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- August 6, 2015 at 8:51 pm#801845NickHassanParticipant
Hi ED,
Again from ACTS were there any times when those who wanted to be saved were not offered water baptism?
Do you think Paul was deceived and you would have served God better?
Perhaps the jailer and his family were ill advised?
August 6, 2015 at 8:53 pm#801846NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Do you believe the book of Acts is a handbook written to show us how the anointed men obeyed God?
Did God later change his mind and show you different things?
August 6, 2015 at 8:56 pm#801847NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
I am surprised you prefer to find spiritual answers from outside of scripture
August 6, 2015 at 9:09 pm#801848NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
Acts 19 teaches us that truth requires that we be baptised in the name of Jesus and the baptism of John was insufficient.
Then the Holy Spirit can be given and this is shown by signs.
August 6, 2015 at 9:56 pm#801851terrariccaParticipantYou mean like Cornelius right Nick?
August 6, 2015 at 9:58 pm#801852terrariccaParticipantAre you Nick doing miracles ?or speaking in tongues?
August 6, 2015 at 10:08 pm#801853MiiaParticipantEd,
I’m unsure which denomination I was baptized in. Could have been Apostolic Lutheran or Baptist. I was 15 and lived with a Christian foster family. We attended church each Sunday. I clearly remember the moment of baptism. I was baptized alongside my foster brothers and sisters and other youth. I understood what I was doing as it was explained to us many weeks beforehand. Whether they used Jesus name or ‘Father Son Holy Spirit’ I’m unsure, but I don’t feel it matters. I did not receive God’s Holy Spirit until decades later in my late thirty’s, and receiving the Holy Spirit was the most amazing experience ever.If I had not been baptized and wanted to be, I would most likely look for a church willing to baptize me without commitment to their denomination. Afterward, I would no doubt stop going. Alternatively, if I knew another non-church attending Christian I would ask them to baptize me if I felt led to. Obeying God’s command is the answer, and if the Spirit of God is guiding, then the right doors will open.
I don’t know what your motives are in asking……….. but if your motives are right, then I hope that helps.
August 6, 2015 at 10:17 pm#801854Ed JParticipantHi Miia,
Thank you! Yes, you have given me
precisely the kind of response
that answers my question!Now if Nick would only be so gracious 🙂
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God bless
Ed JAugust 7, 2015 at 3:27 am#801856GeneBalthropParticipantEDj…..I believe you first become aware of your state of being and become convicted of the need to be forgiven and a desire for help from God to put sin out of your life. If you desire forgiveness you are in a repentant state, and coming to know that it is only the blood of Jesus Christ that will cause God to forgive you of your sins, you then become willing to commit to what ever is required , and baptism is a open show to all the world and an appeal to God The Father for your forgiveness to take place, but the recipe ingredients of the Holy Spirit, I believe takes the laying on of hands, but scripture does show that some had received the spirit before they were baptized. It seem that both things (baptism and receiving of the Holy Spirit) are needed. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………gene
August 7, 2015 at 3:36 am#801857terrariccaParticipanthi all
do we approach God by showing to all what we do ?
Lk 18:9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable:
Lk 18:10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
Lk 18:11 The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector.
Lk 18:12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
Lk 18:13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
Lk 18:14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”the baptism of the heart is what counts for it is the soul that is saved not the flesh ,and no one can see the soul only the action of it but God sees it
August 7, 2015 at 4:28 am#801858GeneBalthropParticipantTerricca……Good post, while I differ with the soul part, I do agree with those scriptures you posted brother.
My Dad used to tell me, when we point our fingers at someone , we have three fingers pointing back at us.
We are also told “WHAT DOES REQUIRE OF YOU “O” MAN?, BUT TO DO JUSTLY AND LOVE MERCY, AND WALK HUMBLY WITH YOUR GOD”.
The accusors spirit is from pride, and pride goes before a fall.
peace and love to you and yours…………..gene
August 7, 2015 at 7:08 am#801866NickHassanParticipantHi,
So the answer to the question posed?
Seek the truth . It is found in scripture
“Thy word is truth”
August 7, 2015 at 9:34 am#801871NickHassanParticipantHi,
All must repent or they will likewise perish.
It is repentance that is not understood.
All previous beliefs and commitments must be submitted to the Lord for him to take away or to leave with us.
Simon Magus was a magician who wanted the power of God to increase his wealth and prestige.
The eye of the needle did not allow the passage of a loaded camel
August 7, 2015 at 11:30 am#801872NickHassanParticipantHi,
An interesting verse in mk 9.38 where Jesus did not forbid those not in his group from casting out demons in his name.
Does it mean unbelievers can baptise in his name too?
August 7, 2015 at 1:51 pm#801875NickHassanParticipantHi,
1Peter 3.20f
” ..in which a few , that is eight persons. were brought safely through the water. And corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh but and appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ”
The water which killed a generation but upon which an ark provided safety now can be the way of appealing to God for forgiveness, a clean conscience.
August 8, 2015 at 2:57 am#801891GeneBalthropParticipantTo all…..True repentance is given you by God. No one will repent on their own, God gives sorrow which brings repentance. “Godly sorrow works repentance, not to be repented of” and again “for you are sorrowed unto rightiousness”.
peace and love to you all………….gene
August 8, 2015 at 9:51 am#801900Ed JParticipantHi Ed,
I am surprised you prefer to find spiritual answers from outside of scripture
Hi Nick,
God sent Peter to Cornelius’s house, are you suggesting that spiritual
answers cannot come from those who are part of the body of Christ?August 8, 2015 at 10:56 am#801904NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
What is it that you need to know and that scripture cannot teach you?
August 8, 2015 at 3:06 pm#801906terrariccaParticipanthi Nick
Hi,
An interesting verse in mk 9.38 where Jesus did not forbid those not in his group from casting out demons in his name.
Does it mean unbelievers can baptise in his name too?
where those people Jews or Gentiles ? one more question ;do you think those that did that believed in Jesus or not ?
you did not answer my past question ;do you do miracle and speak in tongues ?
August 8, 2015 at 3:09 pm#801907terrariccaParticipantNick
Hi,
1Peter 3.20f
” ..in which a few , that is eight persons. were brought safely through the water. And corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh but and appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ”
The water which killed a generation but upon which an ark provided safety now can be the way of appealing to God for forgiveness, a clean conscience.
could you walk me through the process how to get a good conscience ?
and also make sure that it is within God and Jesus ,not the world of religion
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