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Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,16:30) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,08:49) edj, kerwin, nick no need for further explanations. just read your opinion in john 1.1
if you cant read your opinion then mke your own version
Jammin,Establishing facts is not explaining. It is a fact that God, his Spirit, and the Word were in the beginning.
There is nothing even hinting at the Anointed until the Sixth Day.
that is just your opinion.but the term “GOD”
refers to the father, son and HS.
3 persons, but one in nature, GOD.
that's what the bible says.
make your own version
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,16:51) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,16:30) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,08:49) edj, kerwin, nick no need for further explanations. just read your opinion in john 1.1
if you cant read your opinion then mke your own version
Jammin,Establishing facts is not explaining. It is a fact that God, his Spirit, and the Word were in the beginning.
There is nothing even hinting at the Anointed until the Sixth Day.
that is just your opinion.but the term “GOD”
refers to the father, son and HS.
3 persons, but one in nature, GOD.
that's what the bible says.
make your own version
Hi Jammin,Where in the bible does it say “three persons”,
seems YOU have made YOUR own version; no?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,23:30) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,08:49) edj, kerwin, nick no need for further explanations. just read your opinion in john 1.1
if you cant read your opinion then mke your own version
Jammin,Establishing facts is not explaining. It is a fact that God, his Spirit, and the Word were in the beginning.
There is nothing even hinting at the Anointed until the Sixth Day.
KerwinWhy would John say that the words was with God in the beginning
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,11:51) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,16:30) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,08:49) edj, kerwin, nick no need for further explanations. just read your opinion in john 1.1
if you cant read your opinion then mke your own version
Jammin,Establishing facts is not explaining. It is a fact that God, his Spirit, and the Word were in the beginning.
There is nothing even hinting at the Anointed until the Sixth Day.
that is just your opinion.but the term “GOD”
refers to the father, son and HS.
3 persons, but one in nature, GOD.
that's what the bible says.
make your own version
Jammin,
You appear to be blind so lets go over Genesis 1:1-3 again and see if you have faith enough for the scales to fall from your eyes.
Genesis 1
King James Version (KJV)1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.Fact 1: This Scripture states it is speaking of time “In the beginning …” just as v1 states.
Fact 2: God is present as it states “…God created…”
Fact 3: His Spirit is there as it states “…the Spirit of God moved…”
Fact 4: His Word is there as it states “And God said …”
Why bother discussing any issue if you cannot tell the difference between a fact and an opinion?
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 30 2012,12:37) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,23:30) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,08:49) edj, kerwin, nick no need for further explanations. just read your opinion in john 1.1
if you cant read your opinion then mke your own version
Jammin,Establishing facts is not explaining. It is a fact that God, his Spirit, and the Word were in the beginning.
There is nothing even hinting at the Anointed until the Sixth Day.
KerwinWhy would John say that the words was with God in the beginning
Pierre,He is highlighting the role of the Word of God in relationship to the mystery of the Good News.
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2012,00:50) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 30 2012,12:37) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,23:30) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,08:49) edj, kerwin, nick no need for further explanations. just read your opinion in john 1.1
if you cant read your opinion then mke your own version
Jammin,Establishing facts is not explaining. It is a fact that God, his Spirit, and the Word were in the beginning.
There is nothing even hinting at the Anointed until the Sixth Day.
KerwinWhy would John say that the words was with God in the beginning
Pierre,He is highlighting the role of the Word of God in relationship to the mystery of the Good News.
Kthat is your interpretation,words do not walk,neither get touched ,they get written and spoken,have you not read the scriptures
and see how God has made his words written ???show me if in scriptures God uses your approach to make his words highlighting , other than saying ;;Da 12:12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.
Da 12:13 “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.Rev 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.
Rev 22:19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.what role is their for words beside to communicate
any how you can dream on your side i will keep taking scriptures for real communication and so believe John wen he says that the WORD OF GOD his Jesus Christ and Christ wen he says that he comes from above ,and that he his the son of God and not a mere man that can not save not even himself,
I will give glory for his work the work of God through the son,
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 30 2012,17:07) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,16:51) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,16:30) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,08:49) edj, kerwin, nick no need for further explanations. just read your opinion in john 1.1
if you cant read your opinion then mke your own version
Jammin,Establishing facts is not explaining. It is a fact that God, his Spirit, and the Word were in the beginning.
There is nothing even hinting at the Anointed until the Sixth Day.
that is just your opinion.but the term “GOD”
refers to the father, son and HS.
3 persons, but one in nature, GOD.
that's what the bible says.
make your own version
Hi Jammin,Where in the bible does it say “three persons”,
seems YOU have made YOUR own version; no?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
if i can read that to you in the bible, will you accpt that you are a false teacher?yes or no?
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,17:44) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,11:51) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,16:30) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,08:49) edj, kerwin, nick no need for further explanations. just read your opinion in john 1.1
if you cant read your opinion then mke your own version
Jammin,Establishing facts is not explaining. It is a fact that God, his Spirit, and the Word were in the beginning.
There is nothing even hinting at the Anointed until the Sixth Day.
that is just your opinion.but the term “GOD”
refers to the father, son and HS.
3 persons, but one in nature, GOD.
that's what the bible says.
make your own version
Jammin,
You appear to be blind so lets go over Genesis 1:1-3 again and see if you have faith enough for the scales to fall from your eyes.
Genesis 1
King James Version (KJV)1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.Fact 1: This Scripture states it is speaking of time “In the beginning …” just as v1 states.
Fact 2: God is present as it states “…God created…”
Fact 3: His Spirit is there as it states “…the Spirit of God moved…”
Fact 4: His Word is there as it states “And God said …”
Why bother discussing any issue if you cannot tell the difference between a fact and an opinion?
so what is the problem with the verse??the Son was with God in the beginning.
Christ is called the WORD
john 1.1the term “GOD” refers to the father, son and HS.
three persons but one in nature, GOD
the father is GOD
the son is GOD
the HS is GODthat's what the bible says.
make your own version.
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 31 2012,01:35) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 30 2012,17:07) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,16:51) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,16:30) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,08:49) edj, kerwin, nick no need for further explanations. just read your opinion in john 1.1
if you cant read your opinion then mke your own version
Jammin,Establishing facts is not explaining. It is a fact that God, his Spirit, and the Word were in the beginning.
There is nothing even hinting at the Anointed until the Sixth Day.
that is just your opinion.but the term “GOD”
refers to the father, son and HS.
3 persons, but one in nature, GOD.
that's what the bible says.
make your own version
Hi Jammin,Where in the bible does it say “three persons”,
seems YOU have made YOUR own version; no?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
if i can read that to you in the bible, will you accpt that you are a false teacher?yes or no?
Hi Jammin,Corrupted versions mean NOTHING!
But if you think it does, then post it.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 31 2012,01:45) three persons but one in nature, GOD
Hi Jammin,'three persons'? where?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,20:45) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,17:44) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,11:51) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,16:30) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2012,08:49) edj, kerwin, nick no need for further explanations. just read your opinion in john 1.1
if you cant read your opinion then mke your own version
Jammin,Establishing facts is not explaining. It is a fact that God, his Spirit, and the Word were in the beginning.
There is nothing even hinting at the Anointed until the Sixth Day.
that is just your opinion.but the term “GOD”
refers to the father, son and HS.
3 persons, but one in nature, GOD.
that's what the bible says.
make your own version
Jammin,
You appear to be blind so lets go over Genesis 1:1-3 again and see if you have faith enough for the scales to fall from your eyes.
Genesis 1
King James Version (KJV)1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.Fact 1: This Scripture states it is speaking of time “In the beginning …” just as v1 states.
Fact 2: God is present as it states “…God created…”
Fact 3: His Spirit is there as it states “…the Spirit of God moved…”
Fact 4: His Word is there as it states “And God said …”
Why bother discussing any issue if you cannot tell the difference between a fact and an opinion?
so what is the problem with the verse??the Son was with God in the beginning.
Christ is called the WORD
john 1.1the term “GOD” refers to the father, son and HS.
three persons but one in nature, GOD
the father is GOD
the son is GOD
the HS is GODthat's what the bible says.
make your own version.
Jammin,I was just establishing a few facts. Here are some more we should agree on.
Do you agree:
1) God thinks, does, and says his Word?
2) The Spirit reveals God's Word?
3) Jesus thinks, does, and says the Word.
Kerwin
Quote Do you agree: 1) God thinks, does, and says his Word?
2) The Spirit reveals God's Word?
3) Jesus thinks, does, and says the Word.
1)God talks,and men writes his words ,(wen God thinks men was not yet created)
2)some of is spirit or angels are used to reveals the hidden understanding of his words,
3)Jesus the son of God known as THE WORD,does and reveals the secrets of his father words and will.
any other way is untrue
Pierre;
Quote that is your interpretation You asked my opinion and I gave it; that being that John was emphasizing the role of the Word in the mystery of the gospel.
Quote words do not walk,neither get touched ,they get written and spoken The Word of God does more than get spoken and written.
Isaiah 55:11
King James Version (KJV)11So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
It goes forth from God, it returns to God, it accomplishes God’s purpose, and prospers in that purpose.
The Word of God is God since God Loves as he commands others to love. The Word of God was with God when he sent it forth out of his mouth. It began to accomplish its goal by making a home in the human being Jesus; so making him the Son of God. It was revealed by Jesus’ actions, thoughts, and words. It continued to accomplish its purpose through Jesus as he chose to sacrifice himself for us, was entombed, resurrected in the flesh, and ascended to sit on the right hand of God. It still prospers as Jesus mediates the New Covenant by it.
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2012,19:50) Pierre; Quote that is your interpretation You asked my opinion and I gave it; that being that John was emphasizing the role of the Word in the mystery of the gospel.
Quote words do not walk,neither get touched ,they get written and spoken The Word of God does more than get spoken and written.
Isaiah 55:11
King James Version (KJV)11So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
It goes forth from God, it returns to God, it accomplishes God’s purpose, and prospers in that purpose.
The Word of God is God since God Loves as he commands others to love. The Word of God was with God when he sent it forth out of his mouth. It began to accomplish its goal by making a home in the human being Jesus; so making him the Son of God. It was revealed by Jesus’ actions, thoughts, and words. It continued to accomplish its purpose through Jesus as he chose to sacrifice himself for us, was entombed, resurrected in the flesh, and ascended to sit on the right hand of God. It still prospers as Jesus mediates the New Covenant by it.
KQuote The Word of God is God since God Loves as he commands others to love. The Word of God was with God when he sent it forth out of his mouth. It began to accomplish its goal by making a home in the human being Jesus; so making him the Son of God. It was revealed by Jesus’ actions, thoughts, and words. It continued to accomplish its purpose through Jesus as he chose to sacrifice himself for us, was entombed, resurrected in the flesh, and ascended to sit on the right hand of God. It still prospers as Jesus mediates the New Covenant by it. all you say here is not in scriptures
Quote It goes forth from God, it returns to God, it accomplishes God’s purpose, and prospers in that purpose. and this is true but in the sens that wen he say something it will always be done and never stay without accomplishment ,
got nothing the do with the WORD OF GOD, but hey you can't see it to bad
K
Quote You asked my opinion and I gave it; that being that John was emphasizing the role of the Word in the mystery of the gospel. there is no mystery in the gospel ,this is your invention
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,13:57) Do you agree: 1) God thinks, does, and says his Word?
2) The Spirit reveals God's Word?
3) Jesus thinks, does, and says the Word.
Kerwin,You pretend to assume that every mention of “word” in the scriptures has the same meaning. Yes, a word is something God or anyone can speak or write. That kind of “word” is not to be confused with God's main spokesperson, who has been given the TITLE “The Word of God”, because he speaks the words (a different meaning than in the title) of God to others.
And I say you “pretend”, because I know that you know full well what you are doing.
The king of Abyssinia of old had a spokesman who went by the TITLE “The Word of the King”. Now, would you seriously confuse this PERSON with an actual word the king spoke or wrote?
If not, then why do you PRETEND to confuse the PERSON Jesus, who is called by the title “The Word of God”, with other spoken or written words of God? Mike,
Quote You claim “pretend to assume that every mention of “word” in the scriptures has the same meaning.” I believe the Word of God is the Word of God even when it is Jesus’ title.
Quote That kind of “word” is not to be confused with God's main spokesperson, who has been given the TITLE “The Word of God”, because he speaks the words (a different meaning than in the title) of God to others. He also bears the titles Faithful, True, and King of Kings among others.
Quote The king of Abyssinia of old had a spokesman who went by the TITLE “The Word of the King”. Now, would you seriously confuse this PERSON with an actual word the king spoke or wrote? I do not confuse that person with Jesus. Jesus is much more than a spokesman for God.
Quote If not, then why do you PRETEND to confuse the PERSON Jesus, who is called by the title “The Word of God”, with other spoken or written words of God? The prophets were each spokesmen of God. Jesus is much greater than they are.
You state that I pretend and yet you fail to consider your viewpoint is colored by Trinitarian heresy. It is an attempt to break free from that demonic lie; but you are yet ensnared by Satan.
We are taught that God put his Word in Balaam’s mouth, Numbers 23:5 ; how much more did he put it in the mind of Jesus Anointed and write it on his heart as the Prototype and Archetype of his children to come.
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2012,08:15) K Quote You asked my opinion and I gave it; that being that John was emphasizing the role of the Word in the mystery of the gospel. there is no mystery in the gospel ,this is your invention
Pierre,Ephesians 6:19
King James Version (KJV)19And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Romans 16:25
King James Version (KJV)25Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,00:27) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2012,08:15) K Quote You asked my opinion and I gave it; that being that John was emphasizing the role of the Word in the mystery of the gospel. there is no mystery in the gospel ,this is your invention
Pierre,Ephesians 6:19
King James Version (KJV)19And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Romans 16:25
King James Version (KJV)25Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
KRo 16:23 Gaius, whose hospitality I and the whole church here enjoy, sends you his greetings.
Erastus, who is the city’s director of public works, and our brother Quartus send you their greetings.
Ro 16:25 Now to him who is able to establish you by my gospel and the proclamation of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past,
Ro 16:26 but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all nations might believe and obey him—
Ro 16:27 to the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen.I do not see mystery ,Paul only says that what God ad hidden as now been reveal ,and that is the gospel.
Eph 6:14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place,
Eph 6:15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
Eph 6:16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
Eph 6:17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
Eph 6:18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.
Eph 6:19 Pray also for me, that whenever I open my mouth, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel,
Eph 6:20 for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may declare it fearlessly, as I should.Paul does not say THE MYSTERIES IN THE GOSPEL ,but to preach the mystery of the gospel do you see the difference
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