Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach?

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  • #801367
    NickHassan
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    Hi MB,

    When did what we THINK become relevant to the revelation of God?

    Get it right.

    #801369
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick……BECAUSE GOD REAVEALS THINGS INTO OUR MINDS AND OUR MIND IS WHAT WE THINK WITH. I find it hard to believe you do not understand that. NO WONDER YOU BELIEVE SPIRITS DO NOT PASS ON their “INTELLECTS” INTO OUR MINDS.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene

    #801374
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    Perhaps you  trust your own understanding too much.

    Your thoughts are not of heaven but just your own.

    Otherwise they would resonate with what is written.

    #801375
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    It is vanity to assume that your thoughts are inspired when the fruit of them is new teachings, such as spirit is intellect.

    #801396
    NickHassan
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    Hi MB,

    Now John the baptist is another story.

    He is identified as a MESSENGER in Mk1, Mt 11 and in Luke

    So you would confidently proclaim that he is an ANGEL?

    #801406
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,

    Sop was John the baptist an angel?

    Do you have the right to decide that Jesus was an angel without any scriptural support?

    #801444
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick……So what “YOU” post here is strictly what is written in scripture, but what we post is from our own minds, now are we to”assume” your mind produce GOD’S THOUGHTS BUT OURS DO NOT, YOUR MIND IS LED by the spirit of GOD, BUT OUR ARE NOT?

    When JESUS SAID THE “WORDS” (INTELLEGENT UTTERANCES) I AM TELLING YOU “ARE SPIRIT”, AND LIFE. And where it says if these “WORDS” (INTELLEGENT UTTERANCES) ABIDE “IN”YOU, YOU DON’T BELIEVE THOSE WORDS “ARE” TYPES AND KINDS OF INTELLECTS THAT FEED OUR MINDS, BUT ONLY “YOURS” WORDS (INTELLEGENT UTTERANCES) CAN PRODUCE THE WORD OF GOD TO US. HOW VAIN, HOW ARROGANT, HOW SELF ABSORD, can a person be?

    peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene

    #801445
    GeneBalthrop
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    MIKE……Jesus was indeed a messenger of GOD, JUST AS THE PROPHETS WERE ALSO, BUT NONE OF THAT MADE HIM AN ANGEL BEING, NO MORE THEN IT MADE THE PROPHETS ANGELS EITHER. Why does scripture clearly say HEB 2:5… “GOD HAS NOT PUT IN SUBJECTION THE WORLD TO COME UNTO ANGELS” ,

    HEB 2:9… “But we see JESUS WHO WAS MADE A LITTLE LOWER THE THE ANGELS”, SO ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC, JESUS WAS A LITTLE LOWER THE A MESSENGER’S, RIGHT? WE ARE TO GO BY YOUR LOGIC THAT THE WORD ANGEL MEANS STRICLY “MESSENGERS”, THEN IT FOLLOWS THAT EVEN THE MESSENGERS WILL NOT BE IN CHARGE OF THE WORLD TO COME, Heb 2:5, THAT EVEN RULES OUT JESUS AND ALL THE PROPHETS, ACCORDING TO YOUR THINKING RIGHT?

    peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene

    #801454
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    The fruit of your claim is that you can admire your own utterances as if they must be from God.

    If they were you would find it written

    Spirit is intellect is not

    #801455
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Since your teachings are unscriptural then

    at best you are adding them to scripture

    and at worst offering them as an alternative.

    #801565
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…..The words I have posted are scriptural you simply seem unable to understand them, that’s not my fault now is it. Anyone who believes Spirits are not intelligent, lacks scriptural decernment. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours…………..gene

    #801578
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Spirit is intellect is not found in scripture is it?

    #801584
    Ed J
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    Hi Nick,

    Our intellect is our mind, and our mind is referenced.
    Our mind and our spirit are two different things,
    therefore our intellect cannot be our spirit.

    But of course Gene is free to believe whatever he wants.
    Oh wait a minute, Gene does not have a “Free Will”,
    maybe he is not free to choose what he believes.

    🙂

    ________________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #801651
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    EDj……Right my will is being driven and I am being taught ( intellegently) by the spirit of Living God that abides “IN” me. Nor did my will chose God, He chose me. Just as Jesus did not choose him either, nor John the Baptist, nor the prophets of old, God the Father is Sovern in “ALL” things, not just thing you “will” him to be. All FREEWILLER are simply, I GODS, They don’t need a GOD, they are GODS unto themselves, by their “SO-CALLED ” free will’s.

    peace and love to you and yours……………gene

    #801654
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Then when will you offer the teachings of God?

    Spirit is intellect is not from God.

    #801746
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…..I said the spirit gives us Their intellects, from God or from man or Angels, or Devils or demons. JESUS said clearly the “WORDS” he was telling us WERE SPIRIT, now what is the meaning of “WORD” it means “INTELLEGENT UTTERANCE” now try to let that sink into your hard head. AND of course the Written word does not contain intellect, because that word was not used in the English language till the 1600’s. Nor was the word SPIRIT used till the 1300’s so are we also to assume that there are no such thing as a SPIRIT in our bibles, because it was added in the 1300’s.

    Anyone who does not believe spirits give us their intellects is just ignorant of what scriptures means and say. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………….gene

    #801747
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Should we accept your teachings because you believe them if they are not written?

    #801761
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick……if what I say meets what scriptures are impling why not believe it” ?
    You believe there are SPIRITS and yet no actual original scripture uses that word until it was added in the 1300’s. So how is that ok and the use of the word INTELLEGENT is not?

    peace and love to you and yours…………….gene

    #801775
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    What you see as implied will not find agreement with others.

    So you make yourself a god.

    #801777
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    What are you replying to?

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