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- May 28, 2014 at 3:12 am#384919mikeboll64Blocked
Quote (Ed J @ May 27 2014,20:00) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2014,10:05) Quote (Ed J @ May 27 2014,15:46) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2014,12:22) Well Ed, WHO created you?
Hi Mike,God created my spirit, my flesh cam from my parents.
Are you sure Ed?Send your dad out to the tool shed, and see how long it takes him to “create flesh”.
God ALONE created the heavens, the earth, the sea, and EVERYTHING IN THEM.
Malachi 2:10
Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us?God didn't just create your spirit, Ed. God ALONE is the ONLY one who actually created you. Were it not for God, you would not exist.
But God chose to do that THROUGH your parents. God making that choice does not equate your parents with your Creator.
He who creates is one, and anyone He decides to create THROUGH is another.
Hi Mike,God gave humans the power to pro-create after their kind.
And the spirit, which God gave me, came from God.
Okay Ed.I'm glad you're back and posting a little bit. But I won't get bogged down in any of your, “The grass is blue and the sky is green” games this time.
If YOU want to believe that God didn't create the entirety of Ed J, but only PARTS of Ed J, then that is your choice.
As for me, I am a creation of God Himself – every last bit of me.
May 28, 2014 at 3:18 am#384920mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2014,20:02) Hi MB,
When natural men do not use the word CHRIST when speaking of Jesus you wonder if they realise it could mean the ordinary man or the empowered ANOINTED man
Nick,“Jesus Christ” just means “Jesus, the anointed one”. And he was anointed (set apart as holy) long before he came into this world, and long before the Jordan.
Don't you have 5 questions waiting for you? Better get to answering them, don't you think?
May 28, 2014 at 3:30 am#384922NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
You say
“And he was anointed (set apart as holy)”That is not the meaning of anointed.
Acts 13
13 Now there were at Antioch, in the church that was there, prophets and teachers: Barnabas, and Simeon who was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 While they were ministering to the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” 3 Then, when they had fasted and prayed and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.”They were SET APART
Then hands were laid on them in ANOINTINGMay 28, 2014 at 3:31 am#384923NickHassanParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2014,12:54) Hi GB,
John explained it in 1 Jn1
He saw the WORD and touched the WORD.
Jesus had BECOME the WORD by the anointing at the Jordan
Hi MB,
I have answered here.
The Word was made flesh in Jesus at the Jordan.May 28, 2014 at 3:42 am#384930Ed JParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2014,14:08) Quote (Ed J @ May 27 2014,19:56) Hi Mike, Then you agree that adding the word 'OTHER' to the verse you quoted is spurious correct?
Not at all, Ed.When it says God created EVERYTHING in heaven, does it mean God created HIMSELF as well? Or did He create all the OTHER things in heaven…….. BESIDES Himself?
Same thing here. We know that God didn't create Jesus THROUGH Jesus, so it is implied that God created all OTHER things (BESIDES Jesus himself) through Jesus.
Paul makes the point in 1 Cor 15:27, Ed. He says God placed EVERYTHING under Jesus, but then adds a note for people who might not be that smart, and says, Now when it says EVERYTHING, it is OBVIOUS it doesn't mean God placed HIMSELF under Jesus as well.
In other words, God placed all OTHER things under Jesus.
Hi Mike,The Bible says God created *ALONE* – that means with NO-ONE ELSE, no buts.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 28, 2014 at 3:44 am#384931Ed JParticipantGod created all things by himself, wink wink, he really didn't
May 28, 2014 at 3:45 am#384932Ed JParticipantGod said there are no other gods, wink wink, there really are
May 28, 2014 at 3:46 am#384933Ed JParticipantMike, your doctrine has more holes than swiss-cheeze
May 28, 2014 at 4:27 am#384937WakeupParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2014,14:18) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2014,20:02) Hi MB,
When natural men do not use the word CHRIST when speaking of Jesus you wonder if they realise it could mean the ordinary man or the empowered ANOINTED man
Nick,“Jesus Christ” just means “Jesus, the anointed one”. And he was anointed (set apart as holy) long before he came into this world, and long before the Jordan.
Don't you have 5 questions waiting for you? Better get to answering them, don't you think?
MikeB.1.Do you believe that God needs some other person
to do the creating?2. You say God created a spokes man. Why is it that God
did not create all things as he created the spokesman?
Why *NEED* a spokesman; When God could create the
spokesman Himself?3. How did the spokesman create everything?
How did He do it?Please amswer.
wakeup.
May 28, 2014 at 12:36 pm#385058terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 28 2014,10:27) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2014,14:18) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2014,20:02) Hi MB,
When natural men do not use the word CHRIST when speaking of Jesus you wonder if they realise it could mean the ordinary man or the empowered ANOINTED man
Nick,“Jesus Christ” just means “Jesus, the anointed one”. And he was anointed (set apart as holy) long before he came into this world, and long before the Jordan.
Don't you have 5 questions waiting for you? Better get to answering them, don't you think?
MikeB.1.Do you believe that God needs some other person
to do the creating?2. You say God created a spokes man. Why is it that God
did not create all things as he created the spokesman?
Why *NEED* a spokesman; When God could create the
spokesman Himself?3. How did the spokesman create everything?
How did He do it?Please amswer.
wakeup.
WUPTHIS ACTION OF GOD TO USE HIS FIRST BORN OR CREATION IS SIMILAR TO GOD USING ADAM TO CREATED EVE ; READ VERY CAREFULLY ;PROVERB 8 ;22-31 AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IT SAYS AND MEANS AND WHO IS WHO AND DOING WHAT ; READ IT OVER AND OVER UNTIL YOU HAVE IT FULLY UNDERSTOOD IT ;
AND YOU WILL SEE THAT GOD'S WISDOM BY USING HIS SON TO CREATE ALL THING WAS THE MOST WONDERFUL THING ,BECAUSE OF IT WE NOW ARE SAVED ,
ADAM COULD HAVE SAVE US IF HE WOULD HAVE NOT SIN , BUT HE JOINED HIS WIFE THE ONE THAT CAME OUT OF HIM ;
THE SON OF GOD DID NOT DO THAT EVEN THOUGH SATAN ONE OF THE SONS OF GOD THAT WAS CREATED THROUGH HIM DID SIN ,THE SON OF GOD STAID CLEAN ,AND SO WAS REDEMPTION POSSIBLE FOR ALL CREATION BECAUSE ALL OF CREATION CAME TO EXISTENCE THROUGH HIM AND FOR HIM ,
PAUL UNDERSTOOD THOSE SCRIPTURES VERY WELL.
May 28, 2014 at 3:03 pm#385073WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ May 28 2014,23:36) Quote (Wakeup @ May 28 2014,10:27) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2014,14:18) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2014,20:02) Hi MB,
When natural men do not use the word CHRIST when speaking of Jesus you wonder if they realise it could mean the ordinary man or the empowered ANOINTED man
Nick,“Jesus Christ” just means “Jesus, the anointed one”. And he was anointed (set apart as holy) long before he came into this world, and long before the Jordan.
Don't you have 5 questions waiting for you? Better get to answering them, don't you think?
MikeB.1.Do you believe that God needs some other person
to do the creating?2. You say God created a spokes man. Why is it that God
did not create all things as he created the spokesman?
Why *NEED* a spokesman; When God could create the
spokesman Himself?3. How did the spokesman create everything?
How did He do it?Please amswer.
wakeup.
WUPTHIS ACTION OF GOD TO USE HIS FIRST BORN OR CREATION IS SIMILAR TO GOD USING ADAM TO CREATED EVE ; READ VERY CAREFULLY ;PROVERB 8 ;22-31 AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IT SAYS AND MEANS AND WHO IS WHO AND DOING WHAT ; READ IT OVER AND OVER UNTIL YOU HAVE IT FULLY UNDERSTOOD IT ;
AND YOU WILL SEE THAT GOD'S WISDOM BY USING HIS SON TO CREATE ALL THING WAS THE MOST WONDERFUL THING ,BECAUSE OF IT WE NOW ARE SAVED ,
ADAM COULD HAVE SAVE US IF HE WOULD HAVE NOT SIN , BUT HE JOINED HIS WIFE THE ONE THAT CAME OUT OF HIM ;
THE SON OF GOD DID NOT DO THAT EVEN THOUGH SATAN ONE OF THE SONS OF GOD THAT WAS CREATED THROUGH HIM DID SIN ,THE SON OF GOD STAID CLEAN ,AND SO WAS REDEMPTION POSSIBLE FOR ALL CREATION BECAUSE ALL OF CREATION CAME TO EXISTENCE THROUGH HIM AND FOR HIM ,
PAUL UNDERSTOOD THOSE SCRIPTURES VERY WELL.
That is not the answer to my question.1. If God created the spokesman by Himself;
Why did he not create all things by Himself?2. How did the spokesman create all things?
wakeup.
May 28, 2014 at 5:17 pm#385079terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 28 2014,21:03) Quote (terraricca @ May 28 2014,23:36) Quote (Wakeup @ May 28 2014,10:27) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2014,14:18) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2014,20:02) Hi MB,
When natural men do not use the word CHRIST when speaking of Jesus you wonder if they realise it could mean the ordinary man or the empowered ANOINTED man
Nick,“Jesus Christ” just means “Jesus, the anointed one”. And he was anointed (set apart as holy) long before he came into this world, and long before the Jordan.
Don't you have 5 questions waiting for you? Better get to answering them, don't you think?
MikeB.1.Do you believe that God needs some other person
to do the creating?2. You say God created a spokes man. Why is it that God
did not create all things as he created the spokesman?
Why *NEED* a spokesman; When God could create the
spokesman Himself?3. How did the spokesman create everything?
How did He do it?Please amswer.
wakeup.
WUPTHIS ACTION OF GOD TO USE HIS FIRST BORN OR CREATION IS SIMILAR TO GOD USING ADAM TO CREATED EVE ; READ VERY CAREFULLY ;PROVERB 8 ;22-31 AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IT SAYS AND MEANS AND WHO IS WHO AND DOING WHAT ; READ IT OVER AND OVER UNTIL YOU HAVE IT FULLY UNDERSTOOD IT ;
AND YOU WILL SEE THAT GOD'S WISDOM BY USING HIS SON TO CREATE ALL THING WAS THE MOST WONDERFUL THING ,BECAUSE OF IT WE NOW ARE SAVED ,
ADAM COULD HAVE SAVE US IF HE WOULD HAVE NOT SIN , BUT HE JOINED HIS WIFE THE ONE THAT CAME OUT OF HIM ;
THE SON OF GOD DID NOT DO THAT EVEN THOUGH SATAN ONE OF THE SONS OF GOD THAT WAS CREATED THROUGH HIM DID SIN ,THE SON OF GOD STAID CLEAN ,AND SO WAS REDEMPTION POSSIBLE FOR ALL CREATION BECAUSE ALL OF CREATION CAME TO EXISTENCE THROUGH HIM AND FOR HIM ,
PAUL UNDERSTOOD THOSE SCRIPTURES VERY WELL.
That is not the answer to my question.1. If God created the spokesman by Himself;
Why did he not create all things by Himself?2. How did the spokesman create all things?
wakeup.
wupread care fully what i have written ,I have answered your question but it seems you do not like God's way of operation
May 28, 2014 at 9:26 pm#385127NickHassanParticipantHi T,
“AND YOU WILL SEE THAT GOD'S WISDOM BY USING HIS SON TO CREATE ALL THING WAS THE MOST WONDERFUL THING ,BECAUSE OF IT WE NOW ARE SAVED ,ADAM COULD HAVE SAVE US IF HE WOULD HAVE NOT SIN , BUT HE JOINED HIS WIFE THE ONE THAT CAME OUT OF HIM ;
THE SON OF GOD DID NOT DO THAT EVEN THOUGH SATAN ONE OF THE SONS OF GOD THAT WAS CREATED THROUGH HIM DID SIN ,THE SON OF GOD STAID CLEAN ,AND SO WAS REDEMPTION POSSIBLE FOR ALL CREATION BECAUSE ALL OF CREATION CAME TO EXISTENCE THROUGH HIM AND FOR HIM ,””
What does this mean?
May 28, 2014 at 9:35 pm#385135terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,03:26) Hi T,
“AND YOU WILL SEE THAT GOD'S WISDOM BY USING HIS SON TO CREATE ALL THING WAS THE MOST WONDERFUL THING ,BECAUSE OF IT WE NOW ARE SAVED ,ADAM COULD HAVE SAVE US IF HE WOULD HAVE NOT SIN , BUT HE JOINED HIS WIFE THE ONE THAT CAME OUT OF HIM ;
THE SON OF GOD DID NOT DO THAT EVEN THOUGH SATAN ONE OF THE SONS OF GOD THAT WAS CREATED THROUGH HIM DID SIN ,THE SON OF GOD STAID CLEAN ,AND SO WAS REDEMPTION POSSIBLE FOR ALL CREATION BECAUSE ALL OF CREATION CAME TO EXISTENCE THROUGH HIM AND FOR HIM ,””
What does this mean?
NICKcan you not read what i said
May 28, 2014 at 9:37 pm#385138NickHassanParticipantHi T,
Yes but it only makes sense to youMay 28, 2014 at 9:38 pm#385140terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,03:37) Hi T,
Yes but it only makes sense to you
Nickyou do know the scriptures do you
May 28, 2014 at 9:52 pm#385147NickHassanParticipantHi T,
I know a few.May 28, 2014 at 10:29 pm#385179terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,03:52) Hi T,
I know a few.
nICKGOOD THEN YOU CAN OR SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING
May 28, 2014 at 10:32 pm#385180NickHassanParticipantHi t,
So how does the creation being done through the Spirit enable salvation??May 28, 2014 at 10:32 pm#385181mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2014,20:02) Hi MB,
When natural men do not use the word CHRIST when speaking of Jesus you wonder if they realise it could mean the ordinary man or the empowered ANOINTED man
He is many times called JUST “Jesus” by the writers of scripture – even after the Jordan, Nick. When he is called just “Jesus”, are you confused? Or do you still recognize that they are talking about the Jesus who was anointed (set apart as holy by God and sent into this world)? - AuthorPosts
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