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Kerwin…….Yes i do believe that angles exist, they are messengers sent out from God to minister His will to us as Hebrews says. We are also to become like the angles also as Jesus said. They do Exist. IMO
love and peace to you and yours……………………….gene
Kerwin…….thats (ALL) Spirit is , it is just simply (intellect) and it can be of GOD (Holy Spirit) or of the world (worldly) but either way it is just expressed intellect no matter what source it comes from. So we are able to try the spirits by a persons words because his words reflect to us his intellect which describes who and what he or she is. (SO A MAN THINKETH SO HE IS) it's just that simple. But people want to make it far more complicated then it is applying some kind of mystery to it as all pagan religions do. There is nothing complicated about Spirit , its just simply expressed intellect , expressed through our words. IMO
love and peace to you and yours……………………………gene
Hi,
Intellect has no compassion or power but is just a mechanism for thought.
A shallow view of God and man.G,
Before you blow your stack remember angels are spirits.
Intellect however does not appear in scripture
A gnostic addition perhaps?
Hebrews 1:7
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.Gene wrote:
Quote There is nothing complicated about Spirit , its just simply expressed intellect , expressed through our words.
I am sure you have an idea you wish to express but the words you chose to express it are not correct. It is true that there is a meaning that one intends with a group of words one chooses to communicate with and that meaning is called the spirit but that does not mean that all spirits are the intended meaning behind a group of words. In fact I believe Word is used to describe a characteristic common to both God and His Spirit. When the Spirit came and inhabited Jesus then that characteristic was also transferred to him and I believe it occurred and maybe caused his conception(creation) at the same time. The Spirit is a quality of qualities of God which He transfers to those that believe. It has some static characteristics in that it allows those it inhabits to love themselves and others as God does which is an emotion but an emotion that is taught even as God’s unlimited power works to change the one being taught. It has some variable characteristics as different gifts of the Spirit are given to different people but even that is done as God decides.
I want to point out that “expressed” means “definitely and explicitly stated” according to the Fourth Edition of The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language. I would not say the Spirit is God’s expressed intellect though it certainly effects the intellect of the person inhabited and God can speak through it and thus through the person inhabited. In other words a person inhabited by the Spirit does not become as intelligent as God.
Quote (Gene @ April 01 2009,17:28) David…….Spirit is Power of the intellect. Jesus described it as such. He said the Spirit is like the wind (a power) you cant see it (thoughts are the same) But you can see the effects of it, (fruits produced in ones life). So is everyone born of the Spirit of GOD. peace and love to you and yours………………………………..gene
“spirit is power of the intellect.”–gene.Bible, no.
“Jesus described it as such.”
Really? where? Please reference your scriptures.
“He said the spirit is like the wind (a power) you can't see it (thoughts are the same.)”
If he said the spirit is “like the wind” how oh how, does that mean that the spirit is intellect? Does “wind” mean “intellect” to you?
Gene, if you would actually start referencing your scriptures, and quoting them directly, your ideas would become a lot less popular.
Quote Kerwin…….thats (ALL) Spirit is , it is just simply (intellect) –gene.
No offence, Gene, but thousands of scriptures disagree with you. Let's look at them, one by one…..
“Just as you are not aware of what is the way of the spirit in the bones in the belly of her that is pregnant, in like manner you do not know the work of the [true] God, who does all things.”
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 28 2009,19:55) If John meant Jesus then why didn't he say Jesus?
Surely his earthly parents gave him the name that he had on earth.Quote (david @ April 01 2009,16:51) Quote Spirit is simply intellect Why is it that despite reason, logic, the Bible, and dictionaries, do you keep asserting this.
True, sometimes the spirit is portrayed as intellect. But other times it is portrayed in a way that doesn't fit that. Clearly, the spirit is bigger than intellect. It is a word that can be used in a variety of ways.
To add to that, it is written that we will be given spiritual bodies. First the carnal body, then the spiritual.So is there a such thing as a mind body?
1 Corinthians 15:43-44
43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.Quote (Gene @ April 01 2009,17:28) David…….Spirit is Power of the intellect. Jesus described it as such. He said the Spirit is like the wind (a power) you cant see it (thoughts are the same) But you can see the effects of it, (fruits produced in ones life). So is everyone born of the Spirit of GOD. peace and love to you and yours………………………………..gene
Gene. Spirit is like water it gives life.
The river of life is Spirit proceeding from the throne of God and pours out into his creation.When Adam had the breath/spirit given to him, he became a living soul. Spirit enables a living mind. It gives life of which a mind could not exist without.
John 4:10
10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”T8 wrote:
Quote Surely his earthly parents gave him the name that he had on earth.
Then why didn’t John use Immanuel which is Jesus’ prophetic name.
Isaiah 7:14(NIV) reads:
Quote Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2009,16:02) Hi KW,
Indeed he was known as “God with Us”“God has visited His people”
How?Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2009,20:58) T8 wrote: Quote Surely his earthly parents gave him the name that he had on earth.
Then why didn’t John use Immanuel which is Jesus’ prophetic name.
Isaiah 7:14(NIV) reads:
Quote Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
People referred to him as Yeshua.And yes, God was in him redeeming the world to himself.
I also think that Yeshua has Yah in his name. Some spell it as Yahshua or something similar.
Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2009,21:08) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2009,16:02) Hi KW,
Indeed he was known as “God with Us”“God has visited His people”
How?
2 Corinthians 5:19
namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.t8 wrote:
Quote People referred to him as Yeshua.
That is because that is semblance of the Hebrew spelling of the name Joshua which means the same thing that the Greek name Jesus does and if I remember correctly that is “The Lord Saves”. Still my question is why God didn’t use the name Emmanuel instead of the word “Word” in John 1:1.
t8 wrote:
Quote And yes, God was in him redeeming the world to himself
Is that like the Word being made into flesh?
Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2009,22:16) t8 wrote: Quote People referred to him as Yeshua.
That is because that is semblance of the Hebrew spelling of the name Joshua which means the same thing that the Greek name Jesus does and if I remember correctly that is “The Lord Saves”. Still my question is why God didn’t use the name Emmanuel instead of the word “Word” in John 1:1.
t8 wrote:
Quote And yes, God was in him redeeming the world to himself
Is that like the Word being made into flesh?
because immanuel does not accurately describe Jesus relation to his father like “the word” does…Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2009,21:08) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2009,16:02) Hi KW,
Indeed he was known as “God with Us”“God has visited His people”
How?
Hi KW,
God was IN Christ reconciling the world to Himself.
2Cor5Quote (t8 @ April 02 2009,20:25) Quote (Gene @ April 01 2009,17:28) David…….Spirit is Power of the intellect. Jesus described it as such. He said the Spirit is like the wind (a power) you cant see it (thoughts are the same) But you can see the effects of it, (fruits produced in ones life). So is everyone born of the Spirit of GOD. peace and love to you and yours………………………………..gene
Gene. Spirit is like water it gives life.
The river of life is Spirit proceeding from the throne of God and pours out into his creation.When Adam had the breath/spirit given to him, he became a living soul. Spirit enables a living mind. It gives life of which a mind could not exist without.
John 4:10
10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”
T8……Thoughts give us intellect and they flow from one person to another also, Water is Just a Symbolic view of How Spirit (intellect) can also flow, GOD Poured Out His Spirit (INTELLECT) into the earth, There is Godly intellect and there is worldly intellect all Spirit is expressed in words and flows from one to another, through the air as we speak or write those words. Waters and Rivers is ONLY SYMBOLIC for the (flowing process) of intellect expressed through Spirit, (WORDS)>.If all thought were removed from you, you would not longer have life, you would be as if you never existed. “For in the day thy (die) thy thoughts parish. Life given Man is His thoughts and Intellect, given him from GOD. Life (IS) thought or INTELLECT, and is expressed in words as Jesus plainly said. IMO
peace and love to you and yours brother……………………..gene
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