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  • #332175
    terraricca
    Participant

    edj

    Quote
    Claim #1.
    “I [The LORD JEHOVAH] that maketh all things;
    that stretcheth forth the heavens alone;
    that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself:”  (Isa 44:24)

    “The worlds were framed by “The Word” of God, so that things
    which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”  (Heb 11:3)

    Claim #2.
    “Ye are even my witnesses.
    Is there 'a God' beside me? yea,
    there is 'no God'; I know not any.”  (Isa 44:8)

    “I [The LORD JEHOVAH], and there is none else,
    there is no God beside me:”  (Isaiah 45:5)

    item1)may i ask you what is it that you understand from that scripture ???
          a) do you think God his a man and so he stretches his harms around things or old them and pull them apart ??? what do really thing it means ???
           b) now can WORLDS BEEN “FRAMED ” BY WORDS ???  OF CAUSE NOT ; THE WORD ” HIS THE NAME OF HE WHO HIS USED TO DO ALL CREATION ;
    IT SEEMS TO THAT “”    “The worlds were framed by “”” THE WORD “” HIS BY IT SELF WELL SAID ;JUST AS I WOULD SAY IT ;EDJ FRAME MY COMPUTER THAT MAKE ALL MY THINGS WORK IN IT ::::OR MY COMPUTER WAS FRAMED (SETUP) BY EDJ ;;;WHAT HIS WRONG WITH THIS ???? NOTHING TO ME  ;;did Edj create the computer ??? NO  

    item 2) a)wen God says that the ones that see his miracles they are now becoming his witnesses ,so ? is that not true ???

          b)God declares his supremacy over all other gods ,this his an accepted fact;;;
          C) again and again God almighty claims that their his no other like him;this is an undisputed claim ;is it not ???

    BUT ANY OF THOSE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT AGAINST WHAT MIKE'S CLAIM IS , ON THE CONTRARY THEY SUPPORT HIS CLAIM,IF WE LOOK DEEP ENOUGH IN TO IT

    #332180
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 09 2013,05:01)
    Ed J,

    Yahweh established the children of Israel as his children, which is to say gods.  Scripture does not reserve the word “god” for Yahweh alone; though many in our culture have been taught to do.  

    The children of Israel are still of the kind human; even though Yahweh calls them gods.

    Yahweh is the only god worthy of worship as he cannot be tempted, much less do evil. He is one of a kind, the a and the z, the first and the last. He is the source of all righteousness and all that is righteous.


    Hi Kerwin,

    You are comparing 'apples' and 'oranges', “The Bible” wasn't written
    in English, so the word “GOD” is not in the “Hebrew nor is it in the Greek either.
    You mean the word  אלהים (ĔL-ō-Hêêm), which is  SOMETIMES  translated as “God”, right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332182
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2013,05:37)
    edj

    Quote
    Claim #1.
    “I [The LORD JEHOVAH] that maketh all things;
    that stretcheth forth the heavens alone;
    that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself:”  (Isa 44:24)

    “The worlds were framed by “The Word” of God, so that things
    which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”  (Heb 11:3)

    Claim #2.
    “Ye are even my witnesses.
    Is there 'a God' beside me? yea,
    there is 'no God'; I know not any.”  (Isa 44:8)

    “I [The LORD JEHOVAH], and there is none else,
    there is no God beside me:”  (Isaiah 45:5)

    item1)may i ask you what is it that you understand from that scripture ???
          a) do you think God his a man and so he stretches his harms around things or old them and pull them apart ??? what do really thing it means ???
           b) now can WORLDS BEEN “FRAMED ” BY WORDS ???  OF CAUSE NOT ; THE WORD ” HIS THE NAME OF HE WHO HIS USED TO DO ALL CREATION ;
    IT SEEMS TO THAT “”    “The worlds were framed by “”” THE WORD “” HIS BY IT SELF WELL SAID ;JUST AS I WOULD SAY IT ;EDJ FRAME MY COMPUTER THAT MAKE ALL MY THINGS WORK IN IT ::::OR MY COMPUTER WAS FRAMED (SETUP) BY EDJ ;;;WHAT HIS WRONG WITH THIS ???? NOTHING TO ME  ;;did Edj create the computer ??? NO  

    item 2) a)wen God says that the ones that see his miracles they are now becoming his witnesses ,so ? is that not true ???

          b)God declares his supremacy over all other gods ,this his an accepted fact;;;
          C) again and again God almighty claims that their his no other like him;this is an undisputed claim ;is it not ???

    BUT ANY OF THOSE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT AGAINST WHAT MIKE'S CLAIM IS , ON THE CONTRARY THEY SUPPORT HIS CLAIM,IF WE LOOK DEEP ENOUGH IN TO IT


    Hi Pierre,

    “it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.”  (Acts 26:14)
    And I'm sure there are many here that consider me to be one.

    Please when asking questions, try to limit them to only one per post.
    If you ask more than one question, I might not address
    the question you are most concerned with.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332183
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Pierre,

    “Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by “the word” of God,
     so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” (Heb 11:3)

    framed: From kata and a derivative of artios; to complete thoroughly, i.e.
                      Repair (literally or figuratively) or adjust — fit, frame, mend,
                      (make) perfect(-ly join together), prepare, restore.

    “Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
     And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;  and
     he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.”  (Gen 2:1-2)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332185
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,02:14)
    Hi Pierre,

    “Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by “the word” of God,
     so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” (Heb 11:3)

    framed: From kata and a derivative of artios; to complete thoroughly, i.e.
                      Repair (literally or figuratively) or adjust — fit, frame, mend,
                      (make) perfect(-ly join together), prepare, restore.

    “Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
     And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;  and
     he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.”  (Gen 2:1-2)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    I do not understand what you try to say to me ,it is very vague ,

    so be more specific .

    #332186
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,01:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2013,05:37)
    edj

    Quote
    Claim #1.
    “I [The LORD JEHOVAH] that maketh all things;
    that stretcheth forth the heavens alone;
    that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself:”  (Isa 44:24)

    “The worlds were framed by “The Word” of God, so that things
    which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”  (Heb 11:3)

    Claim #2.
    “Ye are even my witnesses.
    Is there 'a God' beside me? yea,
    there is 'no God'; I know not any.”  (Isa 44:8)

    “I [The LORD JEHOVAH], and there is none else,
    there is no God beside me:”  (Isaiah 45:5)

    item1)may i ask you what is it that you understand from that scripture ???
          a) do you think God his a man and so he stretches his harms around things or old them and pull them apart ??? what do really thing it means ???
           b) now can WORLDS BEEN “FRAMED ” BY WORDS ???  OF CAUSE NOT ; THE WORD ” HIS THE NAME OF HE WHO HIS USED TO DO ALL CREATION ;
    IT SEEMS TO THAT “”    “The worlds were framed by “”” THE WORD “” HIS BY IT SELF WELL SAID ;JUST AS I WOULD SAY IT ;EDJ FRAME MY COMPUTER THAT MAKE ALL MY THINGS WORK IN IT ::::OR MY COMPUTER WAS FRAMED (SETUP) BY EDJ ;;;WHAT HIS WRONG WITH THIS ???? NOTHING TO ME  ;;did Edj create the computer ??? NO  

    item 2) a)wen God says that the ones that see his miracles they are now becoming his witnesses ,so ? is that not true ???

          b)God declares his supremacy over all other gods ,this his an accepted fact;;;
          C) again and again God almighty claims that their his no other like him;this is an undisputed claim ;is it not ???

    BUT ANY OF THOSE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT AGAINST WHAT MIKE'S CLAIM IS , ON THE CONTRARY THEY SUPPORT HIS CLAIM,IF WE LOOK DEEP ENOUGH IN TO IT


    Hi Pierre,

    “it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.”  (Acts 26:14)
    And I'm sure there are many here that consider me to be one.

    Please when asking questions, try to limit them to only one per post.
    If you ask more than one question, I might not address
    the question you are most concerned with.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    you quoted scriptures that contain deep understanding ,so I want to make sure you understand what i am saying ,

    you do not have to answer any or all of the questions or answer them one by one that ok for me ,

    sorry to have created an great inconvenience to your person , :(

    #332187
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,01:47)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 09 2013,05:01)
    Ed J,

    Yahweh established the children of Israel as his children, which is to say gods.  Scripture does not reserve the word “god” for Yahweh alone; though many in our culture have been taught to do.  

    The children of Israel are still of the kind human; even though Yahweh calls them gods.

    Yahweh is the only god worthy of worship as he cannot be tempted, much less do evil. He is one of a kind, the a and the z, the first and the last. He is the source of all righteousness and all that is righteous.


    Hi Kerwin,

    You are comparing 'apples' and 'oranges', “The Bible” wasn't written
    in English, so the word “GOD” is not in the “Hebrew nor is it in the Greek either.
    You mean the word  אלהים (ĔL-ō-Hêêm), which is  SOMETIMES  translated as “God”, right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    you are changing the topic .

    #332196
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2013,08:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,02:14)
    Hi Pierre,

    “Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by “the word” of God,
     so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” (Heb 11:3)

    framed: From kata and a derivative of artios; to complete thoroughly, i.e.
                      Repair (literally or figuratively) or adjust — fit, frame, mend,
                      (make) perfect(-ly join together), prepare, restore.

    “Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
     And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;  and
     he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.”  (Gen 2:1-2)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    I do not understand what you try to say to me ,it is very vague ,

    so be more specific .


    Hi Pierre,

    It means: that “God alone” created everything without Jesus' help.
    (Through) Jesus dying on the cross was his participation.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332198
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terricca………the is no deep undertanding about it , those scriptures are as straight forward as you can Get. The only ones who try desperately to make them Appear that way are “Mystery Religious” false teachers Why can't you just bring yourself to believe what is straight forward written? , No “SO-CALLED—– deep understanding needed [/B, face it Pierre, Your just trying to devert the truth. This is the exact reason these forms can't ever get to any soild conclusions here. ED J has posted it right its that simple. IMO

    peace and lvoe to you and yours………………………………….gene

    #332200
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Some things may be hard to glean from Scripture, but this isn't one of them.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332205
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 09 2013,05:01)
    the difference between God almighty and other gods ,first their are two kind of other gods ;

    1) the gods that God almighty establish in that position ,like Moses ,Men,Christ ,

    2) any other gods that God almighty DID NOT SEND ,


    T,

    Sounds good! what is Gene and Ed's input on the matter?[/quote]
    Hi Kerwin,

    God didn't establish Moses nor Jesus as other gods.
    People (in the days of old) viewing those other than JEHOVAH
    as gods are clearly mistaken now aren't they
    ?  (<– Please answer)[/quote]

    To all……….God said that Moses would be in the  place of God , to Aron the High Preist, He never said he was a God of any kind. Another words,  God would instruct Moses and Moses would instruct Aron and Aron the People and not Aron or Moses were any kind of Gods ever. God was reaching the people through them is all by his words and Powers.

    When Jesus said know you not you are Gods he was quoting the book of Paslms and speaking to those in charge of administrating God Judgements to the people as  God was addressing the Leaders of Israel who were susposed to have adminsitered His Judjement and  Words  to the people , they were placed in that Position by God.

    So in that sense they belonged to God and were representing Him. So that is why it is written I said you are God's. It applies to the same thing reguarding Moses. Jesus was talking to those in authority and responsible for representing God to the people, “the Pharasiees”,  But notice he never said he or they were Gods at all now did He?  He said this “if they called them Gods (as in Posesion) or beloning to him,  whom the words of God came”.   That is a long way from saying they were God's themselves.

    NO he said,  and why do you accuse me of Blastfhemy becasue i say i am a “Son” of God,  but he never said he was a God , why is that if what some think is right , why would he Just not have said “yes”, I am a God, or a Little god as in the case of Mike and T8.   But he did not say that now did he?  You can Not find one place where Jesus ever said He was a God of anykind  

    Another Point is if the WORD of GOD were to come to anyone God would be Present in the Words, think about it Brother Kerwin. God and His words are ONE. All who have the words of God “IN” them have God presence in them by vertue of His words.

    God is a Sprit, Man is Not a Spirit and Man is Not a God either in my opinion Brother.  When people are speaking Gods words God is Present in those words . So they who deliever God Word can be considered to be in God's place as  Moses and the Leaders of Israel were susposed to be.  But never a God ever.

    None this can remove what the LORD our God Said “he looked for others Gods and found None”, nor what Jesus Said for thou art the “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, then all other so-called gods are false gods if there is “ONLY” “ONE” TRUE GOD IMO

    peace and love to you all……………………………….gene

    #332206
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,01:47)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 09 2013,05:01)
    Ed J,

    Yahweh established the children of Israel as his children, which is to say gods.  Scripture does not reserve the word “god” for Yahweh alone; though many in our culture have been taught to do.  

    The children of Israel are still of the kind human; even though Yahweh calls them gods.

    Yahweh is the only god worthy of worship as he cannot be tempted, much less do evil. He is one of a kind, the a and the z, the first and the last. He is the source of all righteousness and all that is righteous.


    Hi Kerwin,

    You are comparing 'apples' and 'oranges', “The Bible” wasn't written
    in English, so the word “GOD” is not in the “Hebrew nor is it in the Greek either.
    You mean the word  אלהים (ĔL-ō-Hêêm), which is  SOMETIMES  translated as “God”, right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed J,

    The KJV also does it..

    Psalm 82:6
    King James Version (KJV)

    6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

    #332207
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,05:13)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2013,08:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,02:14)
    Hi Pierre,

    “Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by “the word” of God,
     so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” (Heb 11:3)

    framed: From kata and a derivative of artios; to complete thoroughly, i.e.
                      Repair (literally or figuratively) or adjust — fit, frame, mend,
                      (make) perfect(-ly join together), prepare, restore.

    “Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
     And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;  and
     he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.”  (Gen 2:1-2)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    I do not understand what you try to say to me ,it is very vague ,

    so be more specific .


    Hi Pierre,

    It means: that “God alone” created everything without Jesus' help.
    (Through) Jesus dying on the cross was his participation.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Quote
    It means: that “God alone” created everything without Jesus' help.
    (Through) Jesus dying on the cross was his participation.

    it is obvious from this comment of yours ,you do nt believe in scriptures at all ,

    Col 1:15 He(Christ) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He(Christ) is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

    in verse 17 IT SAYS HE (CHRIST) IS BEFORE ALL THINGS ;;;RIGHT IS THAT LEFT SOMETHING OUT ????

    HO, AND SEE ALL THINGS IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH ;
    SO ACCORDING TO YOU CHRIST WAS ONLY BORN 2000 YEARS AGO ,BUT THEN HOW COULD HE BE THE FIRST OF CREATION ??? BEFORE ALL THINGS ????

    ARE YOU TESTING ME ??? THIS IS SO SIMPLE A DUMMY CAN ANSWER THAT .

    DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE FOLLOWING SCRIPTURE MEANS ???
    Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,

    ALL THE FULLNESS OF WHAT ??OF EVERYTHING

    Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
    Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

    HIS DEAD AND RESURRECTION IS ONLY ONE MORE THING INCLUDED IN “”ALL THINGS “”” AND THE FULLNESS”””

    #332208
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,02:14)
    Hi Pierre,

    “Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by “the word” of God,
     so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” (Heb 11:3)

    framed: From kata and a derivative of artios; to complete thoroughly, i.e.
                      Repair (literally or figuratively) or adjust — fit, frame, mend,
                      (make) perfect(-ly join together), prepare, restore.

    “Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
     And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;  and
     he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.”  (Gen 2:1-2)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ

    YOUR ANSWER LAY IN THIS SCRIPTURE;

    Jn 1:2 He(JESUS) was with God in the beginning.
    Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
    Jn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
    Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

    #332209
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 09 2013,06:04)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 09 2013,05:01)
    the difference between God almighty and other gods ,first their are two kind of other gods ;

    1) the gods that God almighty establish in that position ,like Moses ,Men,Christ ,

    2) any other gods that God almighty DID NOT SEND ,


    T,

    Sounds good! what is Gene and Ed's input on the matter?[/quote]
    Hi Kerwin,

    God didn't establish Moses nor Jesus as other gods.
    People (in the days of old) viewing those other than JEHOVAH
    as gods are clearly mistaken now aren't they
    ?  (<– Please answer)[/quote]
    To all……….God said that Moses would be in the  place of God , to Aron the High Preist, He never said he was a God of any kind. Another word God would instruct Moses and Moses would instruct Aron and Aron the People and not Aron or Moses were any kind of Gods ever.

    When Jesus said no you not you are Gods he was quoting the book of Paslms, Where God was addressing the Leaders of Israel who were susposed to have adminsitered His Judjement and  Words  to the people , they were placed in that Position by God , So in that sense they belonged to God and were representing Him. So that is why it is written I said you are God's. It applies to the same thing reguarding Moses. Jesus was talking to those in athority and responsible of representing God to the people, the Pharasiees,  But notice he never said he or they were Gods at all now did He?

    NO he said,  and why do you accuse me of Blastfhemy becasue i say i am a “Son” of God,  but he never said he was a God , why is that if what some think is right , why would he Just not have said “yes”, I am a God,  But he did not say that now did he?  You can Not find one place where Jesus ever said He was a God of anykind  

    Another Point is if the WORD of GOD were to come to anyone God would be Present in the Words, think about it Brother Kerwin. God and His words are ONE. All who have the words of God “IN” them have God presence in them by vertue of His words. God is a Sprit, Man is Not a Spirit and Man is Not a God either in my opinion Brother.  When people are speaking Gods words God is Present in those words . So they who deliever God Word can be considered to be in God place  as  Moses and the Leaders of Israel were susposed to be.

    But none this can remove what the LORD our God Said “he looked for others Gods and found None”, nor what Jesus Said for thou art the “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, then all other so-called gods are false gods if there is “ONLY” ONE TRUE GOD>IMO

    peace and love to you all and yours………………………….gene


    g

    it is difficult to answer you because you do not show scriptures and what you say is not in scriptures ,so show and quote the scripture ,and give less corrupted comments ,

    thanks

    #332210
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 09 2013,05:23)
    Terricca………the is no deep undertanding about it , those scriptures are as straight forward as you can Get. The only ones who try desperately to make them Appear that way are “Mystery Religious” false teachers Why can't you just bring yourself to believe what is straight forward written? , No “SO-CALLED—– deep understanding needed [/B, face it Pierre, Your just trying to devert the truth. This is the exact reason these forms can't ever get to any soild conclusions here. ED J has posted it right its that simple. IMO

    peace and lvoe to you and yours………………………………….gene


    G

    again you do not read my comment and so answer anything expecting that you answered it in a smart way ,sorry but you fail next time read the comment first then answered it ,

    you do not make sense in your comment ,

    #332211
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 09 2013,11:04)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 09 2013,05:01)
    the difference between God almighty and other gods ,first their are two kind of other gods ;

    1) the gods that God almighty establish in that position ,like Moses ,Men,Christ ,

    2) any other gods that God almighty DID NOT SEND ,


    T,

    Sounds good! what is Gene and Ed's input on the matter?[/quote]
    Hi Kerwin,

    God didn't establish Moses nor Jesus as other gods.
    People (in the days of old) viewing those other than JEHOVAH
    as gods are clearly mistaken now aren't they
    ?  (<– Please answer)[/quote]

    To all……….God said that Moses would be in the  place of God , to Aron the High Preist, He never said he was a God of any kind. Another words,  God would instruct Moses and Moses would instruct Aron and Aron the People and not Aron or Moses were any kind of Gods ever. God was reaching the people through them is all by his words and Powers.

    When Jesus said know you not you are Gods he was quoting the book of Paslms and speaking to those in charge of administrating God Judgements to the people as  God was addressing the Leaders of Israel who were susposed to have adminsitered His Judjement and  Words  to the people , they were placed in that Position by God.

    So in that sense they belonged to God and were representing Him. So that is why it is written I said you are God's. It applies to the same thing reguarding Moses. Jesus was talking to those in authority and responsible for representing God to the people, “the Pharasiees”,  But notice he never said he or they were Gods at all now did He?  He said this “if they called them Gods (as in Posesion) or beloning to him,  whom the words of God came”.   That is a long way from saying they were God's themselves.

    NO he said,  and why do you accuse me of Blastfhemy becasue i say i am a “Son” of God,  but he never said he was a God , why is that if what some think is right , why would he Just not have said “yes”, I am a God, or a Little god as in the case of Mike and T8.   But he did not say that now did he?  You can Not find one place where Jesus ever said He was a God of anykind  

    Another Point is if the WORD of GOD were to come to anyone God would be Present in the Words, think about it Brother Kerwin. God and His words are ONE. All who have the words of God “IN” them have God presence in them by vertue of His words.

    God is a Sprit, Man is Not a Spirit and Man is Not a God either in my opinion Brother.  When people are speaking Gods words God is Present in those words . So they who deliever God Word can be considered to be in God's place as  Moses and the Leaders of Israel were susposed to be.  But never a God ever.

    None this can remove what the LORD our God Said “he looked for others Gods and found None”, nor what Jesus Said for thou art the “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, then all other so-called gods are false gods if there is “ONLY” “ONE” TRUE GOD IMO

    peace and love to you all……………………………….gene


    Some how this got out of line so i reposted it again sorry.

    Gene

    #332212
    terraricca
    Participant

    Ed j and Gene

    you guy's are sinking against Gods written word ,

    and Mike still waits for his answers

    #332213
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 09 2013,06:23)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 09 2013,11:04)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 09 2013,05:01)
    the difference between God almighty and other gods ,first their are two kind of other gods ;

    1) the gods that God almighty establish in that position ,like Moses ,Men,Christ ,

    2) any other gods that God almighty DID NOT SEND ,


    T,

    Sounds good! what is Gene and Ed's input on the matter?


    Hi Kerwin,

    God didn't establish Moses nor Jesus as other gods.
    People (in the days of old) viewing those other than JEHOVAH
    as gods are clearly mistaken now aren't they
    ?  (<– Please answer)[/quote]

    To all……….God said that Moses would be in the  place of God , to Aron the High Preist, He never said he was a God of any kind. Another words,  God would instruct Moses and Moses would instruct Aron and Aron the People and not Aron or Moses were any kind of Gods ever. God was reaching the people through them is all by his words and Powers.

    When Jesus said know you not you are Gods he was quoting the book of Paslms and speaking to those in charge of administrating God Judgements to the people as  God was addressing the Leaders of Israel who were susposed to have adminsitered His Judjement and  Words  to the people , they were placed in that Position by God.

    So in that sense they belonged to God and were representing Him. So that is why it is written I said you are God's. It applies to the same thing reguarding Moses. Jesus was talking to those in authority and responsible for representing God to the people, “the Pharasiees”,  But notice he never said he or they were Gods at all now did He?  He said this “if they called them Gods (as in Posesion) or beloning to him,  whom the words of God came”.   That is a long way from saying they were God's themselves.

    NO he said,  and why do you accuse me of Blastfhemy becasue i say i am a “Son” of God,  but he never said he was a God , why is that if what some think is right , why would he Just not have said “yes”, I am a God, or a Little god as in the case of Mike and T8.   But he did not say that now did he?  You can Not find one place where Jesus ever said He was a God of anykind  

    Another Point is if the WORD of GOD were to come to anyone God would be Present in the Words, think about it Brother Kerwin. God and His words are ONE. All who have the words of God “IN” them have God presence in them by vertue of His words.

    God is a Sprit, Man is Not a Spirit and Man is Not a God either in my opinion Brother.  When people are speaking Gods words God is Present in those words . So they who deliever God Word can be considered to be in God's place as  Moses and the Leaders of Israel were susposed to be.  But never a God ever.

    None this can remove what the LORD our God Said “he looked for others Gods and found None”, nor what Jesus Said for thou art the “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, then all other so-called gods are false gods if there is “ONLY” “ONE” TRUE GOD IMO

    peace and love to you all……………………………….gene[/quote]
    Some how this got out of line so i reposted it again sorry.

    Gene


    Gene

    all your comment does not change what I have said ,and show the scriptures ,that you do not want no one to see ,this is why you rather comment a scripture in this way you can change what does not suit you ,

    this is not the way to God or Christ and certainly not to the truth

    well its your choice

    #332236
    kerwin
    Participant

    Gene,

    God states that he called the children of Israel gods, and his children.  He did just that in the Law, though not explicitly.  There is no reason to argue against the claim that Scripture calls those who are not Yawheh, god.

    Calling Jesus god or for that matter God means very little except he is a child of Yahveh's Spirit.

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