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- April 10, 2021 at 3:04 am#870161GeneBalthropParticipant
Berean……We all proceeded and came forth from God, this whole world and everything in it did. Why does that statement make you fell that Jesus was any different then we are? Jesus was no more any different then the rest of humanity, except he was a prophet, which set him apart, and a prophesied, human being, to come into his “existence” through the loins of king David at a certain time . He was a 100% human being , tempted exactly as we are , and was by the power of God’s Holy Spirit, kept from sinning.
Jesus, is the “prototype” of what God the Father has in mind for all humanity. He is the exact reason, and intention God the Father had and has in mind for all humanity.
He never wanted us to separate our identity with him as a human being, but want’s us to see how we also can have the exact same relationship with Him as the “human man”, Jesus has. Just as it say,
Eph 4:13….Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the son of son of God, “unto a “perfect” man, unto the measure of the stature of the “fulness” of Christ.
All who try to make Jesus out to be different the a true human being and turn him into their God and worship him as such are the “ministers of Satan”, doing exactly what he want them to do, drive a wedge , between Jesus and the rest of his human brothers and sisters. So they will think they can’t actually attain to his stature, Satan and his minister’s do this, by making Jesus out to be completely different then we are. So we can’t “truly” identify with him and have the same “FAITH” he had in God the Father.
peace and love to you and yours………..gene
April 10, 2021 at 4:22 am#870162BereanParticipantGene AND all
JÉSUS IS THE OWN AND ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD .(JOHN 3:16)
His origin IS FROM GOD IN Eternity past(MICHAH 5:2 AND JOHN 8:42)
HE BECAME FLESH FOR YOUR SALVATION(JOHN 3:16)
YOU AND ALL HUMAINS COME FROM ONE HUMAN’S FATHER BY ONE HUMAN’S MOTHER.
April 10, 2021 at 7:21 am#870163LightenupParticipant@DannyDabbs
Hi Danny, if you are still reading here, I have prepared for you a fuller picture than what you have been given by Jodi. May God be with you on your search…I’ve been there. God is good!
In the beginning was the Word (a), the Image of the invisible God-the Father YHVH -(b). The Word was with the invisible God and was God (a), the only begotten One (c), the Son YHVH. They are YHVH echad (d), they are one (e). The Son was the YHVH through whom all things were made (f), everything in heaven and on the earth, all things visible and invisible.(g) He was the son YHVH, that founded the earth and spread out the heavens(h). All things were made through Him and for Him. The Son YHVH is before all things and in Him, all things hold together (i) to the glory of His Father..
Although the Son YHVH is the radiance of the Father and the exact representation of the Father’s nature (j), He did not cling to his divine splendor. He willingly emptied Himself to become the promised Son of David, a mere man as a babe, divinely conceived in the womb of a virgin, partaking in flesh and blood (k). He was tempted in every way as we are, yet without sin (l), always walking in obedience to YHVH, His Father even to the point of death (m).
After the death, burial, and resurrection of the Son of David, whom we call Jesus the Christ, the Son YHVH, who had willingly become lower than all created heavenly beings (n), was highly exalted far above all created heavenly beings (o), and given the name above all names (p). As YHVH our Righteousness, He sits at the right hand of God, the Father YHVH (q). At this time, He has all authority in heaven and on earth (r). He is the Lord of lords (s) YHVH our Righteousness (t).
Because the Son YHVH paid the price for our sin, salvation is offered to all who believe in the Son (u). We can now be saved by grace and not by our works (v). Praise be to Jesus, YHVH our Righteousness!!
a. John 1:1
b. Col 1:15
c. John 1:18
d. Deut 6:4
e. John 10:30
f. John 1:3
g. Col 1:16
h. Heb 1:10, Psalms 102:25
i. Col 1:17
j. Heb 1:3
k. Phil 2:7, Matt 1:18-20, Heb 2:14
l. 2 Cor 5:21
m. John 8:29
n. Heb 2:9
o. Heb 1:4
p. Phil 2:9
q. Mark 16:19
r. Matt 28:18
s. Rev 17:14, Deut 10:17
t. Jer 23:6
u. 1 John 5:10-13
v. Eph 2:8
April 11, 2021 at 1:05 am#870180BereanParticipantHi To all
𝗪𝗛𝗬 𝗗𝗜𝗗 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗙𝗔𝗧𝗛𝗘𝗥 𝗖𝗔𝗟𝗟 𝗛𝗜𝗦 𝗦𝗢𝗡 “𝗚𝗢𝗗”?
In Hebrews 1: 1-9 we note that the speaker is God the Father and he addresses his Son and calls him “God.”
Verse 2 says that Christ was the “appointed heir” of all things.
An “heir” is of course someone who receives an “inheritance” from someone.
In this case, Christ the Son received an “INHERITANCE” from his Father.
But what did he receive?
His “NAME”, his authority and his power!
In other words, Jesus being the one and only begotten Son of the living God received by virtue of his birth all the attributes that his Father possessed.
Verse 4 says,
“To be made so much better than the angels, as He obtained by ‘INHERITANCE’ a” NAME “more excellent than them.”
Verse 8 says that this more excellent “NAME” is the name “God”, which was given by the Father to his Son.
“To the Son he [God] said: Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.”
And so this name that He has by “INHERITANCE”.
It is not a “NAME” which has been granted but a “NAME” which has been “INHERITED” from His Father.
Christ not only inherited his name, but also other things.
The name means authority (Mark 11: 9, John 5:43), and it also means character and nature (Exodus 33: 18-19, Exodus 34: 5-6).
The name Adam means human for example.
When people have children, they not only inherit the name of their parents, but they also inherit the nature of the parents, which of course is human nature.
Likewise, Jesus inherited the same name as his Father, just as a child inherits the name of the parents, and he also inherits the nature of his Father, which is his divine nature.
Christ also inherits the life of his Father.
“For as the Father has life in himself,
thus he gave the Son to have life in himself. (John 5:26.)If Jesus had always existed alongside the Father as the doctrine of the Trinity claims, then God would not have GIVEN his Son life as he always would have had.
But the Scriptures reveal that it is impossible.
So, there is only one “ONE” True God.
Jesus is “NOT” the God, He is the “Son of God”.
He bears the “NAME” of God by virtue of His “INHERITANCE”.
And because He is the Son of God, He is “EQUAL” with God.
Félix Noriwo Jakazira
___________________________________________________________________“This name [God] was not given to Christ as a result of a great accomplishment, but it is his by right of inheritance. Speaking of the power and greatness of Christ, the writer to the Hebrews says that he became so much better than the angels, for “He inherited a name more excellent than them.” Heb. 1: 4 A son always rightfully takes the name of the father; and Christ, as the “only begotten Son of God,” rightfully has the same name. A son, too, is, to a greater or lesser degree, a reproduction of the father, he has, to a certain extent, the traits and characteristics of his father, not perfectly, for there is no perfect reproduction. among humanity. But there is no imperfection in God, nor in any of His works, and therefore Christ is the “express image” of the person of the Father. Heb. As the self-existent Son of God, He by nature has all of the attributes of Deity.
It is true that there are many sons of God, but Christ is the “only begotten Son of God” and therefore the Son of God in a sense that no other being has ever been, nor can ever be.
Angels are sons of God, as was Adam (Job 38: 7; Luke 3:38), by creation, Christians are sons of God by adoption (Rom. 8: 14,15), but CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD BY BIRTH.
The author of the Hebrews further shows that the position of the Son of God is not that to which Christ was lifted up,
but that there is one he has a right to.(E.J. Wagoner, CAHR, p. 11-12)
April 11, 2021 at 1:58 am#870181GeneBalthropParticipantBerean…..you, “he himself is not the God, but because he is the son of God, he is “equal” with God’.
Didn’t Jesus clearly say “the son of man”. Can do “nothing” of himself”? Do you understand that, and why he said it?
Here is some help, because it was the truth, and he wanted everyone to understand that it was God the Father who was doing the works, not him. Just as Moses was not the one doing the works either, it was God the Father doing it. Jesus was a prophet, just as Moses was also. But the “man” Jesus, was given more importance them the “man” Moses was. Because through Jesus, “God the Father”, would deliver all of man kind, from the penalty of eternal death. By the offering up of his own “lamb sacrifice, for the sins of the world. So that our sins might be also “passed over.”
Berean, what you and and Lu, are doing, is simply the blind following the blind. You need to stop following all these false teachers and trust in God the Father to show you the truth, or you will end up in the same place they do. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……..gene
April 11, 2021 at 4:26 am#870182LightenupParticipantGene,
Read here how Moses and Jesus are different:
1Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession: Jesus; 2He was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was in all His house. 3For He has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the builder of the house has more honor than the house. 4For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God. 5Now Moses was faithful in all God’s house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken later; 6but Christ was faithful as a Son over His house—whose house we are, if we hold firmly to our confidence and the boast of our hope.
Moses was faithful as A SERVANT IN God’s house.
Jesus was faithful OVER HIS HOUSE AS A SON.
See the difference. Believers are the “house.” Jesus is OVER the house that he, Jesus, built.
Jesus serves over, not in His house. Moses did not build the house he served in. Jesus built the house He is over.Be thou not in believing but believing.
Blessings, LU
April 11, 2021 at 4:52 am#870183LightenupParticipantWhen I make a post from my phone, submit it, then edit it, and submit it after it is edited, I can see it in my personal activities but it disappears from the thread. I will repost it in the next post. This has happened before.
April 11, 2021 at 4:52 am#870184LightenupParticipantGene,
Read here how Moses and Jesus are different:
1Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession: Jesus; 2He was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was in all His house. 3For He has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the builder of the house has more honor than the house. 4For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God. 5Now Moses was faithful in all God’s house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken later; 6but Christ was faithful as a Son over His house—whose house we are, if we hold firmly to our confidence and the boast of our hope.
Moses was faithful as A SERVANT IN God’s house.Jesus was faithful OVER HIS HOUSE AS A SON.
see the difference. Believers are the “house.” Jesus is OVER the house that he, Jesus, built.
Jesus serves over, not in His house. Moses did not build the house he served in. Jesus built the house He is over.Be thou not in believing but believing.
Blessings, LU
April 11, 2021 at 4:57 am#870185LightenupParticipantGene,
Read here how Moses and Jesus are different:
1Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession: Jesus; 2He was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was in all His house. 3For He has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the builder of the house has more honor than the house. 4For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God. 5Now Moses was faithful in all God’s house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken later; 6but Christ was faithful as a Son over His house—whose house we are, if we hold firmly to our confidence and the boast of our hope.
Moses was faithful as A SERVANT IN God’s house.
Jesus was faithful OVER HIS HOUSE AS A SON.
see the difference. Believers are the “house.” Jesus is OVER the house that he, Jesus, built.
Jesus serves over, not in His house. Moses did not build the house he served in. Jesus built the house He is over.
Be thou not unbelieving but believing.
Blessings, LU
April 11, 2021 at 11:14 am#870189carmelParticipantHi Gene,
YOU: Didn’t Jesus clearly say
“the son of man”. Can do “nothing” of himself”?
Do you understand that, and why he said it?
ME: John 16:7 But I tell you the truth: it is expedient to you that I go: for if I go not, the Paraclete will not come to you; but if I go,
I will send him to you.
Gene, ANSWER: DID JESUS IN THE ABOVE SEND THE PARACLETE
BY HIMSELF,
BY HIS FATHER or
BY BOTH HIMSELF and HIS FATHER?
Gene, ACCEPT THE PERFECT HARMONY AND ONENESS OF GOD BETWEEN
THE FATHER and THE SON.
NO FATHER NO JESUS
NO JESUS NO FATHER16:14 He shall glorify me;
because he shall receive of MINE,
and shall shew it to you.
Gene, IN THE ABOVE IT IS CLEARLY DECLARED BY JESUS THAT REGARDING HIS PHYSICAL TASK ON EARTH,
THE FATHER CANNOT DO ALL THINGS BY HIMSELF!
Well clear hereunder:
15All THINGS whatsoever the Father hath, are MINE.
Therefore I said, that he shall receive of mine, and shew it to you.
Gene, ACCEPT THE PERFECT HARMONY AND ONENESS OF GOD BETWEEN
THE FATHER and THE SON.
NO FATHER NO JESUS
NO JESUS NO FATHER
NOW ONE OF THE MAIN THE REASONS THAT JESUS, PRE-EXISTED, PROCEEDED FROM THE FATHER AND WAS SENT ON THIS MORTAL AND SATANIC PLANET, WAS,
THAT THOSE WHO NEW MANY GODS, AND NEVER KNEW THE TRUE GOD,
NOW ON JESUS DEATH, BY JESUS AND IN
JESUS’ PERSON, ETERNAL LIFE,
IS THE TIME, THAT THEY WILL KNOW,
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST.
OK Gene, THAT’S THE TRUTH:
ACCEPT THE PERFECT HARMONY AND ONENESS OF GOD BETWEEN
THE FATHER and THE SON.
NO JESUS NO FATHER
NO FATHER NO JESUS
Well aserted by Jesus in
John 17:3 Now this is eternal life,
That they may know thee,
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4I have glorified thee on the earth;
I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5And now (IT IS THE FATHER’S, TURN Gene!!!)
glorify thou me,
O Father, with thyself, with the glory which I had,
before the world was,
with thee.
IN JESUS CHRIST, THE PHYSICAL EMBODIMENT OF GOD!
THE BEGINNING!
John 1:1 1IN the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Gene, ACCEPT THE PERFECT HARMONY AND ONENESS OF GOD BETWEEN
THE FATHER and THE SON.
NO FATHER NO JESUS
NO JESUS NO FATHERPeace and love in Jesus Christ
April 11, 2021 at 11:51 am#870190GeneBalthropParticipantLu…..Who did you say the builder of “all” things was?
Did Jesus not say, that no man, “CAN” come unto him, except God “DRAW” him? Jesus is not the builder, God the Father is the builder of the house, Jesus is placed over the HOUSE THAT GOD THE FATHER BUILT.
So his glory is greater then that of MOSE that is true. But where does that say Jesus is greater then Moses, as a human being goes. Fact is Jesus is the exact same as “all” humans are , but with greater authority then any servants in the house “God built.” , what you quoted was a comparison of “Authority” not of his humanity. Both are equally human beings, one has more authority then the other that is all that was being discussed there .
You are falsely teaching it as a means of making Jesus appear different in his actual existence, from Moses, and the rest of his human brothers and sisters, trying to change him from a human being to a “Deity” By making that scripture appear, as it is talking about, his human existence , and not just about his position and authority , “IN” humanity.
clever, but doesn’t work , Jesus is 100% a human being, alway was and aways will be. He is a Son of man, according to him anyway , he is the “root and offspring” of king David. That is if you “truly” believe Jesus, and what “he” said.
peace and love to you and yours………geneApril 11, 2021 at 12:13 pm#870191GeneBalthropParticipantCarmel……. Why not first answer my question, a very simple question . Skipping around all over the place to deviate from answering the question, is a famous way to change thought, Satan favorite way of deceiving people.
I was told a long time ago, “you can’t catch a “snake” in a bier patch”. Because when you get them in a corner they just slider off in another direction. That is exactly what you do Carmel. Answer my question or we go no further, I answered yours.
Is Jesus at this time the “only” human being sitting in the ‘true’ temple of God and being worshipped as a God? Yes or No, will suffice
Peace and love to you and yours………gene
April 11, 2021 at 7:19 pm#870194LightenupParticipantGene,
3For He (the Son, Jesus Christ) has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the builder of the house has more honor than the house.
The verse says it clearly that Jesus built the house that refers to the believers as the house. Moses was a member IN God’s house, Jesus was the Son over His own house of many members. Big difference. Moses was a member and servant in the house, the Son was the builder over His house of believing members.
You ask: Who did you say the builder of “all” things was?
YHVH, the God of gods and the Lord of lords…the Son is the Lord of lords.
Heb 1 the Father speaking about the Son:
10And,
“YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH,
AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;
Col 1 15He (the Son) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation: 16for by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or rulers, or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.
John 1:3 regarding the “Word” that became flesh ( i.e. the Son):
3All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.
Heb 1 …His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom He also made the world.
As the Messiah, the Son, Jesus Christ, builds the house of all believers. As the Son YHVH, the Father made all things through Him in heaven and on the earth, all things visible and invisible.
I hope that helps, LU
April 11, 2021 at 8:20 pm#870195carmelParticipantHi Gene,
YOU: Answer my question or we go no further, I answered yours.
ME: first and foremost:
YOU DIDN’T ANSWER MY QUESTION AT ALL Gene.
Second, THAT QUESTION IS IN THE OTHER TOPIC OK? BUT SINCE TO QUENCH YOUR THIRST AND PRESENT YOURSELF
A HERO
YOU ASKED ME IN THIS TOPIC!
I WILL ASK YOU AGAIN: BUT FIRST READ AGAIN YOUR OWN WORDS
FULL OF CONFUSIONS EVEN TRYING TO JUSTIFY AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF:
Carmel….I say him, that certainly do not mean me, unless used in a prophetic statement concerning “himself’.
SO
ANSWER: and watch the TENSE!
WHO DWELLS IN THE TEMPLE?
I MEAN WHO IS
“HIM” Be specific! truth hurts, Gene!
that Jesus referred to.
JESUS SPOKE THOSE WORDS Gene,
don’t tell me that
YOU BELIEVE
THAT JESUS WAS IN THE TEMPLE EVEN WHEN
HE WAS ON EARTH, and ACCORDING TO YOU AND JODI, JESUS IS A MERE
SON OF MAN!
LIKE ALL HUMANS! DO YOU?
WERE ARE YOU GOING WITH YOUR CARNAL IMAGINATION and CONFUSION?
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
April 12, 2021 at 2:22 am#870196GeneBalthropParticipantCarmel…..Simple question, and you can’t even answer that, without going all over the place, trying desperately to avoid it by bringing in other issues, it’s no one can get to any truth with you, you certainly are a master at deception. A true follower of Jesus would easily answer that question, with a yes or no, as far as this thread going off subject matter goes please show us where any thing you have said is on subject matter so far, so again, I ask you,
Is Jesus the one who “now” sits in the temple of God , being worshiped by you and others as your God? Why are you so “ashamed” to answer that simple question Carmel?If you want me to go to another thread to ask it to you, I will, please tell me which one you want me to use.
peace and love to you and yours………gene
April 12, 2021 at 2:53 am#870198GeneBalthropParticipantCarmel…..”“a mire man” , lets see what our Scriptures says about that,
Heb 2;6….”but one in a certain place testified, saying “what is man, that you are mindful of him? or that the son of man that you visit him”?
Here comes the answer your Carmel .
Heb 2:7….You made him a “little” lower than the angels/messengers, you have “crowned him with Glory and Honor, and did put him over the works of your hands: even more,Heb 2:8….“you have put “ALLEGATIONS THINGS ” under his (mankind’s) feet. For in that he put “ALL THINGS” in subjection under his feet, he left “NOTHING ” that is not put under him (mankind) .
Carmel , AND ‘YOU” SAY “MIRE” man?, Seems our scriptures have a different view then you do abut mankind. Mankind is the ‘Crown Jewel of all of God the Fathers creation.
Peace and love to you and yours………..gene
April 12, 2021 at 4:50 am#870202carmelParticipantHi Gene,
YOU: If you want me to go to another thread to ask it to you,
I will,
please tell me which one you want me to use.
Again in the above, you are trying to present yourself AN HONEST SINCERE MAN, but the truth is Gene, that in this thread no one can trace the respective posts between us regarding my first question to you, in order to understand what we are aiming at, which is THE TRUTH, and you simply took advantage of the situation in this thread, and as soon as I answered your post, of which you ignored, presented yourself
THE HONEST PERSON, and ironically you simply revealed your desperate state with respect to my question and to quench your thirst at least for a mere moment YOU SAID TO ME:
YOU: Skipping around all over the place to deviate from answering the question, is a famous way to change thought, Satan favorite way of deceiving people.
I was told a long time ago, “you can’t catch a “snake” in a bier patch”. Because when you get them in a corner they just slider off in another direction. That is exactly what you do Carmel.
ME: YOU ARE IN A CORNER Gene,
YOU DEVIATED YOURSELF AND JUST SLID ONTO THIS THREAD I’M AFRAID!
Now this is the thread, though you know which:
topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/785/
#870090
Now for clarity’s sake, READ AGAIN hereunder what I said in my last post in this thread, of which you simply TWISTED TO YOUR ADVANTAGE AND AGAIN YOU END UP AS A HERO UNLESS YOU DIDN’T READ PROPERLY MY POST.
ME: don’t tell me that
YOU BELIEVE
THAT JESUS WAS IN THE TEMPLE EVEN WHEN
HE WAS ON EARTH, andACCORDING TO YOU AND JODI,
JESUS IS A MERE
SON OF MAN!
LIKE ALL HUMANS! DO YOU?
OK Gene, YOU AND JODI, BUT MOSTLY YOU SCREAM ALL THE TIME THAT
JESUS IS EXACTLY LIKE ALL HUMANS.
A MERE MAN!
Now, in the meantime, for the sake of those who are reading this thread hereunder is my very first post where I asked this QUESTION WHICH FOR YOU IT IS DEFINITELY AN ENORMOUS PREOCCUPATION TO ANSWER, BY THE LOOK OF IT, CONSIDERING THAT IT’S ALREADY 6 DAYS SINCE I POSTED IT.
Read Gene this scripture:
Matthew 23:2 And whosoever shall swear by temple,
sweareth by it,
and by HIM that dwelleth in it:
NOW, IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH, ANSWER Gene:
WHO DWELLS IN THE TEMPLE?
Gene, ARE YOU READY TO SIMPLY REVEAL WHO IS
HIM?
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
April 12, 2021 at 8:06 am#870203carmelParticipantHi Gene,
YOU:Carmel , AND ‘YOU” SAY “MIRE” man?, Seems our scriptures have a different view then you do abut mankind.
ME: NOW ONCE WE SETTLED WHO IN ACTUAL FACT CALLED JESUS A MERE MAN, HEREUNDER IS ARE SCRIPTURES, LIKE WHICH THERE ARE MANY MORE OTHERS, WHICH GIVES YOU THE CLEAREST STATE OF MANKIND, NOT WHEN GOD CREATED
ADAM IN HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS,
BUT WHEN ADAM REJECTED GOD AND BECAME
THE IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF SATAN,
EVEN IN HIS CURSED MORTAL SUBSTANCE OF
FLESH AND BLOOD TOTALLY SATANIC THROUGHOUT IN EVERY SENSE!
SPIRITUALLY DEAD IN RELATION TO GOD!
Genesis 6:5And God seeing that the wickedness of men was great on the earth, and that all the thought of their heart was bent upon evil at all times,
6It repented him that he had made man on the earth.
And being touched inwardly with sorrow of heart,
7He said: I will destroy man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth,
from man even to beasts, from the creeping thing even to the fowls of the air, for it repenteth me that I have made them.
THE FACT THAT ONLY A DIVINE INTERVENTION WAS POSSIBLE IN ORDER FOR MANKIND TO RETURN BACK TO THE FATHER BY THE SACRIFICE OF “THE WORD” MADE FLESH,
JESUS, THE SON OF MAN, JESUS’ HUMAN NATURE,
IN EXCHANGE FOR THE HUMAN RACE
PRECISELY ON HIS RESURRECTION WHERE THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE WAS
BEGOTTEN FROM THE DEAD, EMBODIED IN
JESUS THE SON OF MAN, AND MADE
THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE ALL AUTHENTIC CHILDREN OF GOD IN HIMSELF!
THE MAN BORN AGAIN John3:3.
Titus 3:3For we ourselves also were some time unwise, incredulous, erring, slaves to divers desires and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
4But when the goodness and kindness of God our Savior appeared: (PRE-EXISTED)
5Not by the works of justice, which we have done,
but according to his mercy, he saved us,
by the laver of regeneration, and renovation of the Holy Ghost; 6Whom he hath poured forth upon us abundantly,
through Jesus Christ our Savior:
1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen generation, a kingly priesthood, a holy nation,
a purchased people: that you may declare his virtues,
who hath called you out of DARKNESS into his marvellous light:
10Who in time past were NOT A PEOPLE:
but are now the people of God. Who had not obtained mercy; but now have obtained mercy.
11Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims,
to refrain yourselves from carnal desires which war against the soul,
Galatians5:I say then, walk in the spirit, and you shall not fulfil the lusts of the flesh.
17For the flesh lusteth against the spirit: and the spirit against the flesh; for these are contrary one to another: so that you do not the things that you would. 18But if you are led by the spirit, you are not under the law. 19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornication, uncleanness, immodesty, luxury, 20Idolatry, witchcrafts, enmities, contentions, emulations, wraths, quarrels, dissensions, sects, 21Envies, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like.
YOU: Mankind is the ‘Crown Jewel of all of God the Fathers creation.
ME: I HAVE NOT A SINGLE DOUBT ABOUT GOD AND HIS WORK IN CREATION.
GOD IS LOVE AND ALL WHATEVER HE CREATED IS THE MANIFESTATION OF HIS LOVE EVEN A MERE NUT!
BUT MANKIND IS THE OPPOSITE.
Romans 1:20For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable. 21Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God, or given thanks; but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. 23And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man,
Peace and love in Jesus Christ.
April 13, 2021 at 2:48 am#870205GeneBalthropParticipantCarmel…..And you also change the “image” of God into the “image” of a corruptible man, the Son of man, Jesus Christ. Who himself said over 80 times he was a “son of man”.
You have taken the human being , “JESUS”, and turned the “IMAGE” of him into your GOD. Which makes him into “a man of sin”, because, it brakes the commandments of our God, “you shall have “NO” other God besides me” .
2Ths 2 ….Shows exactly what you people do, and shows the result of your lies, that Jesus , will, by his own mouth destroy at his return.
You people are arrogant, you not only disobey God the Father himself, but you even disobey what Jesus himself said, “that they might know “YOU” the “ONLY” TRUE GOD”., THERE is no fear of God in you nor do you truly belief in what Jesus said either.
and again , “but unto us ( true believers) there is but, “ONE” God, and “one” mediator, between God and men, the “MAN” Jesus Christ “.
No matter how many lies , twists and turns you people say, you simply can’t get past those solid scriptures. Which you never have honestly dealt with.
peace and love to you and yours………..gene
April 13, 2021 at 3:29 am#870206BereanParticipantGene
You just don’t have the faith to believe that the divine Son of God was made flesh as John wrote in his prologue. May you let God help you, in the name of Jesus AMEN
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