Firstborn of/over all creation

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,05:30)

Hi MB, Of course God does it by His Spirit. Ps 104 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

Nick

this could mean GIVE THE ORDERS AND CHRIST HIS FIRST BORN PUT IT IN MOTION AND ALL THE ANGELS WITH HIM ,

GOD THE GREAT ARCHITECT

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
You say

” Of course the Holy Spirit was IN Jesus, Nick. It was in him from the day he was born of Mary.”

Scripture doesn't but does that matter to you?
Why from his BIRTH?

Is not every man born under a curse?
Jb25
4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?

5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.

6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,08:51)

Hi MB, You say ”  Of course the Holy Spirit was IN Jesus, Nick.  It was in him from the day he was born of Mary.” Scripture doesn't but does that matter to you? Why from his BIRTH? Is not every man born under a curse? Jb25 4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman? 5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight. 6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?

nick

but if Christ is born under the curse he could not be the true Christ ,and so can not save himself nor any other

scriptures says no men can save any other from sin all have fall short of the glory of God ,

but Christ the son of God is not under the curse because he came down from heaven to fulfill the prophecy and to save all men from the curse ,he was given flesh through the virgin maiden surrogate mother ,men can do it why would God not able to do this simple action

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Was he not born of a woman or do you oppose scripture again?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,17:27)

Hi T, Was he not born of a woman or do you oppose scripture again?

The Man Jesus was born a Holy Man.
A Holy man has the Spirit of God in Him.
He knew things of God from a very young age.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 29 2014,13:12)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,17:27) Hi T, Was he not born of a woman or do you oppose scripture again? The Man Jesus was born a Holy Man. A Holy man has the Spirit of God in Him. He knew things of God from a very young age. wakeup.

w

so was Samuel

but what are the scriptures saying about him

and Moses

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,12:27)

Hi T, Was he not born of a woman or do you oppose scripture again?

N

yes Jesus was born from a virgin maiden ;surrogate mother does not change that ;just as all believed that Joseph was Jesus father

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2014,18:32)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 29 2014,13:12) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,17:27) Hi T, Was he not born of a woman or do you oppose scripture again? The Man Jesus was born a Holy Man. A Holy man has the Spirit of God in Him. He knew things of God from a very young age. wakeup. w so was Samuel but what are the scriptures saying about him and Moses

Samuel was not born of God.Born by the will of God.
He was born by the will of the flesh.
Moses also was born by the will of the flesh,just like we are.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU
You say,
” The Man Jesus was born a Holy Man.
A Holy man has the Spirit of God in Him.”

Really?
Presumption rules

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,18:51)

Hi WU You say, ” The Man Jesus was born a Holy Man. A Holy man has the Spirit of God in Him.” Really? Presumption rules

Have you got some other explanation?

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
What does scripture say
If it says nothing you should not make stuff up.

He was the natural son of God and his Father helped bring him up.[heb 12]

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,19:35)

Hi WU, What does scripture say If it says nothing you should not make stuff up. He was the natural son of God and his Father helped bring him up.[heb 12]

Was Jesus not a Holy man?

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,14:35)

Hi WU, What does scripture say If it says nothing you should not make stuff up. He was the natural son of God and his Father helped bring him up.[heb 12]

n

Quote

He was the natural son of God and his Father helped bring him up.[heb 12]

where in the book Of Hebrew does it say this

[Wakeup]

Anyone that does not believe that Jesus is Holy,
the spirit is not right in Him.
There are many Holy men; and yet Jesus is not Holy??
This I can not bear.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Are you holy?
It is the Spirit of God that makes Holy.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2014,00:37)

Hi WU, Are you holy? It is the Spirit of God that makes Holy.

N

you forgot my question ,

and all believers should be looking to become holy because God is holy ;

do you know what holy means Nick

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,00:27)

Hi T, Was he not born of a woman or do you oppose scripture again?

Sin entered by one MAN, Nick. Jesus wasn't the son of any MAN.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,02:35)

Hi WU, What does scripture say If it says nothing you should not make stuff up. He was the natural son of God and his Father helped bring him up.[heb 12]

Really Nick?

You mean like when the scripture says JESUS said certain words, and you PRESUME some “spirit of anointing” thing was speaking through him?

Did the SCRIPTURE say the Spirit was speaking through him at that time? If not, why do you ADD that to the scriptures?

“If it says nothing you should not make stuff up.”

[mikeboll64]

Wakeup,

You are right. Jesus was the HOLY one who was born of the Spirit of God.

He was holy from his earthly birth, and carried along by Spirit his entire life.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Was he not a man but a different creation?

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