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Hi MB,
Those words were understood by the saved who were not subject to confusion.But natural men need to be reminded of the work of the Spirit in and though him.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,04:34) Hi MB,
Those words were understood by the saved who were not subject to confusion.But natural men need to be reminded of the work of the Spirit in and though him.
common nick bla,bla,blaQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2014,21:30) That is not the meaning of anointed.
I've already showed you that it is, Nick……. from MANY DIFFERENT sources……… including James Strong.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2014,21:30) They were SET APART
Then hands were laid on them in ANOINTING
Yes,They were anointed by Holy Spirit (set apart from the rest as special, or holy), and then they were SYMBOLICALLY anointed by the laying on of hands. And if they poured oil on them, that would be another SYMBOLIC way of showing that they had been “set apart as holy”.
Nick, what about Aaron? What made him special enough to be God's High Priest? The fact that God set him apart as special? Or the fact some everyday oil was sprinkled on him?
Wakeup and I keep telling you that the smearing on of oil is but the SYMBOLIC demonstration of the real anointing – which was the “setting apart as special or holy”.
The word “christ” means “anointed one”. So any scripture that speaks about “Christ being born” means he was already the anointed one BEFORE he was born on earth.
Heb 1 says Jesus was also “anointed with the oil of gladness”. Does that mean he wasn't “the anointed one” UNTIL the “oil of gladness” was metaphorically poured on him?
And was that before or after he was anointed by Holy Spirit? Before of after he was anointed by perfumed oil by a couple of different women in the NT?
Can you see it yet? The fact that Holy Spirit came on him IN FULL at the Jordan doesn't mean he wasn't already God's anointed one.
And if the “oil of gladness” came on him AFTER the Jordan, it wouldn't mean he wasn't already God's anointed one when the oil of gladness was poured on him.
The pouring on of oil, or the Spirit in the form of a dove, is for show. The actual anointing (setting apart as holy) occurs before these symbolic actions.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,04:32) Hi t,
So how does the creation being done through the Spirit enable salvation??
Nickthis needs help ;it does not make sense to me ;
could or would you re spell this ;thanks
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2014,21:31) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2014,12:54) Hi GB,
John explained it in 1 Jn1
He saw the WORD and touched the WORD.
Jesus had BECOME the WORD by the anointing at the Jordan
Hi MB,
I have answered here.
The Word was made flesh in Jesus at the Jordan.
Answered what? You quoted Gene, but are talking to me.What did you answer with that one-liner? Surely not the 5 questions I've been begging you to answer.
Quote (Ed J @ May 27 2014,21:42) Hi Mike, The Bible says God created *ALONE* – that means with NO-ONE ELSE, no buts.
Yep. I know that, because I know God created me ALONE.But, did God do that THROUGH my parents? You betcha.
Quote (Ed J @ May 27 2014,21:44) God created all things by himself, wink wink, he really didn't
Ed,It is SCRIPTURE that says (multiple times) that God created all things through Jesus Christ.
And it is both scripture AND common sense that says God created me THROUGH my parents.
Quote (Ed J @ May 27 2014,21:45) God said there are no other gods, wink wink, there really are
Psalm 82
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
John 10
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken………
Ed, there is no doubt God called them gods. So the only question is: CAN SCRIPTURE BE BROKEN?
What did Jesus just say about that?
You simply need better discernment, Ed. You imagine contradictions that aren't there.
Quote (Ed J @ May 27 2014,21:46) Mike, your doctrine has more holes than swiss-cheeze
Yet after all this time, you haven't been able to show me even ONE of those holes………. only your own misunderstandings of Hebrew and Greek culture and language.Btw, the fact that you spell “cheese” with a “z” tells me that you've been eating too much of that “Squeeze Cheeze” crap.
Try the real stuff once in a while. That fake crap seems to be rotting your brain.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 27 2014,22:27) MikeB. 1.Do you believe that God needs some other person
to do the creating?2. You say God created a spokes man. Why is it that God
did not create all things as he created the spokesman?
Why *NEED* a spokesman; When God could create the
spokesman Himself?3. How did the spokesman create everything?
How did He do it?
Wakeup,You seem more confused about the things I actually believe than you are about what the scriptures actually teach.
1. No. God Himself, ALONE, created all things.
2. God DID create all things as He created the spokesman. He created the spokesman as the first of His works, and then created all the other things THROUGH that firstborn spokesman.
3. The spokesman didn't create anything at all. God is the only one who created. He did that THROUGH the Word/Spokesman/Firstborn/Only Begotten Son/Jesus/The Anointed One of God.
How do I know this? Because it is EXACTLY what the scriptures teach, Wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ May 28 2014,06:36) WUP THIS ACTION OF GOD TO USE HIS FIRST BORN OR CREATION IS SIMILAR TO GOD USING ADAM TO CREATED EVE
Brilliant point, Pierre.Ed and Wakeup, did you hear that?
Who created Eve? It was God, ALONE and BY HIMSELF, right?
But did He create Eve THROUGH, or BY MEANS OF Adam? YES. God USED Adam to create Eve. But it doesn't mean the one THROUGH WHOM God created Eve IS the one who actually created Eve.
Get it guys? He who creates is one (God), and he THROUGH WHOM the thing is created is another (in this case: Adam).
Hi MB,
Of course God does it by His Spirit.Ps 104
Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.Quote (terraricca @ May 28 2014,16:53) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,04:34) Hi MB,
Those words were understood by the saved who were not subject to confusion.But natural men need to be reminded of the work of the Spirit in and though him.
common nick bla,bla,bla
Pierre,Perhaps we are saved and Nick is not. I only say that because Nick said that the saved were not subject to confusion, and could understand this stuff.
And it seems like you and I understand it perfectly, while Nick keeps stumbling over his own confusion.
Hmmmm……………..
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2014,17:30) Hi MB,
Of course God does it by His Spirit.Ps 104
Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.
Absolutely, Nick.
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