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LU…GOD WAS Jesus’ Father, just as he was Adam and eves, it was him who made there DNA, and ADAM IS CALLED THE SON OF GOD IN SCRIPTURE. GOD the Fathers had a human begotten son that he himself fathered in a human women, infact Jesus is the only one that God the Father Father himself directly in a women, which shared MARY’S DNA, WITH T H E MALE DNA HE CREATED AND PLACED IN HER. JESUS IS INDEED THE SON OF GOD DIRECTLY JUST AS ADAM, BUT ADAM WAS CREATED FROM THE DUST OF THE GROUND, BUT Jesus came into existence through the combining of DNA supplied by God, and the DNA, MARY HIS MOTHER HAD COMMING FROM THE LOINS OF KING DAVID.
JESUS IS THEREFORE “the “ONLY” human son of God begotten by a human birth process. AS GOD THE FATHER FATHERED HIM BY IMPREGNATINF MARY. JESUS IS OUR BROTHER A FELLOW HUMAN BEING JUST AS WE ARE. BUT THE ONLY ONE THAT GOD HIMSEL BEGOT THROUGH A HUMAN BEING. Just as it says.
Anthony i know it’s hard to lay aside all those false pagan teachings you have been told all those years, but the truth of God given by his Holy Spirit will show you the truth. ASK FOR THE SPIRIT, IT WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL THUTH.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Gene,
Do you think that God has male DNA in Himself? You seem to disagree with Nick and Jodi who believe that Jesus wasn’t the son of God until he was baptized?
Blessings, LU
LU….Jesus was indeed the Son of God at birth, ln the same sense that Adam was, Adams DNA came from God his FATHER AND SO DID EVE’S,WHOS DNA WAS TAKEN FROM THE MANS DNA WHICH WAS ALTERED BY GOD HER FATHER ALSO, JUST AS JESUS’ DNA ALSO CAME FROM GOD his Father, and our DNA came from God our Father also, ALL OUR DNA came from two scources ADAM AND EVE, . All HUMAN KIND IS just mixes of THE ORIGINAL DNA, RECIEVED FROM GOD, AND THAT INCLUDES THE MAN JESUS, “FLESH BEGETS FLESH”, MARY WAS FLESH AND SHE BEGET FLESH, THE FLESH MAN JESUS THROUGH THE OVERSHADOWING OF GOD THE FATHER, BUT “SPIRIT BEGETS SPIRIT”, AND AFTER THE FLESH MAN JESUS WAS BAPTIZED BY JOHN THE BAPTIST , JESUS AS US BECAME THE SPIRITUALLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
WE ARE “EXACTLY” AS Jesus was and is, and will be exactly as he is at his comming. We should never push Jesus’ likeness to us away by saying he was different then we are, nor should we every try to make him different either as the trinitarians and false teachers do.
They have turned him into A God, therefore God the Father does not hear them, for they are IDOLATERS, THEY THAT PREACH JESUS AS A GOD RECIEVE NO MIRCLES FROM HIM. They are a cursed generation who turn our lord and brother Jesus into a GOD. Something Jesus or no deciple of his has done either.
LU what we are telling you is the truth, please carefully consider it. Jesus became a full Son of God when he recieved the Holy Spirit into him, even as we do. Remember “know you not that “NOW” We are the Sons of the living GOD” IF YOU TRULY ARE THEN YOU ARE HEIRS AND “Joint” HEIRS WITH JESUS THE HUMAN BEING, ANOINTED OF GOD THE FATHER.
LU ME AND JODI AND NICK, ARE I BELIEVE IN AGREEMENT ON THIS.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Gene,
So Jesus was partially a son of God and then he got baptized when he became a full Son of God when he received the Holy Spirit.
Is that what you are saying Gene?
Hi LU,
God is the Father of spirits.
Human and otherwise.
Heb 12.9
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence; shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits and live.
Hi LU,
Jn. 8.44
You are of your father, the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own : for he is a liar and the father of it.
God is the true Father of all spirits.
But if men choose subjection to Satan and their own lusts they can do so.
They deny their Father and become idolaters.
Hi Anthony,
Satan has been busy offering alternative options.
Another Jesus, another spirit, another gospel perhaps?
2cor 11.4 f
Keep it simple.
Hi Anthony,
Only God can help you see spiritual things.
We are unable to help you see.
The Spirit is the teacher.
This promise is still available to those who seek.
Acts 2.39. Lk 11.13
LU…..GOD “FATHERED” JESUS BOTH PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY. HE CREATED JESUS MALE DNA IN MARY BECAUSE HE WANTED JESUS TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY.
ISA 53:2….For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, as a root out of dry ground: he has no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
GOD THE FATHER WANTED THE MAN JESUS TO APPEAR A CERTAIN WAY, THEREFORE HE MADE HIS MALE DNA AND DEPOSITED IT IN MARY. WHY IS THAT SO HARD FOR YOU PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND? Mary was the “only” human vessel that GOD “HIMSELF” IMPREGNATED, BUT NOTHING ELSE
JESUS’ BIRTH DID NOT GIVE HIM ETERNAL LIFE, he had to overcome the same way we have to , with the help of God, by the spirit of God, which we must recieve ALSO inorder to OVERCOME and become eternal Sons and daughters of God the Father. Everything is the same with us as with our brother Jesus, we must die and be resurected back to life again by the exact same spirit of God, which abides in all the Fathers Childern.
“Know you not that “NOW” we “ARE” the SONS of the Living God, and it does not APPEAR what we shall be, but when he (JESUS) comes we shall be like he is. But that is not saying we or he is a GOD OF ANYKIND,
“THERE IS BUT “ONÈ” GOD, and “ONE” MEDERATOR BETWEEN THAT “ONE” GOD AND MAN! THE “MAN” THE “ANOINTED” JESUS”. NO MYSTERY HERE IT’S JUST THAT SIMPLE LU.
Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene
Hi Gene, God bless. You said to lightenup. “…GOD WAS Jesus’ Father, just as he was Adam and eves, ” You aren’t showing to many scripture. you seem to be giving your on words. Gene there is a big differents between Adam And Jesus. for one He came out from the Father before all things, creation came through Him Jesus, and that’s how the Father did it. He can do things as He pleases. For one thing Adam can’t forgive sins it’s only through the Lord Jesus Christ that we can get forgiveness. I guess if you where a priest in the pagan catholic church. Do you know latin ? I grow up in it , left it when I was 13. But any was, why i said He Jesus ” came out from the Father because that is how the Greek says it. Gene there is alot of differents between Jesus vs. Adam. Adam was created through Jesus from the Father. The Father can do things as He pleases. any ways think about what your saying. God bless
In him Anthony.
Hi Anthony,
Indeed the Spirit proceeded from and came from God.
The Word was with God and was God.
Scripture does not speak of the origins of a man but of the Spirit of Christ.
The human vessel was conceived of God in the womb of Mary.
Hi Anthony, good post. It seems they see Jesus as a super pope from what I can tell. Like the pope talks for God, decides the will of God for the church, hears and forgives people’s sins, guides people how to pray, some are healers, they are bowed down to, etc.
I don’t understand if they want to be like Jesus but then follow a man for salvation since they think Jesus is just a man. Jesus didn’t follow a man. Jesus didn’t do things in the name of a man. Jesus wasn’t teaching that a man would give him eternal life, and so on.
Jodi, Gene, and Nick also place Jesus in the “neighbor” category for you should love your neighbor as yourselves. I place Jesus in the first commandment, to love the LORD our God with all our heart, soul, and mind. To them, Jesus is just their neighbor, equal to themselves.
Nick,
you said:
The sons of God are led by the Spirit of God. Rom 8
Jesus was a son of God, according to the flesh, from his conception and God parented him.
He became a son of God, according to the Spirit, at the Jordan and he was led from that moment as Lk 4 .1 confirms.
You don’t believe that the Spirit of God was leading Jesus before the Jordan? Then what spirit was leading Jesus before the Jordan?
LU, SO YOU REALLY DO NOT BELIEVE God tbe Father was indeed “IN” Jesus as he said right?, but you believe he was God the creator of all things.
You say i haven’t quoted s riptures wrong i have quoted many many of them, had you known those scriptures you would have knew i did.
But you are right in this i see Jesus as a fellow human being, just like i am. You on the otber hand have moved JESUS AWAY FROM YOURSELF MAKING HIM INTO A GOD, BUT JESUS SAID, “that they might know “YOU” the (ONLY) TRUE GOD”, now tell us is that not “in” your bible? So there you go another part of a scripture, Now ask yourself if you truly believe What Jesus said, or not?, i doubt you do believe JESUS, or you would know He was saying, there is JUST ONE GOD, BY SAYING GOD THE FATHER IS THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD. SAYING “ONLY” IS TO SAY THERE IS ‘NO” OTHER GOD. RIGHT?
How could anyone possibly not understand that?
LU, you see and worship the “man” Jesus as a God, that is IDOLATRY, we see Jesus as a fellow human being whom God the Father, perfected and raised him up from the dead and gave him eternal life. OR DON’T YOU BELIEVE what he said, “I WAS DEAD AND NOW ALIVE, FOR EVERMORE” SO YOUR JESUS “GOD” DIED, NOW CAN A GOD REALLY DIE? OR WAS HIS DEATH A SCAM, AND HIS HUMAN EXISTENCE A DESGUISE OF SOME KIND?
NICK, JODI, AND MYSELF, HAVE QUOTED YOU FAR MORE SCRIPTURES THEN YOU HAVE, THAT IS FOR SURE, Our whole presentation is nearly all scripturally presented. If you really knew the scriptures you would know that, LU.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
Hi again Gene,
I can quote you some scriptures if you want:
Colossians 2:9 ESV
For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
John 1:1 ESV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Revelation 5:14 ESV
And the four living creatures said, “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
John 20:28 ESV
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
John 10:38 ESV
But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”
Hebrews 1:8 ESV
But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
Titus 2:13 ESV
Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
For I want you to know, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ.
Romans 14:10-11 ESV
Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.”
John 8:58 ESV
Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
Isaiah 9:6 ESV
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
2 Peter 1:1 ESV
Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
Romans 8:9 ESV
You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
Isaiah 45:22-23 ESV
“Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’
Romans 9:5 ESV
To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
John 1:3 ESV
All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Hebrews 13:8 ESV
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
Hebrews 1:6 ESV
And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.”
Colossians 1:16 ESV
For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.
Colossians 1:15 ESV
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.
Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
John 17:5 ESV
And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.
John 10:30-33 ESV
I and the Father are one.” The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”
John 9:38 ESV
He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him.
Galatians 3:28 ESV
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
John 3:13 ESV
No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.
John 1:14 ESV
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Mark 2:7 ESV
“Why does this man speak like that? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?”
Isaiah 7:14 ESV
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Genesis 1:26 ESV
Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
Revelation 19:10 ESV
Hi LU,
For IN him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily.
That is what we have been trying to tell you.
God was IN HIM reconciling the world to Himself. 2 Cor 5.19
Before Jesus was baptised in the Holy Spirit he was not led from WITHIN.
But God is close to every man as Paul said in Acts 17. God was WITH HIM.Acts 10
Hi LU,
Read Jn 141f and you will see that Thomas is conversing with him when Jesus was explaining his unity with his Father.
‘If you had known me you would have known my Father also’
’He who has seen me has seen the Father’
’I am in the Father and the Father is in me’
Thomas learned well.
Jn 20.24
My Lord
AND
my God.
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