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- August 6, 2015 at 8:53 pm#801846
NickHassan
ParticipantHi Ed,
Do you believe the book of Acts is a handbook written to show us how the anointed men obeyed God?
Did God later change his mind and show you different things?
August 6, 2015 at 8:56 pm#801847NickHassan
ParticipantHi Ed,
I am surprised you prefer to find spiritual answers from outside of scripture
August 6, 2015 at 9:09 pm#801848NickHassan
ParticipantHi ED,
Acts 19 teaches us that truth requires that we be baptised in the name of Jesus and the baptism of John was insufficient.
Then the Holy Spirit can be given and this is shown by signs.
August 6, 2015 at 9:56 pm#801851terraricca
ParticipantYou mean like Cornelius right Nick?
August 6, 2015 at 9:58 pm#801852terraricca
ParticipantAre you Nick doing miracles ?or speaking in tongues?
August 6, 2015 at 10:08 pm#801853Miia
ParticipantEd,
I’m unsure which denomination I was baptized in. Could have been Apostolic Lutheran or Baptist. I was 15 and lived with a Christian foster family. We attended church each Sunday. I clearly remember the moment of baptism. I was baptized alongside my foster brothers and sisters and other youth. I understood what I was doing as it was explained to us many weeks beforehand. Whether they used Jesus name or ‘Father Son Holy Spirit’ I’m unsure, but I don’t feel it matters. I did not receive God’s Holy Spirit until decades later in my late thirty’s, and receiving the Holy Spirit was the most amazing experience ever.If I had not been baptized and wanted to be, I would most likely look for a church willing to baptize me without commitment to their denomination. Afterward, I would no doubt stop going. Alternatively, if I knew another non-church attending Christian I would ask them to baptize me if I felt led to. Obeying God’s command is the answer, and if the Spirit of God is guiding, then the right doors will open.
I don’t know what your motives are in asking……….. but if your motives are right, then I hope that helps.
August 6, 2015 at 10:17 pm#801854Ed J
ParticipantHi Miia,
Thank you! Yes, you have given me
precisely the kind of response
that answers my question!Now if Nick would only be so gracious 🙂
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God bless
Ed JAugust 7, 2015 at 3:27 am#801856GeneBalthrop
ParticipantEDj…..I believe you first become aware of your state of being and become convicted of the need to be forgiven and a desire for help from God to put sin out of your life. If you desire forgiveness you are in a repentant state, and coming to know that it is only the blood of Jesus Christ that will cause God to forgive you of your sins, you then become willing to commit to what ever is required , and baptism is a open show to all the world and an appeal to God The Father for your forgiveness to take place, but the recipe ingredients of the Holy Spirit, I believe takes the laying on of hands, but scripture does show that some had received the spirit before they were baptized. It seem that both things (baptism and receiving of the Holy Spirit) are needed. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………gene
August 7, 2015 at 3:36 am#801857terraricca
Participanthi all
do we approach God by showing to all what we do ?
Lk 18:9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable:
Lk 18:10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
Lk 18:11 The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector.
Lk 18:12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
Lk 18:13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
Lk 18:14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”the baptism of the heart is what counts for it is the soul that is saved not the flesh ,and no one can see the soul only the action of it but God sees it
August 7, 2015 at 4:28 am#801858GeneBalthrop
ParticipantTerricca……Good post, while I differ with the soul part, I do agree with those scriptures you posted brother.
My Dad used to tell me, when we point our fingers at someone , we have three fingers pointing back at us.
We are also told “WHAT DOES REQUIRE OF YOU “O” MAN?, BUT TO DO JUSTLY AND LOVE MERCY, AND WALK HUMBLY WITH YOUR GOD”.
The accusors spirit is from pride, and pride goes before a fall.
peace and love to you and yours…………..gene
August 7, 2015 at 7:08 am#801866NickHassan
ParticipantHi,
So the answer to the question posed?
Seek the truth . It is found in scripture
“Thy word is truth”
August 7, 2015 at 9:34 am#801871NickHassan
ParticipantHi,
All must repent or they will likewise perish.
It is repentance that is not understood.
All previous beliefs and commitments must be submitted to the Lord for him to take away or to leave with us.
Simon Magus was a magician who wanted the power of God to increase his wealth and prestige.
The eye of the needle did not allow the passage of a loaded camel
August 7, 2015 at 11:30 am#801872NickHassan
ParticipantHi,
An interesting verse in mk 9.38 where Jesus did not forbid those not in his group from casting out demons in his name.
Does it mean unbelievers can baptise in his name too?
August 7, 2015 at 1:51 pm#801875NickHassan
ParticipantHi,
1Peter 3.20f
” ..in which a few , that is eight persons. were brought safely through the water. And corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh but and appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ”
The water which killed a generation but upon which an ark provided safety now can be the way of appealing to God for forgiveness, a clean conscience.
August 8, 2015 at 2:57 am#801891GeneBalthrop
ParticipantTo all…..True repentance is given you by God. No one will repent on their own, God gives sorrow which brings repentance. “Godly sorrow works repentance, not to be repented of” and again “for you are sorrowed unto rightiousness”.
peace and love to you all………….gene
August 8, 2015 at 9:51 am#801900Ed J
ParticipantHi Ed,
I am surprised you prefer to find spiritual answers from outside of scripture
Hi Nick,
God sent Peter to Cornelius’s house, are you suggesting that spiritual
answers cannot come from those who are part of the body of Christ?August 8, 2015 at 10:56 am#801904NickHassan
ParticipantHi Ed,
What is it that you need to know and that scripture cannot teach you?
August 8, 2015 at 3:06 pm#801906terraricca
Participanthi Nick
Hi,
An interesting verse in mk 9.38 where Jesus did not forbid those not in his group from casting out demons in his name.
Does it mean unbelievers can baptise in his name too?
where those people Jews or Gentiles ? one more question ;do you think those that did that believed in Jesus or not ?
you did not answer my past question ;do you do miracle and speak in tongues ?
August 8, 2015 at 3:09 pm#801907terraricca
ParticipantNick
Hi,
1Peter 3.20f
” ..in which a few , that is eight persons. were brought safely through the water. And corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh but and appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ”
The water which killed a generation but upon which an ark provided safety now can be the way of appealing to God for forgiveness, a clean conscience.
could you walk me through the process how to get a good conscience ?
and also make sure that it is within God and Jesus ,not the world of religion
August 8, 2015 at 3:17 pm#801909NickHassan
ParticipantHi,
25years ago I had spent some time with a married couple who were searching for the truth and had tried to convince them of the need for baptism in the name of Jesus.
They were sceptical and we went home.
The husband headed off on a trip and his wife stayed at home with her family.
She felt troubled and prayed that God would give her a sign. She specifically prayed that if it was true that they should be baptised that God would send her husband back home. Thirty minutes later he walked in and said he had a strong feeling he needed to go back home.
They sought water baptism asap.
We have seen very little of them since as they shifted away.
2 weeks ago the wife died after a short illness.
I was reminded of this today when I met the man’s brother.
Nobody knows when we will be called but we must be ready.
I
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