentioned in the whole of scripture?Where does scripture allow for something that WAS God to become something that isn't God anymore?
Hi MB,
Please do show where the BEING you say was in heaven before becoming a man.
What God can do is not defined by your imagination.The WORD is not said to have been a BEING there
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2012,20:27) Hi MB,
Should men demand that God does things their way and according to their rules of logic?
Nthat is what you do;
each time that you do not believe the words that Christ says plainly ,and make it your interpretation what you think you are doing
?example; Jn 14:1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.
Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was in the nature of God. (foot notes INV)
Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.Lk 1:2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the Word.(Christ)
Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacyPr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
from the beginning, before the world began.
Pr 8:24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth,
when there were no springs abounding with water;
Pr 8:25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
Pr 8:26 before he made the earth or its fields
or any of the dust of the world.
Pr 8:27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
Pr 8:28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
Pr 8:29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
Pr 8:30 Then I was the craftsman at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
Pr 8:31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankind.TELL ME NICK BETWEEN ALL THOSE SCRIPTURES IS THERE ANY CONTRADICTION
IF YES SHOW ME ,IF NOT WHY DO YOU NOT BELIEVE THEM JUST THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN THERE IS MORE ;;;;
Hi Pierre,
None of those verses assert what you suggest,
so you will at least need to show more that actually do.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi T,
None of these speak of Jesus of Nazareth but are about the Word.
Of course after the Jordan Jesus was one with the WordQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2012,08:27) Hi MB,
Should men demand that God does things their way and according to their rules of logic?
Nick,According to the verb use the Word was continuously with God in the beginning. Was being in a past with continuous or progressive actions. That was the situation in the Age called the beginning.
Where do you read that the same situation is not still ongoing?
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