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T8, I’m glad you know someone who’s Dad has been to the Antarctic. Please pass on these questions to him, so he can inquire of his Dad:
- In what capacity did he go there? What “mission” was he on?
- How was he able to verify that he was on a continent as opposed to being on a big slab of ice or a ring of ice surrounding the flat earth?
- How was he able to verify that he was actually at the south pole? Did he try a compass? If so, how did it react?
- Does he have any photos that would verify he was actually on a continent at the bottom of the globe earth?
- What exactly have these scores of scientists been doing down there for 70 years? What exactly is taking 7 decades to figure out about a big island of nothing but ice? How much ice study can be done?
- Why is it restricted to regular people like me? Why can’t I go down there and explore wherever I wish as long as I wish? After all, I can explore Yellowstone or the Grand Canyon or the outback of Australia freely, right? So why not a patch of ice?
- Are any planes actually allowed to fly OVER the continent (as opposed to flying a couple of miles inland and then turning around like the flight you recently linked for me)?
- What are the rules for those airplanes? And if they ARE allowed to fly over the entire continent, why aren’t there dozens of flights doing so every day – since it is a much shorter route than the ones they actually take in the southern hemisphere?
- Where did he urinate/defecate during his trek to the south pole?
That should be enough to get the ball rolling. Thanks in advance.
Believing the Flat Earth is one thing. but saying that it is what the Bible teaches is another. I can’t help but think this is another stumbling block and yes, woah to the men that lay this.
T8, I’m glad you know someone who’s Dad has been to the Antarctic. Please pass on these questions to him, so he can inquire of his Dad:
Will do. My friend is here for 2 weeks and I will be catching up with him again. But some of these questions I can answer myself for now.
What exactly have these scores of scientists been doing down there for 70 years? What exactly is taking 7 decades to figure out about a big island of nothing but ice? How much ice study can be done?
The curiosity of man leads him to study just about everything. You will see studies take place in all continents of Earth. But specifically, Antarctica has some special properties. The ice has preserved the past like no other continent has. They can drill through the ice and get an idea on the atmosphere, temperature, climate, etc. This info is useful to scientists as regarding earth’s history. I’m not saying the conclusions they draw are all correct, rather that is why they go there.
Why is it restricted to regular people like me? Why can’t I go down there and explore wherever I wish as long as I wish? After all, I can explore Yellowstone or the Grand Canyon or the outback of Australia freely, right? So why not a patch of ice?
People can freely fly over Antarctica and set foot on their too via a cruise.
https://eclipsetravel.co.nz/antarctica/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp66lq4ej3wIVASUrCh00oQBlEAAYASAAEgLoCfD_BwEHowever, if you just rock up there yourself and manage to get beyond the coast, then I can assure you that you will die of cold. Obviously people survive down there because they have infrastructure. So like anywhere, you cannot just fly into any airport in the world or sail to any coastline on Earth and start exploring. And yes, you can explore the Grand Canyon, but I cannot unless I first provide documentation etc. Same with Antarctica., You can go there, but procedures need to be fulfilled first. Of course the major difference between Antarctica and other continents is accessibility. The challenges of Antarctica make it near impossible for regular people to just rock up there with their own transport and a video camera around your neck.
https://oceanwide-expeditions.com/to-do/experiences/set-foot-on-the-antarctic-continent
Where did he urinate/defecate during his trek to the south pole?
Yes, and you can take a pee anywhere in Antarctica (or even the Arctic).
Despite it being very cold at times, that area of the body is very well supplied with blood vessels, and for the time it takes nothing should freeze. As you would stand with your back to the wind in those circumstances, that gives you a little more protection. Also, the cold tends to make you want to go more often, so it’s quicker once you get down through the layers of clothing and get cleared for action.
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-urinate-outside-at-the-South-Pole
Yes, I have seen videos of hot coffee being thrown into cold air and freezing, so why not when you urinate right.
But apparently, the water is not “freezing in mid air” as these videos so often describe. It’s actually doing the opposite – it’s evaporating into water vapor. This then very quickly condenses in the cold air as a cloud of visible “steam” (micro-droplets of water) which then very quickly freeze into a dust cloud of tiny ice crystals, because they are so small. The actual boiling water does not freeze instantly, and in most of the videos you can see and hear it splattering on the ground.
Mike said: “Are any planes actually allowed to fly OVER the continent (as opposed to flying a couple of miles inland and then turning around like the flight you recently linked for me)?”
Due to the arrangement of the three populated southern continents, flying over Antarctica wouldn’t actually be shorter for most routes. South America, Africa, and Australia form a rough triangle at the “bottom of the world” and the shortest leg between their largest airports misses most of Antarctica.
No commercial flights fly over Antarctica as there are special aviation rules for flights. These rules were designed for sightseeing flights but apply to commercial flights as well. Planes flying below 72 degrees latitude need special survival equipment on board, and no commercial carrier would want to stock planes with all this stuff just to save a bit of fuel. It would limit the number of seats available.
Now if you have to fly from Sydney to Capetown and you would do that via the South Pole, not only you have to cross the arctic waters around Antarctica, but also cross a big barren landmass where there are no safe spots to land in case something goes wrong. It is simply not safe enough. Flying over the North Pole is a different matter, as the landmasses where there are airports are vaster than in the south.
https://www.quora.com/Do-any-airline-flights-fly-over-Antarctica-If-not-why-not
Ah… you fixed the thread so it doesn’t take me back to page one after I post! Well done, Admin! Thank you very much.
T8: No commercial flights fly over Antarctica as there are special aviation rules for flights.
Finally! 🙂
‘No commercial flights’ doesn’t mean:
- No plane has flown over Antarctica
- That it is impossible to fly over Antarctica from coast to coast.
Here’s a question for you Mike.
Why should commercial planes fly over Antarctica?
Just to prove the world is not flat to the very few people who believe it is?
Can I remind you that commercial flights transport people and goods to destinations around the world for profit on a supply and demand basis.
Why does the Earth go backward in some eclipse animations?
If the earth is spinning in the wrong direction in these animations, the first thing that comes to my mind is the perspective is not from a stationary point outside earth, but from an orbiting object like the moon which is panning across the earth. If that orbit was faster than the spin of earth, then the earth would appear to go the other way. So I googled my hypothesis and after much searching I found this. I cannot vouch for it being correct and I have no time to do the math, but if it is correct, it answers this question. As a side note, this is a good question and would make an interesting school project for my kids. Further, please don’t laugh too hard if I made a mistake. I honestly did this very quickly and cannot really check this out as I have too many errands to run today.
You can use 86,400 seconds as the length of the day, that times 28 days, the time it takes for one revolution of the moon around the Earth, is about 2,400,000 seconds. Using the distance to the moon as 225,000 miles (it varies but for this exercise, that’s close enough), which is the radius of the more or less circular path the moon takes around the Earth, it’s not circular but elliptical but lets call it circular for this discussion. So times 2 is the diameter, 450,000 miles, times pi makes that circle 1.4 million miles give or take. So divide 1,400,000 miles by 2,400,000 seconds and you find the moon traveling in its Earthy orbit going about 0.6 miles per second. Multiply that by 3600 and you get miles per hour, which is a bit over 2000 miles per hour. At the equator the Earth is spinning about 1000 miles per hour (it’s about 25,000 miles around and it takes 24 hours so divide the two and you get close to 1000 miles per hour) So the moon is going in it’s orbit twice as fast as the Earth spins on it’s axis. Since the rate of the moon’s spin is the same as it’s orbital period of about 28 days, you always see only one side of the moon. (not completely correct since it does wobble a bit and you can see just a bit around the ‘corner’ of the moon)
Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/is-the-moon-orbiting-the-earth-at-the-same-speed-that-earth-spins.695011/Conclusion
- The moon traveling in its Earthy orbit is going about 2000 miles per hour.
- At the equator the Earth is spinning about 1000 miles per hour.
- That means the Moon is going about 1000 miles per hour across the earth when both movements are considered and if you make the moon stationary in the animation, then the earth is spinning 1000 miles per hour in the other direction.
Flat Earth is nonsense. Here you can see photos taken from balloon. The curvature is clearly visible. You can remove this thread now.
https://flatearthisnonsense.blogspot.com/2018/12/you-can-see-curvature-high-altitude.html?m=1
So many actors aye Mike. Not one has come forward and exposed the conspiracy. Must be getting paid well to keep quiet.
Mike.
- Why should commercial planes fly over Antarctica?
- What is your number one biblical verse that convinces you that the Earth is flat?
T8:
The moon traveling in its Earthy orbit is going about 2000 miles per hour.
At the equator the Earth is spinning about 1000 miles per hour.
That means the Moon is going about 1000 miles per hour across the earth when both movements are considered and if you make the moon stationary in the animation, then the earth is spinning 1000 miles per hour in the other direction.
You couldn’t have possibly watched the entire video. If you did, you’d know this:
- Yes, the official scientism explanation is that the moon orbits at twice the speed the earth rotates, and so overtakes the rotation of the earth – causing the shadow to go from west to east. So the explanation you posted is exactly what I spent 10 minutes of my video documenting.
- Also according to scientism, the moon’s 1.5 million mile orbit is 60 times farther than the 25,000 mile rotation of the earth.
Now remember, flat earth is a B.Y.O.B. party… you must Bring Your Own Brain. If the distance the moon has to travel is 60 times farther than the distance the earth has to rotate on its axis, how much faster will the moon need to be going in order to keep pace with the rotation of the earth?
A. Twice as fast.
B. 60 times as fast.
C. 43 billion times as fast.
After I get your answer, I’ll continue the lesson. Or you could skip ahead by actually watching my video to the end, and you’ll know what’s about to come. (Warning: It’s not going to be pretty for you. You’ll likely cry a little.)
Actually I did watch more of the video after I posted that. As for the math, that is something I’m not going to investigate due to time. Needless to say that the math must workout, otherwise it wouldn’t be 12 flat Earthers on planet earth decrying this, but most scientists who for whatever reason delve into this.
In a post on the previous page, I did quote someone’s mathematical analysis on this Look into that as my answer for now. If you spot an error, let me know.
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