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What “paradox” would there be in God causing a spirit being to be conceived and born as a human being? And of what “confusion” do you speak?
Please explain. Jesus said we must be born again. Yet you contend that it was impossible for God to cause Jesus to be born again. It seems you're inventing your own “confusion” and “paradox” where there is none.
But I will wait for your explanation nonetheless.
Quote (kerwin @ April 21 2012,21:11) Pierre, Did God require either a man or a woman for Adam’s conception?
He can have a human being conceived in any way he chooses and does have humans conceived in multiple ways. Even though they are conceived in multiple ways they are all conceived and before conception there is no existence as a whole being; since conception is the beginning.
Scripture does not say Jesus was implanted; it declares he was conceived.
Luke 1:31
King James Version (KJV)31And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luke 1:36
King James Version (KJV)36And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.
Kyou running away ,Adam is a new creation (first man) God stopped creating on earth on the six day and start resting on the seven day,
no man can save any one because he is born in sin ,a sinner can not save another sinner ,
read your scriptures ,because you do not believe them any way
Quote (kerwin @ April 21 2012,11:10) Quote (jammin @ April 20 2012,10:37) kerwin, can you say that the word was with kerwin?
LOLyour doctrine is so funny.
Jammin,A person's word is their doctrine.
A person is the word by which they live.A true believer is the word of God and the word of God is with them.
I strive to be the word and have the word with me and I hope you do as well.
the word was with kerwin. LOLand the word was kerwin LOL
that is illogical to say that that word is not a person
Quote (Ed J @ April 21 2012,20:17) Quote (terraricca @ April 21 2012,12:25) K so was Sara Abraham 's wife ,with Issac,
but try to concentrate on Jesus Christ ;
Hi Pierre,By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and
he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son” (Heb 11:17)“In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world,
that we might live through him.” (1 John 4:9)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjso you agree that you can not send someone that do not exist
right
Quote (terraricca @ April 21 2012,14:53) Quote (Ed J @ April 21 2012,20:17) Quote (terraricca @ April 21 2012,12:25) K so was Sara Abraham 's wife ,with Issac,
but try to concentrate on Jesus Christ ;
Hi Pierre,By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and
he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son” (Heb 11:17)“In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world,
that we might live through him.” (1 John 4:9)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjso you agree that you can not send someone that do not exist
right
PIERRE,What are you talking about?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ April 21 2012,14:41) What “paradox” would there be in God causing a spirit being to be conceived and born as a human being? And of what “confusion” do you speak? Please explain. Jesus said we must be born again. Yet you contend that it was impossible for God to cause Jesus to be born again. It seems you're inventing your own “confusion” and “paradox” where there is none.
But I will wait for your explanation nonetheless.
Hi MB,
So when was you preexistent lesser god born first??Hi Jammin,
So you confess that logic is your foundation.Jesus was sent into the world
and he sent his brothers into the world[jn17]so what did you prove?
Quote (jammin @ April 21 2012,09:49) Quote (kerwin @ April 21 2012,11:10)
Jammin,A person's word is their doctrine.
A person is the word by which they live.A true believer is the word of God and the word of God is with them.
I strive to be the word and have the word with me and I hope you do as well.
the word was with kerwin. LOLand the word was kerwin LOL
that is illogical to say that that word is not a person
Jammin,It is a poetic way of stating I live according to and speak my doctrine. It also serves the purpose of revealing that the Word is not a person.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2012,17:12) Hi Jammin,
So you cofess that logic is your foundation.
Jesus was sent and he sent his brothers into the world[jn17] so what did you prove?
Hi Nick,The 'rudiments' are going to get BURNED UP!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ April 21 2012,09:41) What “paradox” would there be in God causing a spirit being to be conceived and born as a human being? And of what “confusion” do you speak? Please explain. Jesus said we must be born again. Yet you contend that it was impossible for God to cause Jesus to be born again. It seems you're inventing your own “confusion” and “paradox” where there is none.
But I will wait for your explanation nonetheless.
Mike,Any living being is conceived once because conception is the beginning of their being. They are not a full being before conception. Stating Jesus was conceived before he was conceived is therefore a paradox.
God did not have Jesus “crawl back into his mother's womb” to be born again; nor was he implanted.
It is simple to believe when Scripture declares he was conceived in his mother's womb that he started existence in his mother's womb. If the Spirit wanted to demonstrate that Jesus was not then it would not have used the Greek word for conception.
Quote (terraricca @ April 21 2012,14:53) Quote (Ed J @ April 21 2012,20:17) Quote (terraricca @ April 21 2012,12:25) K so was Sara Abraham 's wife ,with Issac,
but try to concentrate on Jesus Christ ;
Hi Pierre,By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and
he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son” (Heb 11:17)“In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world,
that we might live through him.” (1 John 4:9)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjso you agree that you can not send someone that do not exist
right
Hi T,
God sends His Spirit and they are created and He renews the face of the earth.Not a SOMEONE
Quote (terraricca @ April 21 2012,09:49) Quote (kerwin @ April 21 2012,21:11) Pierre, Did God require either a man or a woman for Adam’s conception?
He can have a human being conceived in any way he chooses and does have humans conceived in multiple ways. Even though they are conceived in multiple ways they are all conceived and before conception there is no existence as a whole being; since conception is the beginning.
Scripture does not say Jesus was implanted; it declares he was conceived.
Luke 1:31
King James Version (KJV)31And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luke 1:36
King James Version (KJV)36And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.
Kyou running away ,Adam is a new creation (first man) God stopped creating on earth on the six day and start resting on the seven day,
no man can save any one because he is born in sin ,a sinner can not save another sinner ,
read your scriptures ,because you do not believe them any way
Pierre,Adam was conceived as the first human being but he served as a model of those to come; of whom Jesus was one of their number.
We see from how Adam came to be that has the power to create a man with neither father or mother.
Though the Act of Creation was done six days God continues to do works of wonder and other works to this day.
One of these works is that he causes certain females in the animal kingdom too conceive offspring while yet virgins. That he did this with Mary as well was his choice just like it is when he chooses to do it with certain animals. Why do you have trouble believing these things?
A human being is born a servant of sin but the Spirit of God sets him free. God gave Jesus the Spirit, setting him free, because pleased him above all men.
A free man who did not earn the wages of sin never the less chose to lay down his life for his brothers who did.
Hi KW,
Jesus did not need to be baptised because he was clean by full obedience to the Law.
Water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ washes the conscience of the repentant
The Spirit of God does not set men free but gives them the power to become so.Quote (jammin @ April 21 2012,21:32) what is the connction of your opinion in john 1.1? stick to the topic
Jammin, whenever truth is being told, you cry stick to the topic.
The Pharisees didn't want to hear what Jesus had to say either.dont you know the rules???
let me post the rule no.7
Pushing doctrines that are not related to the topic. (Pushing them in an appropriate topic is OK.)
Hi Jammin,
These verses PROVE that “The Word” is the HolySpirit”!
Are you ready to go through them one by one now?Zech.4:6
Zech.12:1Matt.13:19
Mark 4:14
Mark13:11
Mark 13:19
Luke 3:2
Luke 8:11
John 12:49
John 14:24
John 17:6-8
John 17:14
Acts 4:31
Acts 10:36-38
Acts 10:44
Acts 11:15-16
Acts 13:4-5
Acts 13:47-49
Acts 17:11
Acts 20:32
Romans 9:5-6
Romans 10:17
1Cor. 12:8-9
1Cor. 14:36
2Cor. 5:19
2Cor. 6:6-7
Gal.6:6
Eph. 1:12-13
Eph. 5:26
Eph. 6:17
Phillip.2:16
1Tm.5:17-18
2Tm.2:11-15
2Tm.4:2
Hebrews 1:1-2
Hebrews 2:2-3
Hebrews 4:2-6
Hebrews 4:8-12
Hebrews 5:13-14
Hebrews 7:28
Hebrews 11:3
Hebrews 12:19
James 1:18
1Peter 1:21-23
1Peter 2:6-8
1John 2:7-10
Rev.1:2
Rev.1:9
Rev.19:11-16
Rev.20:4God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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