Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach?

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  • #819954
    Proclaimer
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    @sonofgod

    Some people like to link Jesus as a man, the son of God to being a “mere man”

    However, man was not designed to be mere, he was designed to have dominion over the earth.

    But mere man compared to God right?

    #820040
    NickHassan
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    Hi,

    Jesus of Nazareth is a human vessel just like us and conceived just as we were.

    We can follow him into his anointing and unto eternal life.

    #821955
    NickHassan
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    Hi,

    John 1.4

    IN HIM was life; and that life was the light of men.

    1 Jn 1.2

    (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father and was manfested unto us)

    Rom 8.2

    For the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

     

    The Spirit of life.

    The Spirit that enlightens men.

     

    And the Spirit spoke through Jesus Christ.

    ”I am the resurrection and the life”Jn 11

    ”I am the light of the world” Jn 6

     

    #821960
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick….indeed it was the Father speaking through his spirit in JESUS TO US ALL. JESUS SAID CLEARLY “THE WORDS I AM TELLING YOU ARE NOT MY WORDS BUT THE WORDS OF HIM WHO SENT ME”. The word who is God, came into the flesh man JESUS at his baptizm by JOHN the baptist, and spoke to us through the mouth of Jesus.

    You have it right brother.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #821965
    NickHassan
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    Hi Gene,

    Eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil gave man insight, conscience and a sense of morality.

    Rebellion and idolatry robbed him of the closeness with the Source of the ability to behave well.

    Sin standing at the door became sin in the flesh and the whole world lies in wickedness.

    #821972
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick…..I agree brother.

    Peace and love to you and yours. .. ..gene

    #821976
    Ed J
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    Hi Gene,

    News brief…

    Jesus fulfilled all 613 commandments before his baptism

    …how do you account for this?

    #821979
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    By grace we have been saved.

    His bread was the word. He drew near to God.

    His  faithful Father God was with him, encouraging and disciplining him.

    #821981
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    God sent His Son in the likeness of sinful flesh.Rom 8.3

    To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me on my throne, even as I overcame, and am set down with my Father in His throne. Rev 3.21

     

    #821983
    GeneBalthrop
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    Edj….”the LORD BLESSED HIM AND (KEPT), HIM” much like the LORD BLESSED AND KEPT JOD. Even to the point of calling him “PERFECT” DON’T YOU THINK THE LORD COULD DO THE SAME TO JESUS, AFTER ALL JESUS HAD A PURPOSE TO FULFILL, RIGHT? EDJ, “all things are possible with God right?

    QUESTION IS, why do you not believe Jesus, WHO SAID ABOUT SIXTY TIMES HE WAS A SON OF MAN? Scripture says God is not a man that he should lie, nor a son of man that he should repent”. Jesus was a son of man, not a God of any kind.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #822006
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    Do you think that fulfilling all the commandments was impossible for an ordinary man?

    Did you doubt the plan of God was feasible?

    #822030
    Ed J
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    Hi Ed,

    Do you think that fulfilling all the commandments was impossible for an ordinary man?

    Yes

    #822031
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    You think that our God could not help a man fulfill the law?

    Do you think the law was an unfair requirement made by God?

     

     

     

     

    #822032
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    Paul was set apart from his mother’s womb and called by God’s grace.

    Gal1.15

    Do you think Jesus was more like John being filled with the Holy Spirit while yet in his mother’s womb?

    Lk 1.15

    Any Scriptures if so?

    #822033
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    Of course John was already alive in his own spirit when he received the Holy Spirit.

    But you think the Spirit of Christ is the human spirit of the man Jesus?

     

    #822039
    Ed J
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    Hi Ed,

    But you think the Spirit of Christ is the human spirit of the man Jesus?

    No Nick, Micah 5:2 clearly says the Spirit of Christ came from eternity to Bethlehem

    #822043
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    It is unfortunate that you cannot find any witnesses to your personal interpretation of Micah 5.2.

    #822051
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Micah 5.2

    But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, too little to be among the clans of Judah,

    from you one will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel.

    His goings forth are from long ago, from the days of eternity.

    Heb 13.8

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

     

    Whose goings forth are from eternity?

    The Spirit’s.

    Who is going forth as a vessel from Bethlehem for the rule of God?

    Jesus bar Joseph.

    Who is the Ruler led by the Spirit of God?

    Jesus Christ.

     

    #822155
    NickHassan
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    Hi Jodi,

    We know the words of the prophets came from God.

    But you think the words of the Son of God are from pagan superstition?

     

    Perhaps I misunderstood you.

     

    #822912
    Ed J
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    Hi Ed,

    You think that our God could not help a man fulfill the law?

    Yes Nick,

    At Pentecost he gives us the HolSpirit – enabling us to fulfill the law.

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    God bless
    Ed J

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