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Quote (Colter @ May 02 2012,05:58) Quote (Ed J @ May 02 2012,05:11) Quote (Colter @ May 01 2012,21:20) Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2012,11:52) Quote (Colter @ May 01 2012,11:36) Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2012,09:20) HI Colter, Hearsay and popular opinion,
nothing that could be considered as evidence?Pointing to (Chronicles and Kings) the books of the scribes of the king,
to classify these as less than canon, would the book of Urantia not fall into this same classification?God bless
Ed J
Pride blinds Ed j, you have your entire faith life invested in the perfection of the Bible. There is little chance that you could ever concede imperfection of “the idol”. The Jehovah's Witness sect would not be happy with you either.I find that people don't believe some of the bigger whoppers in the bible because they sound true, they believe them because they are in the current collection of books that comprise the Bible.
For instance, if the flood story was not in the Bible and someone recently dug up a story like that with the Dead Sea scrolls, then thinking men would discount such a ridiculous story out of hand. But, because the Hebrews wrote that in to connect dead end blood lines with Adam, people actually teach that nonsense. And not only do innocent children trust it because the adults teach it, but adults actually still believe the flood story.
Anyhow, you can and will ignore the analysis used to show the evidence of multiple authors in the OT books, carry on.
Colter
Hi Colter, (Link to evidence)Rudimentary logic proves nothing either.
I have documented the authenticity of the “The Bible's” divine Authorship.
The only thing the book of Urania has is its self proclamations. (kinda like the quran)God bless
Ed J
(1)The Urantia book revealed unknown scientific facts in it's day, science is now catching up with those bold statements.To the contrary, (2)science has continually shown that the historic facts of the Bible are inaccurate, but (3)bible worshippers tend to be intellectually dishonest people (4)because they have put their faith in the book instead of the God whose actions inspired some events that the human authors wrote about in the books of the various cannon's.
Colter
Hi Colter,Where is the evidence of these “three” assertions that YOU make?
4) spin
God bless
Ed J
1) UB The News3) My experience
Colter
Hi Colter,1) What specific piece or pieces of news is your evidence?
2) No time-lines are given concerning how old the earth is.
3) Opinion is not eyewitness testimony; no evidence here.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Colter @ May 02 2012,06:06)
The Bible does not say that it is “the word of God” …Colter
Hi Colter, (Evidence #1)“The LORD gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.” (Psalms 68:11)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Colter,
God can make sons of Abraham from stones and can make stones cry out.
Using wayward men to deliver the treasures is not unusual.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 02 2012,07:56) Hi Colter,
But if your god is not of the word who is your God?
A living God.Jesus put it best in his instructions to the apostles revealed in the Urantia revelation:
“The authority of truth is the very spirit that indwells its living manifestations, and not the dead words of the less illuminated and supposedly inspired men of another generation. And even if these holy men of old lived inspired and spirit-filled lives, that does not mean that their words were similarly spiritually inspired. Today we make no record of the teachings of this gospel of the kingdom lest, when I have gone, you speedily become divided up into sundry groups of truth contenders as a result of the diversity of your interpretation of my teachings. For this generation it is best that we live these truths while we shun the making of records.”
Colter
Quote (Ed J @ May 02 2012,07:52) Quote (Colter @ May 02 2012,05:58) Quote (Ed J @ May 02 2012,05:11) Quote (Colter @ May 01 2012,21:20) Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2012,11:52) Quote (Colter @ May 01 2012,11:36) Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2012,09:20) HI Colter, Hearsay and popular opinion,
nothing that could be considered as evidence?Pointing to (Chronicles and Kings) the books of the scribes of the king,
to classify these as less than canon, would the book of Urantia not fall into this same classification?God bless
Ed J
Pride blinds Ed j, you have your entire faith life invested in the perfection of the Bible. There is little chance that you could ever concede imperfection of “the idol”. The Jehovah's Witness sect would not be happy with you either.I find that people don't believe some of the bigger whoppers in the bible because they sound true, they believe them because they are in the current collection of books that comprise the Bible.
For instance, if the flood story was not in the Bible and someone recently dug up a story like that with the Dead Sea scrolls, then thinking men would discount such a ridiculous story out of hand. But, because the Hebrews wrote that in to connect dead end blood lines with Adam, people actually teach that nonsense. And not only do innocent children trust it because the adults teach it, but adults actually still believe the flood story.
Anyhow, you can and will ignore the analysis used to show the evidence of multiple authors in the OT books, carry on.
Colter
Hi Colter, (Link to evidence)Rudimentary logic proves nothing either.
I have documented the authenticity of the “The Bible's” divine Authorship.
The only thing the book of Urania has is its self proclamations. (kinda like the quran)God bless
Ed J
(1)The Urantia book revealed unknown scientific facts in it's day, science is now catching up with those bold statements.To the contrary, (2)science has continually shown that the historic facts of the Bible are inaccurate, but (3)bible worshippers tend to be intellectually dishonest people (4)because they have put their faith in the book instead of the God whose actions inspired some events that the human authors wrote about in the books of the various cannon's.
Colter
Hi Colter,Where is the evidence of these “three” assertions that YOU make?
4) spin
God bless
Ed J
1) UB The News3) My experience
Colter
Hi Colter,1) What specific piece or pieces of news is your evidence?
2) No time-lines are given concerning how old the earth is.
3) Opinion is not eyewitness testimony; no evidence here.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED j,The reports are on the link I provided. If you want to know what has been substantiated by science as concerns the UB then you will need to do some work, I realize that you don't really want an answer rather you just want to quibble.
Swats at gnats, swallows camels!
Colter
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 02 2012,08:50) Hi Colter,
Man's 'wisdom' tastes best to you?
Better then the cool-aid Nick, better then the cool-aid.Colter
Quote (Colter @ May 01 2012,13:06) Kerwin< 2 Timothy 3:16 (“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” ) was not yet “scripture” when it was written.
But the entire Old Testament, including the great flood of Noah's day, was a part of the “All scripture” that Paul said was God-breathed, right?Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 02 2012,09:04) Hi Colter,
Science is a sufficient measure for God?
Science is the imperfect study of Gods material creation and the rules that govern it. When corrupt holy men write stories and ascribe them to God, then science can eventually weed out fact from fiction.Colter
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2012,09:17) Quote (Colter @ May 01 2012,13:06) Kerwin< 2 Timothy 3:16 (“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” ) was not yet “scripture” when it was written.
But the entire Old Testament, including the great flood of Noah's day, was a part of the “All scripture” that Paul said was God-breathed, right?
That would be a good point, if Paul wrote Timothy 2 (which is disputed) then this merely shows what Paul’s personal opinion was.Ya know, for 2,000 years the Jews have been using their “scripture” to show that Jesus wasn't the Jewish Messiah? They know their own writing pretty well.
Colter
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 02 2012,09:14) Hi Colter ,
If science can measure the ways of your god
your god is not our God
There is only one God, and even though you say he wrote a book NONE of you can even agree on exactly what it says.Colter
Quote (Colter @ May 01 2012,16:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2012,09:17) Quote (Colter @ May 01 2012,13:06) Kerwin< 2 Timothy 3:16 (“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” ) was not yet “scripture” when it was written.
But the entire Old Testament, including the great flood of Noah's day, was a part of the “All scripture” that Paul said was God-breathed, right?
That would be a good point, if Paul wrote Timothy 2 (which is disputed) then this merely shows what Paul’s personal opinion was.Ya know, for 2,000 years the Jews have been using their “scripture” to show that Jesus wasn't the Jewish Messiah? They know their own writing pretty well.
Colter
So then it's not just the OT that you take aim at, but parts of the NT as well?How do you personally judge for yourself which scripture is inspired of God and which one is not?
(And I think your source concluded that 2nd Timothy was the letter Paul actually wrote, right?)
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