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    2besee
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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 26 2013,03:07)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 25 2013,21:04)
    But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I have said to you.
    John 14:26

    18  I will not leave you Comfortless: I will come to you.
    John 14:18

    Please, someone with some wisdom help me to solve this.
    I can't piece it together.


    Hi 2Besee,

    The answer is found in John 14:23:

    “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
     and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.

    “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him
     shall he (in spirit form) appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”  (Heb 9:28)

    Quote
    Isaiah 64:4-5 “For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear,
    neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
    Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways:”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed.

    Just out of curiosity how do you pronunce the name Iēsous Ἰησοῦς? The Greek.

    —————-

    I looked into something.
    John 14:23…

    Click on Here and scroll down to the word 2064 [e]eleusomethaἐλευσόμεθαwe will come and then click on the strongs number for that word 2064, and it does not say 'WE' will come. It just means ' I come/go'

    So,

    Answered Jesus and said to him — If anyone love me — the word of me he will keep — and the Father of me will love him — and to him (I?) come — and an abode with him will make.

    Now, that would fit with the Holy Spirit being sent!!

    #339511
    2besee
    Participant

    Pause and reflect on that, all. I will get back to the other post later,

    #339516
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,08:29)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 26 2013,03:07)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 25 2013,21:04)
    But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I have said to you.
    John 14:26

    18  I will not leave you Comfortless: I will come to you.
    John 14:18

    Please, someone with some wisdom help me to solve this.
    I can't piece it together.


    Hi 2Besee,

    The answer is found in John 14:23:

    “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
     and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.

    “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him
     shall he (in spirit form) appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”  (Heb 9:28)

    Quote
    Isaiah 64:4-5 “For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear,
    neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
    Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways:”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed.

    Just out of curiosity how do you pronunce the name Iēsous Ἰησοῦς? The Greek.

    —————-

    I looked into something.
    John 14:23…

    Click on Here and scroll down to the word 2064 [e]eleusomethaἐλευσόμεθαwe will come and then click on the strongs number for that word 2064, and it does not say 'WE' will come. It just means ' I come/go'

    So,

    Answered Jesus and said to him — If anyone love me — the word of me he will keep — and the Father of me will love him — and to him (I?) come — and an abode with him will make.

    Now, that would fit with the Holy Spirit being sent!!


    Hi 2Besee,

    Paul’s Greek-written manuscripts have the Hebrew name [עושהי] YÄ-shü-ă translated into Greek as [Ιησους] Ē-Ā-Soos.
    Note the similarity in pronunciation and Theomatic values for both Ē-Ā-Soos=74 and Jesus=74. While Theomatics keeps
    mathematical connections in English, it tells nothing of GOD’s name [יה] YÄ being linguistically distanced further and further
    from His Word by re-transcribing a previous translation. Specifically, instead of transcribing the authentic Hebrew Name (יהשוע),
    the King James linguistics instead transcribed the Greek name for Jesus (Ιησους); which is unauthentic because it is a
    “translation of a translation”. [יהשוע] translates directly into “English” as [Joshua=74] and pronounced YÄ-shü-ă.

    Jesus’ authentic name [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă has a direct connection to GOD’s name [יה] in that YÄ is the first part of Jesus’ Hebrew name.
    GOD’s name is not vocalized in the English translation of the name Jesus and therefore misses the precise exactness and direct
    authentic connection to God’s Hebrew name [יה] YÄ. Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means: (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[עשי]=[יהשוע])  
    the salvation of “GOD the Father”. Therefore [יהשוע] “Jesus” name authentically establishes [יהוה] “JEHOVAH” as the Highest Name.
    (Phil. 2:9,11: Wherefore Holy Spirit=151 has highly exalted Jesus=74 giving Him a name which is above every name, to the glory of
    GOD The Father=117.) Neither is there salvation in any other name: for there is no other name given among men (יהשוע), whereby
    we must be saved. (Acts 4:12) People speaking fluent Hebrew know that in essence, [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă means: “YÄ is Savior”.

    The Hebrew word [ישוע] Yəsh-yü-ă merely means ‘He will save’. Distancing [יה]’s salvation from the man Jesus
    is a rejection of YÄ-shoe-ă=74 as Messiah=74. This subtle distinction of [ישוע] Yəsh-yü-ă purposely substituted
    for [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă usually goes unnoticed when heard by a non Hebrew-speaking person; nevertheless, this
    wholly implies a specific denial of Jesus as Lord and Savior. Jesus being found in fashion as a man, humbled himself,
    and became obedient unto death, even His death on the cross [†]. (Phil. 2:8) Along with Jesus, either the phrase
    |יהודיםה לךמ נצריה השועי| or the acronym of it was posted on a plaque and nailed to the Cross=74. This Hebrew
    inscription means |YÄ shü ă of Nazareth the king of the Jews|. YÄ-shü-ă means: “YÄ will save” because
    “YÄ is YHVH”=117 and “YHVH is GOD”=117. Which means: GOD the Father is Christ’s Savior (Gal. 1:1)
    and ours (1Cor. 6:14). “GOD the Father”=117 “is” “The Savior”=117.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #339522
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,08:29)
    Hi Ed.

    —————-
    I looked into something.
    John 14:23…

    Click on Here and scroll down to the word 2064 [e]eleusomethaἐλευσόμεθαwe will come and then click on the strongs number for that word 2064, and it does not say 'WE' will come. It just means ' I come/go'

    So,

    Answered Jesus and said to him — If anyone love me — the word of me he will keep — and the Father of me will love him — and to him (I?) come — and an abode with him will make.

    Now, that would fit with the Holy Spirit being sent!!


    Hi 2Besee,

    “WE” is the “middle voice” (in Greek) denoting himself.
    (Jesus comes at the fathers right hand, WITH YHVH)

    “OUR” is used in conjunction with “abode”, which
    IS THE SAME WORD TRANSLATED A MANSION.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #339526
    2besee
    Participant

    Moved from another thread:

    Quote
    Jesus had both his own and God's which is why he stated “not as I will but as you will”. God's Spirit is later called by Jesus' name. I can think of two different reasons why to do that.

    (By Kerwin)

    #339527
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 26 2013,10:56)
    Hi 2Besee,

    Paul’s Greek-written manuscripts have the Hebrew name [עושהי] YÄ-shü-ă translated into Greek as [Ιησους] Ē-Ā-Soos.
    Note the similarity in pronunciation and Theomatic values for both Ē-Ā-Soos=74 and Jesus=74. While Theomatics keeps
    mathematical connections in English, it tells nothing of GOD’s name [יה] YÄ being linguistically distanced further and further
    from His Word by re-transcribing a previous translation. Specifically, instead of transcribing the authentic Hebrew Name (יהשוע),
    the King James linguistics instead transcribed the Greek name for Jesus (Ιησους); which is unauthentic because it is a
    “translation of a translation”. [יהשוע] translates directly into “English” as [Joshua=74] and pronounced YÄ-shü-ă.

    Jesus’ authentic name [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă has a direct connection to GOD’s name [יה] in that YÄ is the first part of Jesus’ Hebrew name.
    GOD’s name is not vocalized in the English translation of the name Jesus and therefore misses the precise exactness and direct
    authentic connection to God’s Hebrew name [יה] YÄ. Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means: (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[עשי]=[יהשוע])  
    the salvation of “GOD the Father”. Therefore [יהשוע] “Jesus” name authentically establishes [יהוה] “JEHOVAH” as the Highest Name.
    (Phil. 2:9,11: Wherefore Holy Spirit=151 has highly exalted Jesus=74 giving Him a name which is above every name, to the glory of
    GOD The Father=117.) Neither is there salvation in any other name: for there is no other name given among men (יהשוע), whereby
    we must be saved. (Acts 4:12) People speaking fluent Hebrew know that in essence, [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă means: “YÄ is Savior”.

    The Hebrew word [ישוע] Yəsh-yü-ă merely means ‘He will save’. Distancing [יה]’s salvation from the man Jesus
    is a rejection of YÄ-shoe-ă=74 as Messiah=74. This subtle distinction of [ישוע] Yəsh-yü-ă purposely substituted
    for [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă usually goes unnoticed when heard by a non Hebrew-speaking person; nevertheless, this
    wholly implies a specific denial of Jesus as Lord and Savior. Jesus being found in fashion as a man, humbled himself,
    and became obedient unto death, even His death on the cross [†]. (Phil. 2:8) Along with Jesus, either the phrase
    |יהודיםה לךמ נצריה השועי| or the acronym of it was posted on a plaque and nailed to the Cross=74. This Hebrew
    inscription means |YÄ shü ă of Nazareth the king of the Jews|. YÄ-shü-ă means: “YÄ will save” because
    “YÄ is YHVH”=117 and “YHVH is GOD”=117. Which means: GOD the Father is Christ’s Savior (Gal. 1:1)
    and ours (1Cor. 6:14). “GOD the Father”=117 “is” “The Savior”=117.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    That is cool Ed, thanks.

    #339530
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 26 2013,04:55)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 25 2013,20:43)
    John 14:17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seethe him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
    18  I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.


    2besee……>I believe what Jesus meant by saying this , is that the Spirit of Truth that was “IN” him and as a result was with them, But when Jesus left He had the Father send “IT” unto the disciples to be “IN” them also , Just as it was sin Jesus.

    I also believe a Spirit is not a He or a She, but is better portrayed as an “IT”, because every Spirit imparts “IT'S” particular influence to us. Rather it is a clean or unclean spirit or the Holy (set aside Spirit) of God.

    God who is a Spirit was indeed in Jesus and can dwell in us also, Like Paul said “know you not that your “BODY” is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and again that God may be all and in you all. Jesus was speaking the words of God by God presence “IN” him and it was that Spirit of truth that said I will not leave you comfort-less,

    The spirit of Truth is indeed a COMFORTER , it is this Spirit that give us the Cognoscenti of a stable and  sound Mind , and also the Joy that Jesus Had in him also.  IMO

    peace and Love to you and yours………………………….gene


    Thanks for your points Gene.

    #339531
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (abe @ Mar. 26 2013,08:38)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 25 2013,02:04)
    But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I have said to you.
    John 14:26

    18  I will not leave you Comfortless: I will come to you.
    John 14:18

    Please, someone with some wisdom help me to solve this.
    I can't piece it together.


    Hi 2b,

    Past?   Present?   Future?

    Jesus living?   Jesus died?   Jesus now?    Jesus future?

    Jesus future.

    Jer.3:17   At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the  name  of the LORD, to  Jerusalem:  neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

    Peace brother…


    Hi Abe.
    Do you think that this is still to come?

    #339532
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,11:25)

    Quote
    Jesus had both his own and God's which is why he stated “not as I will but as you will”.  God's Spirit is later called by Jesus' name.  I can think of two different reasons why to do that.


    Kerwin, please say more.
    What are the two reasons?
    So is the spirit now called Jesus.

    #339534
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 26 2013,11:08)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,08:29)
    Hi Ed.

    —————-
    I looked into something.
    John 14:23…

    Click on Here and scroll down to the word 2064 [e]eleusomethaἐλευσόμεθαwe will come and then click on the strongs number for that word 2064, and it does not say 'WE' will come. It just means ' I come/go'

    So,

    Answered Jesus and said to him — If anyone love me — the word of me he will keep — and the Father of me will love him — and to him (I?) come — and an abode with him will make.

    Now, that would fit with the Holy Spirit being sent!!


    Hi 2Besee,

    “WE” is the “middle voice” (in Greek) denoting himself.
    (Jesus comes at the fathers right hand, WITH YHVH)

    “OUR” is used in conjunction with “abode”, which
    IS THE SAME WORD TRANSLATED A MANSION.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, I believe that the Father is in HEAVEN.

    #339535
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 26 2013,09:08)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,08:29)
    Hi Ed.

    —————-
    I looked into something.
    John 14:23…

    Click on Here and scroll down to the word 2064 [e]eleusomethaἐλευσόμεθαwe will come and then click on the strongs number for that word 2064, and it does not say 'WE' will come. It just means ' I come/go'

    So,

    Answered Jesus and said to him — If anyone love me — the word of me he will keep — and the Father of me will love him — and to him (I?) come — and an abode with him will make.

    Now, that would fit with the Holy Spirit being sent!!


    Hi 2Besee,

    “WE” is the “middle voice” (in Greek) denoting himself.
    (Jesus comes at the fathers right hand, WITH YHVH)

    “OUR” is used in conjunction with “abode”, which
    IS THE SAME WORD TRANSLATED A MANSION.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive
     you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.” (John 14:3)

    #339536
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,09:28)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 26 2013,10:56)
    Hi 2Besee,

    Paul’s Greek-written manuscripts have the Hebrew name [עושהי] YÄ-shü-ă translated into Greek as [Ιησους] Ē-Ā-Soos.
    Note the similarity in pronunciation and Theomatic values for both Ē-Ā-Soos=74 and Jesus=74. While Theomatics keeps
    mathematical connections in English, it tells nothing of GOD’s name [יה] YÄ being linguistically distanced further and further
    from His Word by re-transcribing a previous translation. Specifically, instead of transcribing the authentic Hebrew Name (יהשוע),
    the King James linguistics instead transcribed the Greek name for Jesus (Ιησους); which is unauthentic because it is a
    “translation of a translation”. [יהשוע] translates directly into “English” as [Joshua=74] and pronounced YÄ-shü-ă.

    Jesus’ authentic name [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă has a direct connection to GOD’s name [יה] in that YÄ is the first part of Jesus’ Hebrew name.
    GOD’s name is not vocalized in the English translation of the name Jesus and therefore misses the precise exactness and direct
    authentic connection to God’s Hebrew name [יה] YÄ. Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means: (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[עשי]=[יהשוע])  
    the salvation of “GOD the Father”. Therefore [יהשוע] “Jesus” name authentically establishes [יהוה] “JEHOVAH” as the Highest Name.
    (Phil. 2:9,11: Wherefore Holy Spirit=151 has highly exalted Jesus=74 giving Him a name which is above every name, to the glory of
    GOD The Father=117.) Neither is there salvation in any other name: for there is no other name given among men (יהשוע), whereby
    we must be saved. (Acts 4:12) People speaking fluent Hebrew know that in essence, [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă means: “YÄ is Savior”.

    The Hebrew word [ישוע] Yəsh-yü-ă merely means ‘He will save’. Distancing [יה]’s salvation from the man Jesus
    is a rejection of YÄ-shoe-ă=74 as Messiah=74. This subtle distinction of [ישוע] Yəsh-yü-ă purposely substituted
    for [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă usually goes unnoticed when heard by a non Hebrew-speaking person; nevertheless, this
    wholly implies a specific denial of Jesus as Lord and Savior. Jesus being found in fashion as a man, humbled himself,
    and became obedient unto death, even His death on the cross [†]. (Phil. 2:8) Along with Jesus, either the phrase
    |יהודיםה לךמ נצריה השועי| or the acronym of it was posted on a plaque and nailed to the Cross=74. This Hebrew
    inscription means |YÄ shü ă of Nazareth the king of the Jews|. YÄ-shü-ă means: “YÄ will save” because
    “YÄ is YHVH”=117 and “YHVH is GOD”=117. Which means: GOD the Father is Christ’s Savior (Gal. 1:1)
    and ours (1Cor. 6:14). “GOD the Father”=117 “is” “The Savior”=117.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    That is cool Ed, thanks.


    :)

    #339537
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,09:41)
    Ed, I believe that the Father is in HEAVEN.


                               “I will be what I will be”

    “God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and
     I will be(see Ex.3:14) their God, and they shall be my people.”  (2 Cor 6:16)

    Ed

    #339552
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,04:38)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,11:25)

    Quote
    Jesus had both his own and God's which is why he stated “not as I will but as you will”.  God's Spirit is later called by Jesus' name.  I can think of two different reasons why to do that.


    Kerwin, please say more.
    What are the two reasons?
    So is the spirit now called Jesus.


    2besee,

    1 Jesus lives by God's Spirit.
    2 Jesus sends it.

    The Spirit is called Christ.

    The new man seems a better one to be called Jesus Christ.

    #339559
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    The italicized words below are things said about “the Word” in John 1.  The scriptures listed in parenthesis identify some of the places in scripture where those same exact things are said about Jesus.

    1.  And the Word was a god:  (Is 9:6, Heb 1:8-9, etc.)

    2.  He was with God in the beginning:  (John 17:5)

    3.  All things were made through him:  (Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6, Heb 1:2)

    4.  In him was life, and that life was the light of men:  (John 5:26, John 8:12)

    5.  The light shines in the darkness:  (Matthew 4:16; John 3:19; 2 Corinthians 4:6)

    6.  John the Baptist came as a witness to testify concerning that light:  (John 1:29-34; 3:26; 5:32-36)

    7.  The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world:  (Isaiah 42:6-7; John 3:19, 9:5, 12:35-36, 46; Luke 1:78-79)

    8.  Though he was in the world, the world did not recognize him:  (Isaiah 53:3, John 4:10, Acts 13:27, John 12:37-38, 1 John 3:1)

    9.  He came to that which was his own: (Col 1:16; Matt 11:27; John 3:35, 13:3, 16:15; Eph 1:10; Heb 1:2)

    10.  but his own did not receive him:  (Luke 9:53; John 5:43; Acts 13:46)

    11.  to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God:  (Acts 4:12; John 3:14-16; Gal 3:26; Heb 2:10; Eph 1:5)

    12.  The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us:  (1 John 1:1-2, 4:2; Phil 2:6-7; Rom 8:3; Gal 4:4-5)

    13.  We have seen his glory, the glory of the only begotten:  (John 1:18, 3:16-18; 1 John 4:9)

    14.  who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.:  (John 1:16, 14:6; Luke 2:40; Romans 1:5)

    15.  John testified concerning him.:  (Mark 1:7-8; John 1:32, 34; John 3:26; John 5:32-33; John 10:41)

    Moving on…………….

    He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”

    Supporting scriptures:

    John 1
    29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

    30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’

    John 3
    28 You yourselves can testify that I said, ‘I am not the Messiah but am sent ahead of him.

    30 He must become greater; I must become less.

    Micah 5:2
    “But you, Bethlehem………… out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”

    #339560
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 25 2013,14:36)

    Quote (abe @ Mar. 26 2013,08:38)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 25 2013,02:04)
    But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I have said to you.
    John 14:26

    18  I will not leave you Comfortless: I will come to you.
    John 14:18

    Please, someone with some wisdom help me to solve this.
    I can't piece it together.


    Hi 2b,

    Past?   Present?   Future?

    Jesus living?   Jesus died?   Jesus now?    Jesus future?

    Jesus future.

    Jer.3:17   At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the  name  of the LORD, to  Jerusalem:  neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

    Peace brother…


    Hi Abe.
    Do you think that this is still to come?


    Hi 2b,

    Rev.22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

    Peace brother.

    #339662
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 26 2013,11:08)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,08:29)
    Hi Ed.

    —————-
    I looked into something.
    John 14:23…

    Click on Here and scroll down to the word 2064 [e]eleusomethaἐλευσόμεθαwe will come and then click on the strongs number for that word 2064, and it does not say 'WE' will come. It just means ' I come/go'

    So,

    Answered Jesus and said to him — If anyone love me — the word of me he will keep — and the Father of me will love him — and to him (I?) come — and an abode with him will make.

    Now, that would fit with the Holy Spirit being sent!!


    Hi 2Besee,

    “WE” is the “middle voice” (in Greek) denoting himself.
    (Jesus comes at the fathers right hand, WITH YHVH)

    “OUR” is used in conjunction with “abode”, which
    IS THE SAME WORD TRANSLATED A MANSION.


    Ed, you said:

    Quote
    “OUR” is used in conjunction with “abode”, which
    IS THE SAME WORD TRANSLATED A MANSION.

    Did you click on the link to the Greek wording? Please do that now, Ed, and you will see that the word “OUR” is not there in conjunction with “abode”, just as the word that has been translated as “we will come” is actually in “strongs” simply “will come” and match that with what Jesus said when he said that HE will come however, the Holy Spirit came.

    Here is the link again:

    http://biblos.com/john/14-23.htm

    Now clink on the strongs number next to the word “we will come”.

    #339666
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 26 2013,11:45)
    “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive
     you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.” (John 14:3)

    Ed, Good verse.
    Now, read the whole chapter (14) whilst keeping in mind the Greek which reads “I will come” and “make abode”.

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 26 2013,11:48)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,09:41)
    Ed, I believe that the Father is in HEAVEN.


                               “I will be what I will be”

    “God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and
     I will be(see Ex.3:14) their God, and they shall be my people.”  (2 Cor 6:16)

    Ed

    Through the Spirit of God (1Cor 2:10-16) just as the Holy Spirit was in Jesus, and the Father was in heaven.

    Jesus prayed to the Father in Heaven and told us to pray to the Father in Heaven.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2013,15:08)
    The italicized words below are things said about “the Word” in John 1.  The scriptures listed in parenthesis identify some of the places in scripture where those same exact things are said about Jesus.

    1.  And the Word was a god:  (Is 9:6, Heb 1:8-9, etc.)

    2.  He was with God in the beginning:  (John 17:5)

    3.  All things were made through him:  (Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6, Heb 1:2)

    4.  In him was life, and that life was the light of men:  (John 5:26, John 8:12)

    5.  The light shines in the darkness:  (Matthew 4:16; John 3:19; 2 Corinthians 4:6)

    6.  John the Baptist came as a witness to testify concerning that light:  (John 1:29-34; 3:26; 5:32-36)

    7.  The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world:  (Isaiah 42:6-7; John 3:19, 9:5, 12:35-36, 46; Luke 1:78-79)

    8.  Though he was in the world, the world did not recognize him:  (Isaiah 53:3, John 4:10, Acts 13:27, John 12:37-38, 1 John 3:1)

    9.  He came to that which was his own: (Col 1:16; Matt 11:27; John 3:35, 13:3, 16:15; Eph 1:10; Heb 1:2)

    10.  but his own did not receive him:  (Luke 9:53; John 5:43; Acts 13:46)

    11.  to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God:  (Acts 4:12; John 3:14-16; Gal 3:26; Heb 2:10; Eph 1:5)

    12.  The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us:  (1 John 1:1-2, 4:2; Phil 2:6-7; Rom 8:3; Gal 4:4-5)

    13.  We have seen his glory, the glory of the only begotten:  (John 1:18, 3:16-18; 1 John 4:9)

    14.  who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.:  (John 1:16, 14:6; Luke 2:40; Romans 1:5)

    15.  John testified concerning him.:  (Mark 1:7-8; John 1:32, 34; John 3:26; John 5:32-33; John 10:41)

    Moving on…………….

    He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”

    Supporting scriptures:

    John 1
    29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

    30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’

    John 3
    28 You yourselves can testify that I said, ‘I am not the Messiah but am sent ahead of him.

    30 He must become greater; I must become less.

    Micah 5:2
    “But you, Bethlehem………… out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”

    Mike,
    It is late where i live so I will “attack” your post tomorrow, if you want me to.

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