JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,16:54)

Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,22:13) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,15:07) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,21:51) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,14:22) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,20:49) Hi Mike, OK. “Ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me?  yea, there is no God;       I know not any.”    (Isaiah 44:8) God bless Ed J EDJ HAVE NO HEAD ?? we do not say that Christ is God or equal to God his father we just say his is a god lesser one , ALL WHAT YOUR SCRIPTURE SAYS AND IT IS TRUE ;THERE IS NO OTHER GOD LIKE GOD THE  ALMIGHTY ,THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD LIKE IT , GOT IT ? Hi Pierre, So YOU 'think' it is OK for YOU to contradict Scripture?    …this is not wise! YOUR words are not the final authority, even if you believe they are? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj last time Moses was a god PIERRE, NOT to me! “And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh” (Ex 7:1) Are you Pharaoh? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org I am not claiming to be a little god.

No, you're foolishly claiming Jesus to be one instead.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,23:58)

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,16:54) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,22:13) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,15:07) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,21:51) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,14:22) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,20:49) Hi Mike, OK. “Ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me?  yea, there is no God;       I know not any.”    (Isaiah 44:8) God bless Ed J EDJ HAVE NO HEAD ?? we do not say that Christ is God or equal to God his father we just say his is a god lesser one , ALL WHAT YOUR SCRIPTURE SAYS AND IT IS TRUE ;THERE IS NO OTHER GOD LIKE GOD THE  ALMIGHTY ,THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD LIKE IT , GOT IT ? Hi Pierre, So YOU 'think' it is OK for YOU to contradict Scripture?    …this is not wise! YOUR words are not the final authority, even if you believe they are? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj last time Moses was a god PIERRE, NOT to me! “And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh” (Ex 7:1) Are you Pharaoh? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org I am not claiming to be a little god.       No, you're foolishly claiming Jesus to be one instead.

[terraricca]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29) It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus. Hi mike I see you are still hanging around HN, I hope you and yours are well. However it seems that you are still teaching untruths. You said….“It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” But that disagrees with this scripture and many others… For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,… Phil 1:19     Question for you Mike… Whose Spirit does the Bible say we have recieved that crys “Abba Father”? Blessings! WJ

Wj

What version of scriptures are you quoting from

It does not show up like yours in mine

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,17:07)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29) It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus. Hi mike I see you are still hanging around HN, I hope you and yours are well. However it seems that you are still teaching untruths. You said….“It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” But that disagrees with this scripture and many others… For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,… Phil 1:19     Question for you Mike… Whose Spirit does the Bible say we have recieved that crys “Abba Father”? Blessings! WJ Wj What version of scriptures are you quoting from It does not show up like yours in mine

Hi Pierre,

You need to get yourself a “real bible“!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:07)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29) It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus. Hi mike I see you are still hanging around HN, I hope you and yours are well. However it seems that you are still teaching untruths. You said….“It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” But that disagrees with this scripture and many others… For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,… Phil 1:19     Question for you Mike… Whose Spirit does the Bible say we have recieved that crys “Abba Father”? Blessings! WJ Wj What version of scriptures are you quoting from It does not show up like yours in mine

Pierre,

KJV, Cambridge edition.

Looks fairly standard to me. What version are you using?

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ April 03 2012,00:37)

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:07) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29) It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus. Hi mike I see you are still hanging around HN, I hope you and yours are well. However it seems that you are still teaching untruths. You said….“It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” But that disagrees with this scripture and many others… For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,… Phil 1:19     Question for you Mike… Whose Spirit does the Bible say we have recieved that crys “Abba Father”? Blessings! WJ Wj What version of scriptures are you quoting from It does not show up like yours in mine Pierre, KJV, Cambridge edition. Looks fairly standard to me.  What version are you using?

K

Sorry ,it is not in two of my bible English or French

We see

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,13:52)

Quote (jammin @ April 02 2012,13:03) sorry edj but you have nothing to offer here. your doctrine is from men. Hi Jammin, “My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.” (John 7:16-18) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

oh really??

why cant you read your illusion in john 1.1??

i told you to publish your own version so that your doctrine made by men will be supported by the bible.

LOL

[NickHassan]

Hi Jammin,
But you promote the ideas of men too.
Your doctrine is of tradition, not truth.

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ April 03 2012,02:40)

Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,13:52) Quote (jammin @ April 02 2012,13:03) sorry edj but you have nothing to offer here. your doctrine is from men. Hi Jammin, “My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.” (John 7:16-18) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org oh really?? why cant you read your illusion in john 1.1?? i told you to publish your own version so that your doctrine made by men will be supported by the bible. LOL

Hi Jammin,

You describe corrupted versions very well!
My question is: THEN WHY DO YOU USE THEM?

Using them proves nothing, as your words point out!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2012,05:26)

Hi Jammin, But you promote the ideas of men too. Your doctrine is of tradition, not truth.

Hi Nick,

The angels of heaven will all rejoice
when Jammin comes to this realization!

Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest,
and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,20:49)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2012,13:04) Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,20:01) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2012,12:54) Ed and Nick, I read your posts, but saw nothing to refute anything I've posted.  If you ever post something that does, I'll respond to it, okay? Hi Mike, Meaning what?    …you will then adjust your views? God bless Ed J Post something that refutes my understanding and find out. Hi Mike, OK. “Ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me?  yea, there is no God;       I know not any.”    (Isaiah 44:8) God bless Ed J

And what does that supposedly refute, Ed?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,22:15)

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,15:07) edj last time Moses was a god 1 Tim 2:5-6 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

………for there are many gods and many lords, in heaven and on earth………

Was it okay for Paul to “contradict scripture”, Ed?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2012,23:44)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29) It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus. Hi mike I see you are still hanging around HN, I hope you and yours are well. However it seems that you are still teaching untruths. You said….“It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” But that disagrees with this scripture and many others… For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,… Phil 1:19     Question for you Mike… Whose Spirit does the Bible say we have recieved that crys “Abba Father”? Blessings! WJ

Hi Keith,

As usual, you are a day late and a dollar short. Is Jesus himself “the spirit of Christ”?

Look a few posts back before the one of mine you quoted, and see what I'm refuting, okay?

Unless you think the spirit OF Christ is Jesus himself – in which case I will just roll my eyes and move on.

I hope your wife is doing okay with her illness.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,00:07)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29) It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus. Hi mike I see you are still hanging around HN, I hope you and yours are well. However it seems that you are still teaching untruths. You said….“It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” But that disagrees with this scripture and many others… For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,… Phil 1:19     Question for you Mike… Whose Spirit does the Bible say we have recieved that crys “Abba Father”? Blessings! WJ Wj What version of scriptures are you quoting from It does not show up like yours in mine

Good point, Pierre.

Here is the NIV:
for I know that through your prayers and the help given by the Spirit of Jesus Christ, what has happened to me will turn out for my deliverance.

And NETBible:
for I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayers and the help of the Spirit of Jesus Christ.

And the NLT:
For I know that as you pray for me and as the Spirit of Jesus Christ helps me, this will all turn out for my deliverance

And the NRSV:
for I know that through your prayers and the help of the Spirit of Jesus Christ this will turn out for my deliverance.

None of these suggest the Spirit of Christ makes “his” abode in anyone. Nor was that even the point I was making against Kerwin. Kerwin's point was that Jesus was not the Word himself, but that the “spirit of the Word” dwelled within Jesus.

Leave it to Keith to come to a thread where I'm arguing IN FAVOR OF something he himself believes, and instead of supporting me, he picks one sentence from my long post just so he can have something to disagree with me about.

And leave it to Keith to be WRONG about it, as usual.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
You say
'None of these suggest the Spirit of Christ makes “his” abode in anyone.”
jn 14.23

[jammin]

nick, edj,

corrupted??? bec it does not support your doctrine then you (edj) will say it is corrupted.
can you give me any single translation that says in john 1.1 that the WORD is the HS???

LOL

no version that says that. but if you publish your own version, your doctrine will now be supported LOL

make one edj:D

[terraricca]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2012,18:44)

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,00:07) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29) It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus. Hi mike I see you are still hanging around HN, I hope you and yours are well. However it seems that you are still teaching untruths. You said….“It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” But that disagrees with this scripture and many others… For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,… Phil 1:19     Question for you Mike… Whose Spirit does the Bible say we have recieved that crys “Abba Father”? Blessings! WJ Wj What version of scriptures are you quoting from It does not show up like yours in mine Good point, Pierre. Here is the NIV: for I know that through your prayers and the help given by the Spirit of Jesus Christ, what has happened to me will turn out for my deliverance. And NETBible: for I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayers and the help of the Spirit of Jesus Christ. And the NLT: For I know that as you pray for me and as the Spirit of Jesus Christ helps me, this will all turn out for my deliverance And the NRSV: for I know that through your prayers and the help of the Spirit of Jesus Christ this will turn out for my deliverance. None of these suggest the Spirit of Christ makes “his” abode in anyone.  Nor was that even the point I was making against Kerwin.  Kerwin's point was that Jesus was not the Word himself, but that the “spirit of the Word” dwelled within Jesus. Leave it to Keith to come to a thread where I'm arguing IN FAVOR OF something he himself believes, and instead of supporting me, he picks one sentence from my long post just so he can have something to disagree with me about.   And leave it to Keith to be WRONG about it, as usual.

Mike

it is one of WJ composition,edj does that to ,Nick like that a swell

it is easier to may scriptures bend to their view, than make their view bend to scriptures,

wander what is in their hearts

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Those traditional prison bars still hold you?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,19:18)

Hi MB, You say 'None of these suggest the Spirit of Christ makes “his” abode in anyone.” jn 14.23

That's right Nick. Nor does John 14:23.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
So who are the WE who will make their abode with men?

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